Fire Deboer Part 2

[WTFetus]

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[hohosaregood]

I think it's crazy that firing Deboer is considered as an irrational and impatient fan's take. If anything, the winning streak was the anomaly and we're just regressing back to the mean. The underlying number certainly backs up the take that we're actually bad.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

My biggest issue with the coaching is the stubbornness. It's normal for coaches to be this way but it still gets under my skin. This team is capable of playing a sound and disciplined structured defense but doesn't with regularity. Is anything done to even voice that concern? No. The other thing is a team with Burns and Karlsson at the points in the attacking zone never sees either of them below the faceoff circles to help generate offense unless they have the puck or are pinching for the puck. This team should be having a forward at the point a lot because they should be having their best offensive players trying to sneak in back door or get open in the slot area but they rarely do that. It's enraging how they overutilize them in one aspect and completely underutilize them in others. Burns is at his best when he has the puck on his stick in the slot area. Karlsson is at his best with the puck in the faceoff area at evens at least. How often does this team get them the puck in those areas? That's on coaching.

 

[Bowie22]

"Can't fire him unless we lose 10 games in a row."

-Bud

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Just saying, Jerry Jones has not fired Garrett yet which is more surprising to me than DW not firing PDB.

Till the team is in sniffing distance of the playoffs, PDB will not be fired. I think the team needs to be 15+ points out of the 3rd place in the Pacific by the All Star Game for anything to happen.

I think we need a full refresh after this year though. Get rid of both DW and PDB.

 

[Bowie22]

Ottawa should be the only ones okay with our performance thus far.

Isn't DW an Ottawa native?

 

[Sandisfan]

Fee Fee Fi Foe Pete Deboar has got to go!
Fee Fee Fi Foe Pete Deboar has got to go!
Fee Fee Fi Foe Pete Deboar has got to go!

 

[Barrie22]

Just saying, Jerry Jones has not fired Garrett yet which is more surprising to me than DW not firing PDB.

Till the team is in sniffing distance of the playoffs, PDB will not be fired. I think the team needs to be 15+ points out of the 3rd place in the Pacific by the All Star Game for anything to happen.

I think we need a full refresh after this year though. Get rid of both DW and PDB.

Didnt the cowboys basically say this week that they will be firing him in the offseason? So they have basically said this is a lost season already.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Didnt the cowboys basically say this week that they will be firing him in the offseason? So they have basically said this is a lost season already.

I don't recall him saying that. I just remember Jones saying that he sees little to gain by firing Garrett mid-season.

Though their situation, while bad, is still better than us because at 6-7 the Cowboys are still winning the division. I am pretty sure that had the Cowboys not been leading the division, Jones would have fired Garrett.

We are in a slightly worse situation because while our division sucks, we are not in playoff contention as things stand right now. Though given how long the NHL season is, it could easily change in another 10-15 games (or even less).

 

[Dicdonya]

My biggest issue with the coaching is the stubbornness. It's normal for coaches to be this way but it still gets under my skin. This team is capable of playing a sound and disciplined structured defense but doesn't with regularity. Is anything done to even voice that concern? No. The other thing is a team with Burns and Karlsson at the points in the attacking zone never sees either of them below the faceoff circles to help generate offense unless they have the puck or are pinching for the puck. This team should be having a forward at the point a lot because they should be having their best offensive players trying to sneak in back door or get open in the slot area but they rarely do that. It's enraging how they overutilize them in one aspect and completely underutilize them in others. Burns is at his best when he has the puck on his stick in the slot area. Karlsson is at his best with the puck in the faceoff area at evens at least. How often does this team get them the puck in those areas? That's on coaching.

I agree so much with this.

The thing that is extra sad though, is that in the rare occasions you actually do see Karlsson or Burns carry the puck lower than the point, no one does anything to actually take advantage of that because its super out of character and our players are not coached or allowed to actually be creative. So when someone gets creative more often then not it wasted effort.

Watching the chemistry and creativity of the Barkov line last night just hammers the point home. They are making cross ice, behind the back, no look, etc passes often, and moving all over the offensive zone trying to open up lanes. The other thing is they actually take shots from all the place, not just from the points or faceoff dots. They try to stick handle to the middle etc.

I cant even think of the last time I saw someone like Kane, Hertl, Meier etc, take the puck from the boards, juke one guy and crash the net for a shot. Its always juke a defender only to send the puck up the boards, to someone else who will try to do the same thing, and then one guy will peel towards the net to try to screen/tip the puck that is shot from the point, which just gets blocked, and puts our forwards behind the play defensively.

 

[Paka Ono]

You know it's bad then the thread capped out!

I said it after Week 1, and still holding to it. This team doesn't make the playoffs without a coaching change.

 

[Barrie22]

You know it's bad then the thread capped out!

I said it after Week 1, and still holding to it. This team doesn't make the playoffs without a coaching change.

Well it is a thread that was started over 1 year ago.

 

[Lebanezer]

Well it is a thread that was started over 1 year ago.

Only 8 months, and that’s because the first one got locked.

 

[Barrie22]

Only 8 months, and that’s because the first one got locked.

Aha i thought it was the one that was started in october/november last year that bumped during the playoffs lol.

 

[SJSharksfan39]

Well it is a thread that was started over 1 year ago.

I'm not sure if that's sad commentary on the team or not.

 

[Levie]

Only 8 months, and that’s because the first one got locked.

Pretty sure the one before this wasn't the first one. I think I started the first after the oilers series, then another one popped up after the Vegas series they lost then another the following year.

Big surprise I was pissed that donskoi was benched in the oilers series...

 

[TheGooooch]

Fire him...and fire his boss

 

[LeeIFBB]

Hey tan man, listen to the fans and act on a plan to fire the bald man before another season is in the can for a franchise that’s quickly becoming an also ran.

 

[Pavelski2112]

Hey tan man, listen to the fans and act on a plan to fire the bald man before the season’s in the can.

inb4 Kurz comes in and tells us how stupid we all are

 

[Negatively Positive]

Calgary undefeated since they got rid of Peters. Just saying.

Pittsburgh, LA, St. Louis are all teams who have won cups in the last decade after firing their coach during the season. Why is DW so loyal to coaches? Deboer isn't a cup winning future hall of fame coach. He's above average but nothing special. Even multi cup winning coaches get fired multiple times in their careers. Almost every team gets a boost with a new coach even if it's short term and this team needs a shot in the arm right now.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Calgary undefeated since they got rid of Peters. Just saying.

Pittsburgh, LA, St. Louis are all teams who have won cups in the last decade after firing their coach during the season. Why is DW so loyal to coaches? Deboer isn't a cup winning future hall of fame coach. He's above average but nothing special. Even multi cup winning coaches get fired multiple times in their careers. Almost every team gets a boost with a new coach even if it's short term and this team needs a shot in the arm right now.

The answer to your question is money.

 

[Mafoofoo]

inb4 Kurz comes in and tells us how stupid we all are

well you gotta remember we’re just dumb fans with no idea how hockey works

 

[14ari13]

My biggest issue with the coaching is the stubbornness. It's normal for coaches to be this way but it still gets under my skin. This team is capable of playing a sound and disciplined structured defense but doesn't with regularity. Is anything done to even voice that concern? No. The other thing is a team with Burns and Karlsson at the points in the attacking zone never sees either of them below the faceoff circles to help generate offense unless they have the puck or are pinching for the puck. This team should be having a forward at the point a lot because they should be having their best offensive players trying to sneak in back door or get open in the slot area but they rarely do that. It's enraging how they overutilize them in one aspect and completely underutilize them in others. Burns is at his best when he has the puck on his stick in the slot area. Karlsson is at his best with the puck in the faceoff area at evens at least. How often does this team get them the puck in those areas? That's on coaching.

Every coach is stubborn.

I think your goalie is a bigger problem than the coach.

 

[themelkman]

Every coach is stubborn.

I think your goalie is a bigger problem than the coach.

Well thats not true. Jones isnt great but he would be just fine if the team was playing well and not forcing him to make amazing saves