Dreger: Elias Pettersson + Quinn Hughes | PART 2 : Final Countdown

[Canucks LB]

Newest report from dreger seconds ago, His opinion.

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[Nucker42]

Not what Canucks are waiting for if that’s the case….

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

So,
Hughes on a 2yr x 6 mil per RFA deal?

Petey on a 6yr x 8 mil per deal?

 

[Nucker42]

So,
Hughes on a 2yr x 6 mil per RFA deal?

Petey on a 6yr x 8 mil per deal?

Maybe for Hughes but no chance you get EP for 6 years at 8 million.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Maybe for Hughes but no chance you get EP for 6 years at 8 million.

Out of the loop on these two.

What is Peteys comparable deal of recent years?
You're thinking closer to 9 or more?

 

[McJedi]

Hughes: 2 x $6.5mm?

Petey: 3 x $7.25mm

 

[Cogburn]

Well, it's Dreger, so both have already been traded, for what his information on the Canucks is usually worth.

 

[Clinton Comets EHL]

Both of these players are vastly overrated, Hughes especially.

Somehow, someway, for sure, the Canucks will overpay

 

[Oliewud]

Both of these players are vastly overrated, Hughes especially.

Somehow, someway, for sure, the Canucks will overpay

Agreed. Good players who want great player money. Disappointing.

 

[Nucker42]

Both of these players are vastly overrated, Hughes especially.

Somehow, someway, for sure, the Canucks will overpay

Lol… leafs fan I’m guessing

 

[Petey O]

Both of these players are vastly overrated, Hughes especially.

Somehow, someway, for sure, the Canucks will overpay

You're not wrong.

 

[FOurteenS inCisOr]

Lol… leafs fan I’m guessing

Utica Comets fan.

So I’d guess NJD as his NHL team...but I’ll let him confirm or deny on his own.

 

[Canucks LB]

Both of these players are vastly overrated, Hughes especially.

Somehow, someway, for sure, the Canucks will overpay

Hughes has 1 bad defensive year and he is overrated?
Yet puts up huge offensive numbers.

Did people forget how good he was in the playoffs?, and his 1st season defensively and offensively.

 

[flying v 604]

Both of these players are vastly overrated, Hughes especially.

Somehow, someway, for sure, the Canucks will overpay

Yea Quinn was terrible smashing rookie records at 20 that have stood for 30+ years. And Petey and his ppg pace reg season and playoffs at 20-21 years old.
Show your work to prove your point.

 

[Rebels57]

Hughes has 1 bad defensive year and he is overrated?
Yet puts up huge offensive numbers.

Did people forget how good he was in the playoffs?, and his 1st season defensively and offensively.

Welcome to hfboards.com

 

[UrbanImpact]

Hughes is breaking early offensive records that Hall of Famers like Brian Leetch holds but he is not a great dman because he isnt a complete player like Hedman?

LOL he has a bad defensive season where the whole team was ravished with Covid then played 19 games in 32 nights now all of a sudden he is over-rated.

LMAO, go for a run after you get over covid and see whats thats like, now imagine 19 games in 32 nights.

I'll take the production that he gives on the ice any day which is elite level and historic puck moving , possesion and point producing numbers and hope he can improve the rest of his defensive game at his old age of 21

Hughes

Bridge: 3 yrs - 6.2 mil per
Long Term: 7 yrs- 8 mil per

Petterson

Bridge: 3 years - 7.4 mil per
Long Term: 7 years 9 mil per


Whats most hilarious to me is when people try to clump him in as a "power play speicliast" and thats all.

Even if he is that, which he is not, there isnt just one level of "powerplay specialist"

Hughes would be at the top of that mountain with his elite numbers.

97 pts in 129 regular season games
16 pts in 17 playoff games

 

[TheHelmet]

the comparable is sitting right there in front of their eyes with Dahlin
surprised Vancouver hasn't closed yet

Takes him to 24-25, and if you choose big money long term that contract goes to 33 which is when you want a contract to end.

 

[flying v 604]

Hughes has 1 bad defensive year and he is overrated?
Yet puts up huge offensive numbers.

Did people forget how good he was in the playoffs?, and his 1st season defensively and offensively.

It's sad that people act like children and make these threads a steaming pile of shit. Petey the highest scoring player from his draft while putting up some of the best underlying numbers in hockey to go long with the eye test.
Quinn the ppg scoring from his draft class with 40 less points than Svetch in 78 less games. His poor defensive stats are mostly from the first 19 games last season. Was only a minus ten as a 20-year-old playing top mins on a below average defensive team. Was a -2 in 18 playoff games averaging 25+ mins a night while being a ppg against 3 heavy team's including defending cup champs and previous western conference champs.
But sure focus on one bad stretch
where if you did 5 minutes of checking you would see exactly why he and the whole team took a hit numbers wise.

 

[UrbanImpact]

the comparable is sitting right there in front of their eyes with Dahlin
surprised Vancouver hasn't closed yet

Takes him to 24-25, and if you choose big money long term that contract goes to 33 which is when you want a contract to end.

Word is The Canucks and Hughes were close to a bridge below 6m AAV but the recent Dahlin signing forced a re-negotiation as its a direct comparable.

Would be shocked if neither these guys are not signed by mid week next week.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

3 years 6ish mill like Dahlin type money

Just get that done and worry about it again in 3 years.

Petey... I dunno, Svech type money long term OR 3 years 6-7 per year? .. there are tons of comparables out there to get this done fast

It's important these guys get back asap and get some training camp in

 

[kthx]

I wonder if EP situation ends up like Nylander situation.

 

[Three On Zero]

Never thought Hughes was the issue, it's obvious EP is the one holding up the deals. The kid is one of the best in the game but had a really down year due to injury

 

[TheHelmet]

Word is The Canucks and Hughes were close to a bridge below 6m AAV but the recent Dahlin signing forced a re-negotiation as its a direct comparable.

Would be shocked if neither these guys are not signed by mid week next week.

It just seems weird to me that they haven't closed at a slight higher AAV than Dahlin @ like 6.15 and left the the other $10 million to negotiate with pettersson

 

[UrbanImpact]

It just seems weird to me that they haven't closed at a slight higher AAV than Dahlin @ like 6.15 and left the the other $10 million to negotiate with pettersson

Pat Brisson is a good agent,

He knows the Canucks might be coming into more money by Friday if Hamonic opts out (3milAAV, 6mil total)

I'm sure they are waiting until then to see if they can squeeze more out of the Canucks.

 

[UrbanImpact]

I wonder if EP situation ends up like Nylander situation.

I would bet all the money in the world that EP or Hughes dont miss 1 regular season game.

No way Benning lets that happen in a year where he will be fired if the Canucks dont make the playoffs.