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That was certainly something, I still enjoyed it, lots of scoring which is nice, did not cover my 1.5 though haha
GDT: [EX GM 6] Vancouver Canucks vs. Edmonton Oilers | 7:00PM PST | Canucks.com
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logan5
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Hoglander has earned a spot on this team. He’s sporadic and needs to calm down and think for half a second sometimes but his tenacity and motor is NHL tier.
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Go ahead foot
Never,the Captain has no balls.He needs to grow some or give the C to someone who has some.
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Agree. I feel like you have to just ride it out with Hoglander.
I remember Viktor Arvidsson showing the same motor and skills but he didn't put it together until he reached 23 years old.
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Survived that ugly stream, and survived that ugly game.
Psychologically, that was probably a needed win. But at the same time, Edmonton probably feels pretty good about the amount of dirty crap they got away with in this game with zero response.
- Pettersson is going to have a huge season if he stays healthy and maintains this intensity. This is the best he's looked since the first 20 games of his career 4 years ago. But disappointingly that line with Podkolzin didn't really get the liftoff everyone hoped for tonight, although the choppy game and tons of PPs didn't help. Probably Podkolzin's worst game of the preseason. Kuzmenko was a bit quieter tonight but still looks like a better version of Boeser on the PP.
- Horvat ended up picking up a couple points, but man what a piss-poor effort. Lazy passes to nobody in the middle of the ice, not moving his feet to chase for pucks, didn't respond physically when 4 separate teammates were cheapshotted - in most cases with him on the ice. Barf. Needs to be way more checked in than that.
- Garland has had a good preseason and keeps picking up points. Pearson had a better game than against Seattle and was the only guy who at least tried to respond to Edmonton cheapshots.
- Dickinson-Aman-Lazar line was decent. Zero skill level but 3 big guys who work hard and get around the ice well and can zero-event their shifts. Aman has hung in the roster discussion longer than I expected.
- disappointing game for Joshua after the way he trucked Seattle earlier in the preseason. Was invisible physically tonight in a game where the team needed it.
- Hoglander was a little better tonight, but still choppy and isolated. But did score again. Hard to see where he fits in the lineup, doesn't really seem to have chemistry anywhere or really fit on any line.
- Kyle Burroughs should be locked into the top 6 to start the season. Was probably the team's best defender tonight while playing his off-side with a bumbling Tyler Myers. Barely put a foot wrong and everything he did looked crisp and effective. Skating better, playing with more tempo and assertiveness to start this season. Absolutely no contest between he and Poolman in this preseason in terms of effectiveness. Has been strong in every game he's played.
- Poolman was the opposite of Burroughs. Everything he did, he did slowly. Chasing the play, looking confused despite being in a good situation with the reliable OEL. On merit, he should just leave his gear in a locker in Abbotsford tonight.
- Quinn Hughes did some nice things offensively on the PP but had a rough as hell night defensively at ES. Schooled by McDavid, and was totally switched off (along with Myers) in conceding a breakaway with 20 seconds left. Not a sharp effort for him.
- Martin was ... meh. Hard to blame him in a vacuum for any of the goals but didn't really make any huge saves and had a few ugly rebounds that created second chance opportunities that shouldn't have happened.
Psychologically, that was probably a needed win. But at the same time, Edmonton probably feels pretty good about the amount of dirty crap they got away with in this game with zero response.
- Pettersson is going to have a huge season if he stays healthy and maintains this intensity. This is the best he's looked since the first 20 games of his career 4 years ago. But disappointingly that line with Podkolzin didn't really get the liftoff everyone hoped for tonight, although the choppy game and tons of PPs didn't help. Probably Podkolzin's worst game of the preseason. Kuzmenko was a bit quieter tonight but still looks like a better version of Boeser on the PP.
- Horvat ended up picking up a couple points, but man what a piss-poor effort. Lazy passes to nobody in the middle of the ice, not moving his feet to chase for pucks, didn't respond physically when 4 separate teammates were cheapshotted - in most cases with him on the ice. Barf. Needs to be way more checked in than that.
- Garland has had a good preseason and keeps picking up points. Pearson had a better game than against Seattle and was the only guy who at least tried to respond to Edmonton cheapshots.
- Dickinson-Aman-Lazar line was decent. Zero skill level but 3 big guys who work hard and get around the ice well and can zero-event their shifts. Aman has hung in the roster discussion longer than I expected.
- disappointing game for Joshua after the way he trucked Seattle earlier in the preseason. Was invisible physically tonight in a game where the team needed it.
- Hoglander was a little better tonight, but still choppy and isolated. But did score again. Hard to see where he fits in the lineup, doesn't really seem to have chemistry anywhere or really fit on any line.
- Kyle Burroughs should be locked into the top 6 to start the season. Was probably the team's best defender tonight while playing his off-side with a bumbling Tyler Myers. Barely put a foot wrong and everything he did looked crisp and effective. Skating better, playing with more tempo and assertiveness to start this season. Absolutely no contest between he and Poolman in this preseason in terms of effectiveness. Has been strong in every game he's played.
- Poolman was the opposite of Burroughs. Everything he did, he did slowly. Chasing the play, looking confused despite being in a good situation with the reliable OEL. On merit, he should just leave his gear in a locker in Abbotsford tonight.
- Quinn Hughes did some nice things offensively on the PP but had a rough as hell night defensively at ES. Schooled by McDavid, and was totally switched off (along with Myers) in conceding a breakaway with 20 seconds left. Not a sharp effort for him.
- Martin was ... meh. Hard to blame him in a vacuum for any of the goals but didn't really make any huge saves and had a few ugly rebounds that created second chance opportunities that shouldn't have happened.
Isn't 30% pretty decent?
Hughes Schenn
OEL Myers
Rathbone Burroughs
Wolanin
Poolman to AHL. Clear as day to me.
Also took a quick look at the Edmonton board. The average IQ there is 10-20 points lower for sure. Lots of hoping for Canucks injuries and even saw one about sending Petey to the hospital lol
OEL Myers
Rathbone Burroughs
Wolanin
Poolman to AHL. Clear as day to me.
Also took a quick look at the Edmonton board. The average IQ there is 10-20 points lower for sure. Lots of hoping for Canucks injuries and even saw one about sending Petey to the hospital lol
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Game had some real feeling in it. Canucks fortunate the Hughes and Pettersson weren't too badly hurt. If the team wants to go anywhere they needs to respond fully to any attempt to take out those players.
Good
Garland - pepper pot who never takes a shift off. Effective in every zone.
Hughes - outstanding. Played it smarter with McDavid as game went on by moving up and knocking puck away as McDavid was picking it up.
Pettersson - worked hard both ways and his shooting was the difference.
Burroughs - got so you wanted the puck on his stick more than almost any other d-man stick not named Hughes.
Bad
Poolman - couldn't handle Oiler speed. Looks off balance near all the time.
Myers - at his ugliness in this one. Might have been one step up from Poolman but that's debatable. We know he can play better than this whereas we know Poolman can't
Horvat - looked like he gave a damn late in the third but otherwise stank. Didn't think he showed any skill any of his shots on goal. Terrible coming back in defensive transition. So far this season, his skating, never very good, seems to have taken a step back.
Others
Joshua - can't do anything with the puck. Really hasn't met minimum expectations to this point in terms of actually being able to play.
Dickinson - maybe his best game but still not good enough. Simply cannot win a battle for the puck. Mediocre at best in every skill. Had no chance of slowing McDavid in the neutral zone or even making him change direction.
Lazar - had some good moments and a positive step in this game. Looks like he may help the team.
Aman - complimentary player but doing better along boards than most of his competition for a job.
Martin - certainly not stellar and I don't know how confident you can be with him as the back up. Probably better than Skinner however.
Kuzmenko - finding his way in this game a bit. Times when him and Pettersson showed some chemistry but he also had trouble getting the puck out of his end and through neutral ice.
Hoglander - good start but faded after getting high-sticked by Nurse (you wonder if the League will review that)
Dries - best game of the pre-season. Had the wheels in this one to stay in the play. Maybe got a little boost playing in front of Abby fans.
Good
Garland - pepper pot who never takes a shift off. Effective in every zone.
Hughes - outstanding. Played it smarter with McDavid as game went on by moving up and knocking puck away as McDavid was picking it up.
Pettersson - worked hard both ways and his shooting was the difference.
Burroughs - got so you wanted the puck on his stick more than almost any other d-man stick not named Hughes.
Bad
Poolman - couldn't handle Oiler speed. Looks off balance near all the time.
Myers - at his ugliness in this one. Might have been one step up from Poolman but that's debatable. We know he can play better than this whereas we know Poolman can't
Horvat - looked like he gave a damn late in the third but otherwise stank. Didn't think he showed any skill any of his shots on goal. Terrible coming back in defensive transition. So far this season, his skating, never very good, seems to have taken a step back.
Others
Joshua - can't do anything with the puck. Really hasn't met minimum expectations to this point in terms of actually being able to play.
Dickinson - maybe his best game but still not good enough. Simply cannot win a battle for the puck. Mediocre at best in every skill. Had no chance of slowing McDavid in the neutral zone or even making him change direction.
Lazar - had some good moments and a positive step in this game. Looks like he may help the team.
Aman - complimentary player but doing better along boards than most of his competition for a job.
Martin - certainly not stellar and I don't know how confident you can be with him as the back up. Probably better than Skinner however.
Kuzmenko - finding his way in this game a bit. Times when him and Pettersson showed some chemistry but he also had trouble getting the puck out of his end and through neutral ice.
Hoglander - good start but faded after getting high-sticked by Nurse (you wonder if the League will review that)
Dries - best game of the pre-season. Had the wheels in this one to stay in the play. Maybe got a little boost playing in front of Abby fans.
logan5
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Can we interpret the 10 power plays being the result of the Canucks playing well and forcing Edmonton to take penalties. Probly not, but thought I'd throw that out there.Wasn't watching the game too closely due to the poor broadcast quality.
GreeningOil
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A bad egg doesn’t ruin the whole dozen? Don’t paint us all as bad please
Have a nice day
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nowhereman
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I was really disappointed to see the response on the Pettersson hit, especially when it looked like Horvat was trying to diffuse the situation rather than show any sort of push back. Really pathetic. I don't expect him to come in there swinging his stick around like an axe but I'm sick and tired of this team being such a wilting flower that can watch its best players be pushed around. This team needs to show some heart and stick up for each other and that culture starts with the captain.
And it's one thing when it's a 1-goal game in the 3rd period in the regular season and you don't want to lose the game by reacting.
It's another when it's a preseason game and the result is meaningless. If some guy cheapshots your teammate, you get your pound of flesh. Putting your team shorthanded is completely irrelevant.
Can’t stress enough how sad it was to see Horvat actively turn away each time he saw someone get cheapshotted. Absolutely unacceptable from the captain, wow
I've been on the trade Horvat train since the lack of any response during the covid debacle. He's not a good leader. Evidenced over and over. Ship him out for a strong RD or boatload of picks.
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To steel man what he means, I think he is referring to the insane schedule the Canucks were given after they had a Covid outbreak.
never. maybe once in a bluemoon. that one game in detroit, garland got mugged and he came in in his defense.
