buchnevich is 4 years older and has been playing pro hockey for what 6 years now? there are very few 19 years olds that can keep up with the pace of the league over 82 games. even laine takes shifts at a time off
Player Discussion Filip Chytil
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buchnevich is 4 years older and has been playing pro hockey for what 6 years now? there are very few 19 years olds that can keep up with the pace of the league over 82 games. even laine takes shifts at a time off
The only U20 players who are scoring at a higher rate than him in the NHL are Hischier (drafted 1st overall), Tkachuk (4th), Dahlin (1st), Kotkaniemi (3rd), Svechnikov (2nd), and Heiskanen (3rd). So he's the most productive teenager in the NHL that was drafted outside of the top 4. If that's not good enough for you from a guy that was drafted 21st overall...
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It's amazing the mental gymnastics/parkour that come out to defend the golden child/fan-favorite prospect
I personally think Chytil will be a great player for us... but... BUT... HIS LACK OF EFFORT ON PLAYS SHOULD BE DEEMED UNACCEPTABLE.
There aren't tiers to these standards.. Quinn has made that evident.
I personally think Chytil will be a great player for us... but... BUT... HIS LACK OF EFFORT ON PLAYS SHOULD BE DEEMED UNACCEPTABLE.
There aren't tiers to these standards.. Quinn has made that evident.
This makes no sense in the context of this conversation.
He had to half ass it on this one particular play bc it's an 82 game season? What?
Sometimes people reach way too far and way too hard to make excuses instead of admitting that a player (like every player, ever) messed up. I think you are doing that here
Laine is also a veritable connoisseur of taking plays off. When you make that comparison here, it suggests that Laine rarely takes plays off.
He's pretty much the worst young player you could have highlighted to make this point.
Then you get something like this which is wrongon so many levels
1) He should be held accountable if there is a play he significantly botches because of lack of effort, I agree.
2) Being 19 is not an excuse for his lazy play on that icing, I agree
But you are putting this forth as if he is on the same plane as Buch in terms of making lazy plays.
Buch has now had years of doing this. He messed up multiple times. Has CHytil done this multiple times? If so then where have you been to comment on it?
If it was just this game that stood out to you/this play that stood out to you, then it's wrong and silly to claim he is not being treated the same as Buch.
Again, Buch had mult screw ups before suffering the consequences. He also has a history.
Chytil has no history and has not repeatedly been making lazy plays.
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So he sucks at...everything?
Great post, would read again.
Sike, it actually gave me brain damage.
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Your brain damage is apparent
He has flaws in his game that go unnoticed because he's 19 and the golden child. We haven't have one of these since....
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You cannot have different tiers of standards for players. Something is wrong or its not.
As Quinn said, he can make mistakes but what's the intention? Quinn took notice and demoted him to the 4th line. Hopefully it's enough and doesn't become a theme.
I said this already. Are you just restating it or did you not realize I said it? Or are you refusing to understand the following:
"Buch has now had years of doing this. He messed up multiple times. Has CHytil done this multiple times? If so then where have you been to comment on it?
If it was just this game that stood out to you/this play that stood out to you, then it's wrong and silly to claim he is not being treated the same as Buch.
Again, Buch had mult screw ups before suffering the consequences. He also has a history.
Chytil has no history and has not repeatedly been making lazy plays."
In other words, if you give Buch 4 chances before scratching him and you give Chytil one chance then it is not equitable. Why would you want it to not be equitable? That undermines everything. Everything we are seeing suggests that scratching Chytl in this instance would NOT be equitable to what happened with Buch.
FireGerardGallant
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People are really ****ing on one of the most promising players we have had in years.
Can people not enjoy anything??
Can people not enjoy anything??
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I'd hold Chytil to similar standards since he's a promising part of our future. Developing good habits. Don't let it get out of hand.
He was moved to the 4th line like Buch was. Hopefully it doesn't get to scratching him.
I’d love to see video of this “lazy” Play.
You know he may have no been skating hard to beat out the icing because it’s possible that there was no way that he’d beat it out?
You know he may have no been skating hard to beat out the icing because it’s possible that there was no way that he’d beat it out?
Exactly
Plus Chytil WAS scratched? And I assume Quinn will do so again (or put him on the 4th line like he also has done) if he thought his effort isn't there. Chytil is not getting special treatment.
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Not like he scores point per game in the Juniors against kids not old enough to buy a beer. That would be an achievement. But playing regularly in the NHL at 19 is just not the same. If only he was running up stats in the BCHL.
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Unfortunately, this is something that can’t be underestimated.
We love it when the kids beat up the competition at lower levels, but man do we take that slack away quickly as they turn pro.
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Can't criticize or talk about any concerns for the 19 year old golden child. He's a perfect prospect and 19. Have I mentioned he's 19. Just turned 19.
I see like a Jagr and Malkin but better and 19.
P.S. - I like Chytil. I think he could be a great player. I also see the flaws in his game; that if not corrected, he will not turn in to what we hope
I see like a Jagr and Malkin but better and 19.
P.S. - I like Chytil. I think he could be a great player. I also see the flaws in his game; that if not corrected, he will not turn in to what we hope
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Some posters really enjoy to shit on some promising players to get some fame. It's really sad.
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I was reading in the Kravtsov thread and it made me think how impressive Chytil has been this year. He has flashed brilliance and basically been a slightly above average third liner all year as a 19 year old. And he’s always smiling or at least cool-looking when I see him on the bench. I may be projecting but I see a kid with things under control. So impressive. And every game he makes an impressive play. Not consistent and not dominant. But he is gutting it out and shining through even in the dog days. Really, I’m a fan.
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or objective and honest
What's sad is the echo chamber and hive mind around here. Dissenting opinion and criticism is not allowed.
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