Extended Matthews vs Stutzle going forward?

[Karl Eriksson]

Matthews has a year left at $11.6M, then let’s assume he signs for 7-8 years in the area of $12M to $13M

Stutzle has 8 years left at $8.35M

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[leafsfan2point0]

Answer is Matthews until proven otherwise. I’m sure the leafs player will lose this poll because he’s leaf though.

 

[wasunder]

Matthews extended, Stutzle if he’s not.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Matthews has a year left at $11.6M, then let’s assume he signs for 7-8 years in the area of $12M to $13M

Stutzle has 8 years left at $8.35M

I think based on the prior negotiations we can assume Matthews takes the max so at a minimum he will be at $13 million imo.

 

[MCR74]

Last night really hurt, huh?

Didn't we have a similar poll not too long ago?

 

[MinnesotaFats]

Matthews is the better player. But once extended, paying him 50% more than Timmy, the choice is clear. AM isn’t McDavid and at this point I think Timmy still has a chance to be as much of a point producer as AM

 

[Akrapovince]

I’ll take the next 5 years of Matthews at 13m over the next 8 years of Stützle at 8.35.

Look at DeBrincat, the hardest thing in this league is scoring goals.

I know this defeats the purpose of this poll now but if Jimmy puts up a 40 goal 50-60 point season next year it’s him, and I think it’s totally within the realm of possibility.

 

[MinnesotaFats]

I’ll take the next 5 years of Matthews at 13m over the next 8 years of Stützle at 8.35.

Look at DeBrincat, the hardest thing in this league is scoring goals.

I know this defeats the purpose of this poll now but if Jimmy puts up a 40 goal 50-60 point season next year it’s him, and I think it’s totally within the realm of possibility.

Goal scoring is huge. Agreed. But where has that taken the Leafs? I dont think it’s a hard argument to make that Timmy plus another $5m player are better than AM. Only Leafs fans likely think otherwise. Or people that haven’t actually watched Timmy play. He’s a young Draisaitl (who himself is better than AM)

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Last night really hurt, huh?

Didn't we have a similar poll not too long ago?

Yes but Matthews didint have an extension in place in the wording of the last poll so he got blown out of the water.

This one is more fair

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Goal scoring is huge. Agreed. But where has that taken the Leafs? I dont think it’s a hard argument to make that Timmy plus another $5m player are better than AM. Only Leafs fans likely think otherwise. Or people that haven’t actually watched Timmy play. He’s a young Draisaitl (who himself is better than AM)

So, Timmy plus Batherson?

Where have they taken Ottawa?

I'd vote for Stutzle but check your argument.

 

[Faceboner]

Rather have stu for 8.35 on the sabres matthews would be to expensive with stu you have more room to use cap to address an area of weakness and still have an elite no.1 even though AM os still better

I’ll take the next 5 years of Matthews at 13m over the next 8 years of Stützle at 8.35.

Look at DeBrincat, the hardest thing in this league is scoring goals.

I know this defeats the purpose of this poll now but if Jimmy puts up a 40 goal 50-60 point season next year it’s him, and I think it’s totally within the realm of possibility.

If he scores 40 he's getting 90-100+ points

 

[Connor McConnor]

We going a little too far here off a good season from Timmy. AM 100% of the time but let’s revisit this in a year.

 

[34]

What is with all these attempt to crap on Matthews threads? Like seriously.

you know, we are talking about the current rocket Richard winner, who won it back to back. Hart winner, Ted Lindsay…..

GET REAL

 

[Sting]

I mean, how many players aged 21 are doing what Tim is doing now? He's already bested Matthew's 3rd season numbers.

I agree though, poll is definitely premature. I'd like to see what both do next season.

 

[Korpse]

12-13 AAV is modest.

 

[Atomos2]

Already putting a Hart, Lindsay and double Rockets in Stutzle's trophy case eh?

HF Ottawa working their magic. Haven't been keeping up but guessing they're out of the playoff picture?

 

[SheldonJPlankton]

Paying Matthews 13MM as a 33 year old seems to me to be far more risky than paying Stutzle 8.35MM as a 28 year-old.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

Goal scoring is huge. Agreed. But where has that taken the Leafs? I dont think it’s a hard argument to make that Timmy plus another $5m player are better than AM. Only Leafs fans likely think otherwise. Or people that haven’t actually watched Timmy play. He’s a young Draisaitl (who himself is better than AM)

"probably only Leaf fans think otherwise", then says something only a Sens fan would think. Sens added Giroux and Debrincat, and Stutzle has taken the next step, having an amazing season, and they still can't crack the playoffs.

 

[Akrapovince]

Rather have stu for 8.35 on the sabres matthews would be to expensive with stu you have more room to use cap to address an area of weakness and still have an elite no.1 even though AM os still better


If he scores 40 he's getting 90-100+ points

Agreed, meant assist.

 

[Akrapovince]

"probably only Leaf fans think otherwise", then says something only a Sens fan would think. Sens added Giroux and Debrincat, and Stutzle has taken the next step, having an amazing season, and they still can't crack the playoffs.

Not defending our performance this year, but losing Norris and our 1A, 1B and sometimes both goaltenders for prolonged periods of the season really hurt. Injuries happen, I get it- but these aren’t losses that could have been expected or easily remedied.

Sounds like mental gymnastics but the benefits of adding Giroux and Cat was pretty much leveled out by not having another top six centre to play with them and rushing Greig/Pinto into a spot. (Or top six winger/player in general).

 

[wetcoast]

Matthews is the better player. But once extended, paying him 50% more than Timmy, the choice is clear. AM isn’t McDavid and at this point I think Timmy still has a chance to be as much of a point producer as AM

Pretty much this but Tim has to keep ascending here a bit still.

 

[bert]

I think based on the prior negotiations we can assume Matthews takes the max so at a minimum he will be at $13 million imo.

You know he's looking for 15 and he is gonna get it somewhere. Thats why he signed the original contract he did. Do people actually think he is going to extend long term at 13 million? Yikes, prepare to be disappointed.

Matthews is better right now no debate. But I dont think he is 6 million a year better. I also think the gap is going to continue to tighten.

 

[Akrapovince]

You know he's looking for 15 and he is gonna get it somewhere. Do people actually think he is going to extend long term at 13 million? Yikes prepare to be dissapointed.

It’s almost like he signed a 5 year deal to maximize his earnings for his next deal or something.

 

[Sens9292]

Stutzle is far above Matthews D+3 year. Progression isn’t linear but Stutzle os a safe bet to continue developing his skills

 

[MessierII]

That’s a good question. I want to say Matthews but that’s just a ton of cap and he’s had a lot more injury issues.