F Maddox Dagenais - Quinte Red Devils U16 AAA, OMHA U16 (2026 Draft)

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Is he related to the legendary Pierre Dagenais?

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Why’d he play in Ontario this year? That Quinte team looks like they have a lot of kids from far away
 

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Dagenais is the #1 ranked prospect for the QMJHL Draft.

 

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Dagenais is the #1 ranked prospect for the QMJHL Draft.

Does he have any intention of playing in the QMJHL? Looks like he was taken fairly high in the USHL draft last night.
 

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Does he have any intention of playing in the QMJHL? Looks like he was taken fairly high in the USHL draft last night.

Puck Preps say it's 80% no QMJHL. I guess it might depend which team drafts him and if they can convince him and his family.

As of now, the draft order is :

1. Cape Breton
2. Val d'Or
3. Val d'Or
4. Quebec
5. Saint John
 

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Puck Preps say it's 80% no QMJHL. I guess it might depend which team drafts him and if they can convince him and his family.

As of now, the draft order is :

1. Cape Breton
2. Val d'Or
3. Val d'Or
4. Quebec
5. Saint John
It wouldn't shock me if he was only willing to report to Quebec.
 

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Puck Preps say it's 80% no QMJHL. I guess it might depend which team drafts him and if they can convince him and his family.

As of now, the draft order is :

1. Cape Breton
2. Val d'Or
3. Val d'Or
4. Quebec
5. Saint John
Lalancette reported that he intends to play Ontario Jr. A next year, which could be a smokescreen. However, if we assume that the players selected in the early rounds of the USHL draft are going NCAA (Dagenais, Chartrand, Dube, Rozzi), plus Lawrence who is already USHL tendered, plus O'Donnell who chose the OHL route, plus some of the other Quebec kids rumored to be leaning NCAA (Taillefer, Yared), this might be the least talented draft class (to actually play in the league) I can recall since I've been following the QMJHL.
 

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Lalancette reported that he intends to play Ontario Jr. A next year, which could be a smokescreen. However, if we assume that the players selected in the early rounds of the USHL draft are going NCAA (Dagenais, Chartrand, Dube, Rozzi), plus Lawrence who is already USHL tendered, plus O'Donnell who chose the OHL route, plus some of the other Quebec kids rumored to be leaning NCAA (Taillefer, Yared), this might be the least talented draft class (to actually play in the league) I can recall since I've been following the QMJHL.
NCAA leaning is a thing most years in the QMJHL. There are more than a few of these kids who are looking at their options specifically to avoid being in Cape Breton (who would likely trade them midseason) or Val D'Or. This is very common when teams like CB, Val D'Or and Baie-Comeau have high picks.
 
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NCAA leaning is a thing most years in the QMJHL. There are more than a few of these kids who are looking at their options specifically to avoid being in Cape Breton (who would likely trade them midseason) or Val D'Or. This is very common when teams like CB, Val D'Or and Baie-Comeau have high picks.
Yes, I'm quite aware of that being from Cape Breton, but I do think NCAA interest is becoming more prevalent (plus I don't think this is a particularly strong draft to begin with). I don't think some of these kids will wait around for a trade until they get the team of their choice; they'll just stick to the USA route.
 

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Yes, I'm quite aware of that being from Cape Breton, but I do think NCAA interest is becoming more prevalent (plus I don't think this is a particularly strong draft to begin with). I don't think some of these kids will wait around for a trade until they get the team of their choice; they'll just stick to the USA route.
From NB, most of the high level kids that aren't from Moncton end up moving away to play hockey which makes them more likely to look at other options.

Quebec has always had LSL which is notorious from preparing kids to have the NCAA option

On top of that, there are heavy politics in midget within the region that can cause kids who should be playing a higher level (or more) to look at other options to get the level of competition they need.

On the flip side of the spectrum, Val D'Or is both a remote location and has been out of the second round of the playoffs once in the last 9 years. Cape Breton is also remote and just made it out of the 2nd round for the first time in almost 20 years.
 

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Lalancette reported that he intends to play Ontario Jr. A next year, which could be a smokescreen. However, if we assume that the players selected in the early rounds of the USHL draft are going NCAA (Dagenais, Chartrand, Dube, Rozzi), plus Lawrence who is already USHL tendered, plus O'Donnell who chose the OHL route, plus some of the other Quebec kids rumored to be leaning NCAA (Taillefer, Yared), this might be the least talented draft class (to actually play in the league) I can recall since I've been following the QMJHL.

Leroux says Dagenais should have been in the OHL Draft because he lives in Ontario but he had the choice of the Q because his father played in the league. Since he actually chose the Q Draft, Jr. A might actually be smokescreen like you're saying.

 

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From NB, most of the high level kids that aren't from Moncton end up moving away to play hockey which makes them more likely to look at other options.

Quebec has always had LSL which is notorious from preparing kids to have the NCAA option

On top of that, there are heavy politics in midget within the region that can cause kids who should be playing a higher level (or more) to look at other options to get the level of competition they need.

On the flip side of the spectrum, Val D'Or is both a remote location and has been out of the second round of the playoffs once in the last 9 years. Cape Breton is also remote and just made it out of the 2nd round for the first time in almost 20 years.

The Trois-Rivières region is also notorious for preparing kids to play in the NCAA.
 

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Lalancette reported that he intends to play Ontario Jr. A next year, which could be a smokescreen. However, if we assume that the players selected in the early rounds of the USHL draft are going NCAA (Dagenais, Chartrand, Dube, Rozzi), plus Lawrence who is already USHL tendered, plus O'Donnell who chose the OHL route, plus some of the other Quebec kids rumored to be leaning NCAA (Taillefer, Yared), this might be the least talented draft class (to actually play in the league) I can recall since I've been following the QMJHL.
It was already weak to begin with, but arguably half of the top 15 guys seem to not be reporting to the Q. Definitely the weakest crop I've seen in 7 years scouting this draft.

On Dagenais, definitely has a pro package, but was a bit shocked to see him ranked first, not going to lie.
 

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It was already weak to begin with, but arguably half of the top 15 guys seem to not be reporting to the Q. Definitely the weakest crop I've seen in 7 years scouting this draft.

On Dagenais, definitely has a pro package, but was a bit shocked to see him ranked first, not going to lie.

Half of the 2019 1st round wasn't going to report. They all did but 1 (Richard).

I'll wait and see.

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Not sure how this is relevant. A ton has changed in the past 5 years

It was only an example. It happens often that kids pretend to go NCAA and ends up in the Q. Wintersun says half of the first round this year isn't reporting but most of them probably will.

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Nause didn't report at 16, went back in the draft and reported at 17.

He did report though. Just like Reynolds who didn't report at 16 but at 17.
 

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It was only an example. It happens often that kids pretend to go NCAA and ends up in the Q. Wintersun says half of the first round this year isn't reporting but most of them probably will.



He did report though. Just like Reynolds who didn't report at 16 but at 17.
The difference is that Reynolds reported to the team that drafted him. Val D'Or accepted compensation for Nause (which is exactly what will happen if they take one of the NCAA guys, only with the risk that they don't come to the Q at 17)
 

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It was only an example. It happens often that kids pretend to go NCAA and ends up in the Q. Wintersun says half of the first round this year isn't reporting but most of them probably will.



He did report though. Just like Reynolds who didn't report at 16 but at 17.

I agree that, out of the 8-10 guys speculated to be "leaning" NCAA, most of them will end up in the Q at some point. The issue is if you even lose 4-5 of these guys in an already watered down draft (as Wintersun pointed out), it doesn't bode well for talent influx into the league.
 

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Half of the 2019 1st round wasn't going to report. They all did but 1 (Richard).

I'll wait and see.

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I only count 6 players out of those 18 who were truly considering the NCAA.

All I'm saying is as of today, Dagenais, Lawrence, Chartrand, Yared, Rozzi and Taillefer, 6 of the top 12 guys are supposed to go NCAA (imo there's a bit of a gap between that top 12 and the rest, although I'd have Lottin and Olivier in that group personnaly).

To be fair, is it possible that a couple of them are convinced to play in the Q ? Yes, I would expect maybe 2 to end up coming to the Q.

But still, when it's a strong LSL crop, there's always a bit more NCAA guys.

If you cut 6 of the 12 prospects in a already weak class, it gets very weak I guess.

I really hope most of those guys do report to the Q.
 
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