GWT: EPL - Matchweek 38

[JeffreyLFC]

Arsenal choked by losing to Villa on April 14th, but Liverpool, who were level with Arsenal at the time with equal games played, did not choke by losing to Palace.

Checks out.

Why is this choked talk so important for all of you? I am seriously intrigued.
Both team choked (Arsenal and LFC) and missed out. One team (Man City) did not choke and won. It is still not wrong to call out Arsenal mentality against Man City at the Etihad. Based on the comments here, I guess Arsenal supporters are fine with that mentality and good on them I guess... as I a neutral fan I thought it was a coward move but for all Arsenal supporter it was a masterclass from Arteta

 

[luiginb]

No one choked. City were always favorites, cause they play by different rules.

 

[hatterson]

Why is this choked talk so important for all of you? I am seriously intrigued.
Both team choked (Arsenal and LFC) and missed out. One team (Man City) did not choke and won. It is still not wrong to call out Arsenal mentality against Man City at the Etihad. Based on the comments here, I guess Arsenal supporters are fine with that mentality and good on them I guess...

Oh it's not important to me at all. I don't care who choked or didn't choke or whatever you want to call it. But it appears deeply important to Savant.

City was always the favorite because they have an insane depth that no one else can match.

 

[Savant]

Oh it's not important to me at all. I don't care who choked or didn't choke or whatever you want to call it. But it appears deeply important to Savant.

City was always the favorite because they have an insane depth that no one else can match.

Please. All season I was saying it’s all fun and games until KDB is healthy when everyone was putting City in the dirt. Well guess what happened. The Arsenal fans are desperate to deflect their failing onto the LFC fans; I guess that makes them feel better. LFC have their own problems. We will be okay

 

[bluesfan94]

I think we have different definitions of that word. Get your trophy count up and then we can talk about what choking means.

I think it’s really funny that the argument is basically we aren’t good enough to have choked. Which I don’t know how is better, but maybe that’s just me. Arsenal should have played for a win against City. LFC should have signed three players in January. Shit happens

You’ve won as many premier league titles as Blackburn and Leicester. Get your trophy count up? Have some shame.

Did City play for a draw when they failed to register a shot after the 34’ and lost at the Emirates?

As for your kdb excuse, when he came back, Liverpool were 5 points clear. Finished 9 points back. KdB couldn’t have done a thing if Liverpool hadn’t choked.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Time led at The Etihad in the 2023-24 PL:

Chelsea - 41 minutes
Liverpool - 0 minutes
Arsenal - 0 minutes

The only stat that matters

 

[Power Man]

i don’t see the problem. If anything we’re trying to give you (for lack of a better word/maybe the wrong word) advice to go there and try. Instead we watched you make the same mistake that we did. But again at least we’ve won their in UCL, and we did win a PL against Pep, so I wouldn’t exactly say we are unqualified to say “hey maybe think you should have done that” . Also - who is this team with the great record at the Ettihad in general here?


Counting on City to drop points is never a good strategy, plain and simple. Arteta of all people should have known that.


He isn’t wrong though. You can take a second 2nd of a UCL final to penalties. Can’t do that in the league

City played to get a draw last year at the Emirates

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Time led at The Etihad in the 2023-24 PL:

Chelsea - 41 minutes
Liverpool - 0 minutes
Arsenal - 0 minutes

The only stat that matters

On more detailed research:

Time left at the Etihad in 23-24

Man U - 48 minutes
Chelsea - 41 minutes
Spurs - 3 minutes
The rest of the league - 0 minutes

 

[bluesfan94]

On more detailed research:

Time left at the Etihad in 23-24

Man U - 48 minutes
Chelsea - 41 minutes
Spurs - 3 minutes
The rest of the league - 0 minutes

Clearly, Man U had the best season this year.

 

[Savant]

You’ve won as many premier league titles as Blackburn and Leicester. Get your trophy count up? Have some shame.

Are you sure you want to compare trophy counts?

Did City play for a draw when they failed to register a shot after the 34’ and lost at the Emirates?

I don’t know ask Pep. Wasn’t that game in like the first week of October? That’s a big difference.

As for your kdb excuse, when he came back, Liverpool were 5 points clear. Finished 9 points back. KdB couldn’t have done a thing if Liverpool hadn’t choked.

It’s not an excuse it’s reality. I was not sleeping on this City team. Everyone else was. I consistently said this team needed to add three players in January to keep up like yall did last year. Sometimes I hate being right about this stuff

You can keep deflecting if it makes you feel better. Hopefully you are as lucky as you were this year next year.

City played to get a draw last year at the Emirates

There is a difference in doing this the first week of October and doing this in the stretch run

 

[Power Man]

Are you sure you want to compare trophy counts?

I don’t know ask Pep. Wasn’t that game in like the first week of October? That’s a big difference.

It’s not an excuse it’s reality. I was not sleeping on this City team. Everyone else was. I consistently said this team needed to add three players in January to keep up like yall did last year. Sometimes I hate being right about this stuff

You can keep deflecting if it makes you feel better. Hopefully you are as lucky as you were this year next year.


There is a difference in doing this the first week of October and doing this in the stretch run

convenient lol

 

[Savant]

convenient lol

What’s convenient about it? The calculus is A LOT difference with 30 weeks to play than there is with 8 weeks to play. That’s not even a controversial statement. PL before and after the holiday period (alone as a reason) are two different animals.

 

[bluesfan94]

Are you sure you want to compare trophy counts?

Given that the whole conversation is about winning the premier league, sure. Let’s compare premier league titles.

There is a difference in doing this the first week of October and doing this in the stretch run

As everyone knows, points in October count less than points in March.

 

[Savant]

Given that the whole conversation is about winning the premier league, sure. Let’s compare premier league titles.

Okay - when was your last one?

As everyone knows, points in October count less than points in March.

No one said this. The strategy is indisputably different in October than it is in late March/early April though. This isn’t even a hot take.

 

[hatterson]

Clearly, Man U had the best season this year.

Was there ever any doubt?

 

[Chimaera]

someone needs to make a banner for chelsea supporters to carry that says we led city for 41 minutes at the Etihad.


They can put an asterisk below it saying "we probably have cheated as much as City, but they weren't punished"

 

[Savant]

someone needs to make a banner for chelsea supporters to carry that says we led city for 41 minutes at the Etihad.


They can put an asterisk below it saying "we probably have cheated as much as City, but they weren't punished"

 

[bluesfan94]

Okay - when was your last one?

Oh man. Buddy never learned what counting is!

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

someone needs to make a banner for chelsea supporters to carry that says we led city for 41 minutes at the Etihad.

Christ almighty, could my tongue have been deeper in my cheek? Y’all are f***ing deranged I swear to god

 

[Chimaera]

Mine was also a joke.

Sarcasm doesn't really carry on the internets.

 

[Savant]

Oh man. Buddy never learned what counting is!

I can count backwards from 2024 to 2020

 

[Live in the Now]

Christ almighty, could my tongue have been deeper in my cheek? Y’all are f***ing deranged I swear to god

You can hang it next to Arsenals We Had A Great Point Pace banner

 

[Peen]

Touch grass please my brothers

 

[KJS14]

It's crazy that the debate is whether Arsenal screwed up by not going for it at the Etihad, when City themselves didn't go for the win at home even though they needed it more. They played it extremely safe and had just as much to do with that game ending in a scoreless draw as we did.

Maybe you guys remember a ton of possession as them trying to score, but 90% of it was the passing it around the umbrella with no threat to score. They had Kovacic camped by his own corner flag and Bernardo Silva came deeper and deeper every time we did press them so that they could keep possession without doing anything with it. Their best chance came from a corner, and then otherwise they created almost nothing.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

It's crazy that the debate is whether Arsenal screwed up by not going for it at the Etihad, when City themselves didn't go for the win at home even though they needed it more. They played it extremely safe and had just as much to do with that game ending in a scoreless draw as we did.

Maybe you guys remember a ton of possession as them trying to score, but 90% of it was the passing it around the umbrella with no threat to score. They had Kovacic camped by his own corner flag and Bernardo Silva came deeper and deeper every time we did press them so that they could keep possession without doing anything with it. Their best chance came from a corner, and then otherwise they created almost nothing.

I think everyone likely remembers it as the most negative match they've ever seen, from both sides. It was... absolutely f***ing grim.