Confirmed Signing with Link: Expansion Draft Thread

[cybresabre]

If I'm Vegas I take Fleury, Mrazek, Raanta, Grubauer, Pickard and Subban. Hoard the goalies, trade whichever ones bring the most back.

Neal - Shipachyov - Stempniak
Perron - Marchesseault - Dano
McGinn - Karlsson - Hudon
Boucher - Dowd - Shaw
Rychel - Weal

Methot - Dumba
De Haan - Van Riemsdyk
Dillon - Dotchin
Merill - Hamhuis
Reinhart - Kulak

Fleury/Mrazek/Grubauer/Raanta/Pickard/Subban

Something like this.. and they will have over three 1st rounders and many more picks from what they can trade. Vegas will be in a good spot.

As a Sabres fan, that looks perfect!

 

[powerstuck]

Radulov is most likely re-signing with th Habs. If it was about cashing in, he wouldn't have signed with Montreal in the fist place since there were better offers elsewhere last year.

Unless Bergevin really lowballs him, he'll stay in Montreal.

Of course he is...

 

[Karl Eriksson]

I am seeing a lot of mocks where Vegas takes Bobby Ryan over Methot. Is that plausible?

There is a better D crop for sure, which does make forwards more valuable...but I still think it's wishful thinking that Vegas takes Ryan.

 

[deckercky]

I am seeing a lot of mocks where Vegas takes Bobby Ryan over Methot. Is that plausible?

There is a better D crop for sure, which does make forwards more valuable...but I still think it's wishful thinking that Vegas takes Ryan.

It all depends on the side deals. There's a lot more defencemen available and not many top 6 forwards. Taking Marchessault, Neal and Ryan gives Vegas a legit top line (not elite by any measure, but three first line players).

I could also see Ottawa paying Vegas to take Ryan over Methot, or other teams paying Vegas to pick Methot then trade him.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

No, a player has to be on a team's reserve list at the trade deadline to be eligible for an 8 year deal.

No they can't.

Thanks. I did not know that.


As for Ottawa's expansion situation, if I were McPhee I'd select Claesson over both Methot and Ryan.

Claesson is a young blueliner who can play big minutes right away, and who could be a building block.

A Claesson-Dumba duo would be a very nice first pairing.

 

[BurntToast]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/assemble-the-knights/user-pick?UserName=BTLKGXQP

Pretty Legit.

 

[Blue Goose]

It all depends on the side deals. There's a lot more defencemen available and not many top 6 forwards. Taking Marchessault, Neal and Ryan gives Vegas a legit top line (not elite by any measure, but three first line players).

I could also see Ottawa paying Vegas to take Ryan over Methot, or other teams paying Vegas to pick Methot then trade him.

Bingo. And I'd be totally fine with that.

With all-due respect to MAF, I think Ryan is the slightly more marketable star player, and his contract doesn't scare me one bit. The fact that it's for five more years is actually a good thing, since it will allow us to trade players left and right in the next two seasons, knowing that he'll always be locked down to the first line. The inflated cap hit also keeps us well above the floor throughout each season and trade deadline. Then, when we're ready to compete in Year 3 or 4, Ryan is still there as a veteran forward with scoring punch in our Top 6.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/assemble-the-knights/user-pick?UserName=BTLKGXQP

Pretty Legit.

They completely ignored the side deals that we all know have been made already.

Except for Kruger, but that will also cost van Riemsdyk (at least).

 

[tmg]

Thanks. I did not know that.


As for Ottawa's expansion situation, if I were McPhee I'd select Claesson over both Methot and Ryan.

Claesson is a young blueliner who can play big minutes right away, and who could be a building block.

I'm not convinced that Claesson can play 'big minutes right away' over the course of a full season. This is a player who, for his first 26 games played this past season, never broke the 15 minute TOI mark. He only started to get more minutes when the Senators went through defenseman injury hell circa March 30.

Maybe in the future he'll prove to be a reliable full-season big-minutes defender. But for the majority of his most recent season, he has been... not that.

 

[hi]

R. Smith - Shipachyov - Rust
Hudon - Weal - Bennett
Aberg - Lindberg - Dowd
Khaira - Kruger - Richardson

Nordstrom/Carrier/Rychel/Rodin/Dano

De Haan - Vatanen
Hamhuis - Dumba
Claesson - Schlemko

C. Miller/Kulak/Dotchin

Mrazek
Pickard
Grubauer
Korpisalo


Eakin is not the solution for the 2C spot imo. They need to trade for another center and then sign a few wingers. Trade 2 of the goalies for forward help.

 

[Prairie Habs]

Of course he is...

What do you expect MB/Radulov to say?

"Well, we already have a deal worked out and we are just waiting to sign it in order to circumvent the draft."

Not saying it is guaranteed he will come back, but I would take the current negotiation troubles with a grain of salt.

 

[Kingsfan1]

I'm still tripping that Islanders left Nelson, Bailey, De Haan, unprotected . Wtf !!!

They're all on cheap contracts , I'd love any of them on the Kings

 

[Number8]

A lot Vegas proposals are being thrown around with teams in their division...

Other than an apparent sweetheart deal for Anaheim.. wouldn't it be fair to ignore any and all proposals where Vegas is dealing big with a division rival?

i.e. Dustin Brown or any goalie (Raanta/Grubauer) to the Yotes via Vegas..

Boy if I'm a new expansion team owner who has just ponied up $500M I'd sure be pissed at my GM if he gives a sweetheart deal to a team in my division.

This is the only time in the next several years that LVG is going to be relevant -- let alone in any position of strength. Helping Anaheim out with a logjam on defense with anything remotely close to any sort of a "sweetheart" deal would be a fireable offense if I were that owner.

McPhee is not that dumb is he?

 

[Jordan Belfort]

Neal - Shipachyov - perron
boedker - nelson - marchasaault
stempniak - Plekanec - grabner
Raffl - bonino - karlsson
mcginn
Grigorenko


hamhuis - Dumba
mcnabb - tvr
theodore - Bogosian
methot - sustr
merill

mrazek
Grubauer
subban

dano
Shinkaruk
Gaunce
Leipsic
Koekkoek
Reinhart

Honestly this team makes the playoffs.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Honestly this team makes the playoffs.

Bonino is a UFA, no?

 

[Pandaman11]

Here's a thing I don't understand: a rule says...

The Golden Knights can trade any player selected in the expansion draft, but not back to the team that they were selected from until January 1st, 2018.

Does that mean that just Vegas can't trade him to that team, or that he's not allowed to go there until Jan?
Could he be traded to another team and from there back to his old team?

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Honestly this team makes the playoffs.

Not in the West it doesn't.

San Jose
Anaheim
Edmonton
Calgary
LA

Minnesota
St. Louis
Chicago
Nashville
Dallas

Which 3 teams would they finish higher than?

 

[Crede777]

Here's a thing I don't understand: a rule says...

The Golden Knights can trade any player selected in the expansion draft, but not back to the team that they were selected from until January 1st, 2018.

Does that mean that just Vegas can't trade him to that team, or that he's not allowed to go there until Jan?
Could he be traded to another team and from there back to his old team?

Vegas cannot trade the player back to the team from which he was selected before January 1st.

This means if Vegas submits a trade to the NHL before that date which involves a player returning to his original team, then the NHL will not approve it and the trade will not go through.

Yes, Vegas can trade a player to another team and then that team may trade the player to his original team.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

A lot Vegas proposals are being thrown around with teams in their division...

Other than an apparent sweetheart deal for Anaheim.. wouldn't it be fair to ignore any and all proposals where Vegas is dealing big with a division rival?

i.e. Dustin Brown or any goalie (Raanta/Grubauer) to the Yotes via Vegas..

Didn't Montreal and Tampa just make a big deal within their division? Anaheim and Edmonton have a history of dealing with each other.

I don't think it's as big a deal as fans think.

 

[ChrisKuuuunitz]

I get why everyone thinks they should take Fleury from Pittsburgh, but I think long term they'd be better off choosing Kevin Pollock. I can't believe the Pens didn't protect him.

let it go, it's a best of 7 series. The better team won.

 

[Pandaman11]

Bonino is a UFA, no?

...which doesn't mean that they can't sign him.

 

[King Mapes]

Very solid crop of defencemen available for an expansion draft.

Same with Goalies. Mrazek/Fleury combo could be one of the better duos. They will be paper thin up front though.

 

[Lolonegoal]

For fun, I took a shot at a win-now line-up. Most of you will question some of the veterans but I don't think they are terrible choices when given very little alternatives. For example, Plekanec has a hefty contract and is declining, but Montreal has not much else to give and the contract only has one year left, and centre is definitely a position of value for Vegas. I have Strome in my line-up, but you gotta think Islanders has some sort of deal in place with that wacky protection list. Other choices I valued veteran goal scorers ie. Grabner/Ryan over other picks like Raanta or Methot where similiar players were available on most other teams. They can act as stop gaps until the younger players, and possible new draftees are ready to take on larger roles. All fits under the cap and still has a decent prospect pool not in the starting line-up.

Neal - Strome - Ryan
Cammalleri - Plekanec - Grabner
Perron - Marchessault - Boedker
Pulkinnen - Grigorenko - Stempniak
Etem

Hamhuis - Johnson
Dumba - Bogosian
Van Riemysdyk - Reinhart
McNabb

Fleury
Neuvrith
Grubauer

Minors:

Shinkaruk, Rychel, Dano, Gaunce,
Koekkoek, Ouellette, Subban (G), Theodore (trade)



Again I'm not saying this is the best option for Vegas, but in some scenario where the NHL was putting on pressure to succeed out the gate, this would be my choice.

 

[hockeykicker]

 

[Kraken Jokes]

If no deals are struck.

Grigorenko - Shipyachov - Strome
C.Wilson - Weal* - R.Smith
Paquette - Lindberg - Brouwer
Boucher - N.Shore - Rust
(Rychel, Dano)

J.Johnson - Shattenkirk*
Dillon - Vatanen
Methot - Dumba
(Van Riemsdyk)

Mrazek
Ward

Jaskin, Hudon, Merill, C.Miller, Pateryn, Domingue, Brossiot, Ullmark

*UFA