Count me as someone who still takes losing Haula and Tuch over Dumba 10 times out of 10. And I don't consider that a knock on either player. It's really good to see Haula, especially, taking off in Vegas this year.
Only because Pominville's 5.6 million was going the other way, which made room for Ennis' 4.6 million, which if it didn't happen meant we'd have even less room for Haula's 2.75 million.
One of Granlund or Niederreiter would also be gone in that scenario.I was always really bummed to lose Haula. One of my favorite players, for sure.
In hindsight, with how Murphy has came in and played, I think I would have rather lost Dumba to Vegas, and then kept Haula-Tuch.
Do that and one of Nino/Granlund is not here.I would have just lost Dumba and thus made no other trades last offseason.
People keep saying they would have taken Dumba and I keep saying that was not a no-brainer, it could have as easily been Eric Staal. We don't know and the GM made his trade to ensure he did know the outcome was one he could live with.
And I agree that losing Dumba in the expansion would have been a giant error. The GM's hands were tied. But also not surprising to see Haula thrive. He's still not as good as Granlund.
Well said. I would add that I don't think losing Dumba was ever going to be an option because of the salary cap. If Fletcher wasn't able to work out a deal before the draft, it would've been Brodin that was exposed.Granny is the better overall player. Haula is the better center.
It's easier to look at things in hindsight. Keeping Dumba/Brodin, Staal/Zucker and re-signing Granny/Nino were more important to GMCF than Haula, Pommer, Scandella, and Tuch. That's essentially the breakdown of what happened last year.
I say Dumba/Brodin and Staal/Zucker because that's where the cutoff line and debate was for exposed players. If a deal hadn't have been made things could have shaken out differently for the protection list. The list was just a moot point after the Haula/Tuch deal was in place.
Only because Pominville's 5.6 million was going the other way, which made room for Ennis' 4.6 million, which if it didn't happen meant we'd have even less room for Haula's 2.75 million.
I need to write these analogies downI didn't mean to imply that there was a way to keep Haula in place of Ennis with everything else happening as desired, or anything like that. Losing Haula was one of several changes made for the sake of precious cap space, which after adding Ennis's contract, is infuriating. It's like skipping lunch for a week because you're going to an expensive dinner on Friday, and on Friday night when you finally get to this super nice restaurant, the only thing on the menu is burnt pickles that were used to clean the restroom.
At the time of the expansion I thought losing just Haula + Tuch was a well-executed dodge so I'm not knocking that move. But that burnt bathroom cleaning pickle is making me complain about the whole goddamn week's worth of lunches leading up to it.
No because they are lacking in forward talent and overloaded on defenders. Similar to how the Wild wouldn't be interested in Dumba for Haula+Tuch.We have a easy way to solve this. Do you think Vegas would send back Haula and Tuch for Dumba?
Yeah, I didn't either.
I like Haula, always haved.
Where does he play to match his point total from Vegas? Top 6 with Staal, Granlund, Zucker, Nino, Koivu, Coyle. Parise when he comes back. Or with Stewart, Mitchel, Cullen? Haula has been on the Vegas PP. Whos time does he take away to meet his simular numbers.
The bad of the whole thing is not Brodin, Dumba or who else we lose or could've lost. . Its that we got a lot older with Haula and Tuch gone.
Dumba would not have been availableim sure we would have protected nino & granny so that really left coyle ; staal ; dumba ; scanny or brodin available without the haula / tuch deal. peter the reason i dont think vegas would have picked staal because they knew they would most likely lose him after 2 years. (why would he re-sign?) if i were vegas gm i would have picked dumba.
When exactly was he given 17 minutes a night in Minnesota? Or 2+ minutes of power play time a night? The highest average PP TOI per game he had with Minnesota was 12 freaking seconds...