Fedorov 1993-1994 vs. Malkin 2011-2012

[Khomutov]

Who had the better season?

Fedorov

82 games, 56 goals, 64 assists, 120 points.(1.46 PPG), +48. Won the Hart, Selke, Lindsay. 3rd in goals and 2nd in points.

Malkin

75 games, 50 goals, 59 assists, 109 points (1.45 PPG), +18. Won the Hart, Art Ross and Pearson. 2nd in goals.

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[Nadal On Clay]

Malkin takes it just by the fact that scoring in 2012 was way below scoring in 1994. Also, Malkin had by far the worst teammates between the 2 (Sid played only 22 games that season).

 

[blundluntman]

I'll give Malkin the edge offensively for that season but Fedorov winning the selke that year is too much to pass up imo.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

According to hockey-reference.com’s adjusting scoring (which is imperfect, but usually a decent ballpark estimate), Malkin is ahead 122-109 in adjusted points. Both led their team in scoring by essentially the same margin (27-28 points). But Fedorov won the Selke trophy, while Malkin was nothing special defensively. I’d easily trade those 13 extra points for Selke caliber defensive play.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Malkin but it's close.

 

[Claypool]

Fedorov AINEC.

 

[JackSlater]

Comfortably Fedorov. Slightly lesser offensive season with legitimate Selke calibre defence.

 

[Plural]

According to hockey-reference.com’s adjusting scoring (which is imperfect, but usually a decent ballpark estimate), Malkin is ahead 122-109 in adjusted points. Both led their team in scoring by essentially the same margin (27-28 points). But Fedorov won the Selke trophy, while Malkin was nothing special defensively. I’d easily trade those 13 extra points for Selke caliber defensive play.

Yup. Malkin is better player than Fedorov but the best season goes to Sergei. Equally good goal-scorer. Marginally worse overall offensive input and miles better overall game. Fedorov's season might just be the greatest NHL season by any Russian/Soviet player ever.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Yup. Malkin is better player than Fedorov but the best season goes to Sergei. Equally good goal-scorer. Marginally worse overall offensive input and miles better overall game. Fedorov's season might just be the greatest NHL season by any Russian/Soviet player ever.

Ovechkin 07/08 is easily better.

 

[Plural]

Ovechkin 07/08 is easily better.

It's probably better but it's not easily.

 

[bathdog]

Really close. Lean Fedorov.

 

[Khomutov]

I voted for Fedorov. It's crazy to think that without a still great Gretzky, he could won the Art Ross too. Was also just four goals behind Bure, who was the leading goal scorer. Very impressive.

 

[BonAppleTea]

It's probably better but it's not easily.

Kind of easily imo. 65 goals, only 8 points less in a lower scoring era and obviously Rocket, Hart, Art ross, Lindsay. 43 points to the second best scorer on the team which was the rookie Bäckström.
And just look at Fedorovs team... jesus christ. While some of them weren't really in their prime it still wasn't a collection of scrubs in any way.

 

[JackSlater]

This thread demonstrates that plenty of people don't grasp how good Fedorov was defensively. Just slightly below Bergeron defensively but well above every other Selke winner in the last 10 years, while finishing second in scoring and third in goals. None of Malkin, Ovechkin or Crosby blows that season away even at peak.

 

[Newsworthy]

I went Fedorov but it's close.

 

[Newsworthy]

I say Fedorov but it's close

 

[Plural]

This thread demonstrates that plenty of people don't grasp how good Fedorov was defensively. Just slightly below Bergeron defensively but well above every other Selke winner in the last 10 years, while finishing second in scoring and third in goals. None of Malkin, Ovechkin or Crosby blows that season away even at peak.

His skating and positioning was perfect. Unreal to watch really. It felt like he was never out of position. He basically controlled the ice similarly as EK does with his skating, yet Feds was stronger and bigger. And played C. That one peak season is arguably better than OV's 65 goal season and that's saying a lot.

 

[ScaredStreit]

I'm a huge Malkin fan and he was awesome that year....but Fedorov's 94 season is probably the best all around player I've ever seen play.

 

[tony d]

Fedorov's 93-94 season was one of the best hockey seasons I've ever seen from any player. Voted for that 1.

 

[authentic]

This thread demonstrates that plenty of people don't grasp how good Fedorov was defensively. Just slightly below Bergeron defensively but well above every other Selke winner in the last 10 years, while finishing second in scoring and third in goals. None of Malkin, Ovechkin or Crosby blows that season away even at peak.

So he's just below Bergeron, but well above Datsyuk? I don't believe so, but he was probably atleast a bit better defensively. It would be interesting if possession stats existed back then to see how well he would've done.

I personally believe Fedorov at his best, that season and a few playoff runs, was as dominant as any forward since...perhaps even more so. It's a shame he never had more seasons of that caliber, because I believe he had the talent to do so.

 

[bobbyking]

According to hockey-reference.com’s adjusting scoring (which is imperfect, but usually a decent ballpark estimate), Malkin is ahead 122-109 in adjusted points. Both led their team in scoring by essentially the same margin (27-28 points). But Fedorov won the Selke trophy, while Malkin was nothing special defensively. I’d easily trade those 13 extra points for Selke caliber defensive play.

Malkin also played 7 less games

 

[JackSlater]

So he's just below Bergeron, but well above Datsyuk? I don't believe so, but he was probably atleast a bit better defensively. It would be interesting if possession stats existed back then to see how well he would've done.

I personally believe Fedorov at his best, that season and a few playoff runs, was as dominant as any forward since...perhaps even more so. It's a shame he never had more seasons of that caliber, because I believe he had the talent to do so.

Yes, well above Datsyuk defensively whether you believe that or not. Datsyuk was overrated defensively, while Fedorov is actually underrated if anything in that regard.

 

[CanadienShark]

Fedorov for me.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

Malkin also played 7 less games

Yes and that’s a bad thing. A player doesn’t contribute to his team when he’s injured.

 

[authentic]

Yes, well above Datsyuk defensively whether you believe that or not. Datsyuk was overrated defensively, while Fedorov is actually underrated if anything in that regard.

Oh so it's a fact now because JackSlater said so. You severely underrate peak Datsyuk, Bergeron was/is better defensively but in no way is it by far.