Proposal: Eichel Hypothetical

[cinchronicity]

We are burning a lot of space in other threads on this topic, so I thought I would streamline the process. I may or may not be in favor of this trade, but it absolutely depends on what the offer would have to be. Legit sources seem to say that Buffalo wants:

1) A legit NHL player ( I assume a Center)
2) A pair of prospects
3) Either 2 firsts or a first and a second.

Just as a starting point, how about:

1) Kadri
2) Byram , Kaut
3) 2021 first, 2021 second

Don't shoot the messenger. I've got a half dozen other hypotheticals. I'm just trying to get all the conjecture in one thread.

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[Tommy Shelby]

Not worth it. You need cheap ELCs to compete.

 

[forsbergavs32]

I’d rather use that $10 million or so for Danault + Coleman or something.

 

[RockyMtnRedhawk]

Replace Byram with Newhook, and I'd do it. Throw in Compher too.

 

[The Abusement Park]

1st, 2nd, Newhook, Barron, JTC.

 

[RockyMtnRedhawk]

1st, 2nd, Newhook, Barron, JTC.

Barron and Helleson really are luxuries at this point. I could see one of them being moved in a big trade. They could also be critical ELCs 2-3 years down the road when the Avs are still in a cap crunch. It'll be interesting to see how those assets are utilized.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

I would do this offer. I’d add EJ for cap purposes though.

 

[RockyMtnRedhawk]

I would do this offer. I’d add EJ for cap purposes though.

EJ waived for the purposes of the expansion draft. I don't think that translates to other trades, and I don't think he'd waive for Buffalo.

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

I still don't get it. Yes, Eichel could be an amazing get (if you put aside his back issues). But with the cap-hit he'd receive how do we replace these other players? Kadri is replaced by Eichel with a wayyyyy higher cap-hit, who replaces Byram? Who replaces Landeskog, given we cannot afford Landy and Eichel? Kaut is a cheap plug-in player for the bottom 6, which is exactly what we need if we want to get Eichel. These Eichel trades just don't make sense to me. We cannot afford Eichel and he alone wouldn't be enough to win a cup, so why would we do this?

 

[Balthazar]

Sakic loves cheap contracts and little to no risk.

Draw your own conclusions.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I still don't get it. Yes, Eichel could be an amazing get (if you put aside his back issues). But with the cap-hit he'd receive how do we replace these other players? Kadri is replaced by Eichel with a wayyyyy higher cap-hit, who replaces Byram? Who replaces Landeskog, given we cannot afford Landy and Eichel? Kaut is a cheap plug-in player for the bottom 6, which is exactly what we need if we want to get Eichel. These Eichel trades just don't make sense to me. We cannot afford Eichel and he alone wouldn't be enough to win a cup, so why would we do this?

Because having 2 top 10 C’s hides A TON of weaknesses.

 

[MaKarter]

Eichelthetical proposal.

 

[Ararana]

I'd be willing to do a Newhook package, but not Byram. And I'm only doing Newhook because Eichel essentially replaces his future role on the team.

I've tried running CapFriendly sheets on acquiring Eichel but 10 million is hard to fit it now let alone when MacKinnon is on his new contract. Landeskog walking would make is easier but it's still tight.

 

[CharlesPuck]

no thanks, dude stinks

 

[The Abusement Park]

no thanks, dude stinks

We can put mandatory daily showers as a trade condition

 

[Frenchy]

We can put mandatory daily showers as a trade condition

That's what they did with Kane in Winnipeg and it didnt work

 

[JH21]

I still don't get it. Yes, Eichel could be an amazing get (if you put aside his back issues). But with the cap-hit he'd receive how do we replace these other players? Kadri is replaced by Eichel with a wayyyyy higher cap-hit, who replaces Byram? Who replaces Landeskog, given we cannot afford Landy and Eichel? Kaut is a cheap plug-in player for the bottom 6, which is exactly what we need if we want to get Eichel. These Eichel trades just don't make sense to me. We cannot afford Eichel and he alone wouldn't be enough to win a cup, so why would we do this?

We can afford Eichel.

But not with Kadri and Landeskog.

 

[JH21]

I still don't get it. Yes, Eichel could be an amazing get (if you put aside his back issues). But with the cap-hit he'd receive how do we replace these other players? Kadri is replaced by Eichel with a wayyyyy higher cap-hit, who replaces Byram? Who replaces Landeskog, given we cannot afford Landy and Eichel? Kaut is a cheap plug-in player for the bottom 6, which is exactly what we need if we want to get Eichel. These Eichel trades just don't make sense to me. We cannot afford Eichel and he alone wouldn't be enough to win a cup, so why would we do this?

Girard, Newhook, Kaut and a 1st for Eichel and Ristolainen

Kadri for Paul, Formenton and a 2nd

Resign
Makar 8 x 11.25
Grubauer 6 x 6.5
Saad 4x4
Jost 1 x 25
Timmins 2 x 1.5

Sign
Suter 2 x 1.5

EJ to LTIR

Formenton- Mackinnon- Rantanen
Saad- Eichel- Burakovsky
Nichushkin- Jost- Donskoi
Maltsev- Paul- O'Connor

Toews - Makar
Byram - Ristolainen
Suter - Timmins

Grubauer
Francouz
Johansson

Just under 1m in cap space.

 

[RockyMtnRedhawk]

Girard, Newhook, Kaut and a 1st for Eichel and Ristolainen

Kadri for Paul, Formenton and a 2nd

Resign
Makar 8 x 11.25
Grubauer 6 x 6.5
Saad 4x4
Jost 1 x 25
Timmins 2 x 1.5

Sign
Suter 2 x 1.5

EJ to LTIR

Formenton- Mackinnon- Rantanen
Saad- Eichel- Burakovsky
Nichushkin- Jost- Donskoi
Maltsev- Paul- O'Connor

Toews - Makar
Byram - Ristolainen
Suter - Timmins

Grubauer
Francouz
Johansson

Just under 1m in cap space.

I've already gotten in trouble today for suggesting Formenton in any sort of Kadri trade.

 

[nammerus]

Barron and Helleson really are luxuries at this point. I could see one of them being moved in a big trade. They could also be critical ELCs 2-3 years down the road when the Avs are still in a cap crunch. It'll be interesting to see how those assets are utilized.

This team will not be a contender in 3-4 years. Why do we care what happens after then? Load up as best you can while Mac is 5-6 million $ underpaid.

 

[RockyMtnRedhawk]

This team will not be a contender in 3-4 years. Why do we care what happens after then? Load up as best you can while Mac is 5-6 million $ underpaid.

You think the team won't be a contender when Mack is 29, Mikko is 28, Makar is 26, and Bo is 23? Ok, agree to disagree. I know a lot can happen in 3-4 years, but all four of those players are likely to still be a big part of the core 3-4 years from now.

 

[zxcvnm]

I still don't get it. Yes, Eichel could be an amazing get (if you put aside his back issues). But with the cap-hit he'd receive how do we replace these other players? Kadri is replaced by Eichel with a wayyyyy higher cap-hit, who replaces Byram? Who replaces Landeskog, given we cannot afford Landy and Eichel? Kaut is a cheap plug-in player for the bottom 6, which is exactly what we need if we want to get Eichel. These Eichel trades just don't make sense to me. We cannot afford Eichel and he alone wouldn't be enough to win a cup, so why would we do this?

Not necessarily advocating for it, but the basic idea is to convert an elite first line into two great lines. There is no version of this team with both Landeskog and Eichel. Rather, this would be a team with forward line pairings: Mack-Mikko, Eichel-Burky. Then you fill out the rest of the top six with relatively inexpensive, hardworking, defensive- minded types like Matt Calvert. The issue as I see it is that Eichel is still probably too expensive. Probably someone more in the vicinity of Sebastian Aho (in both talent and cost) would make a ton of sense but obviously that’s not on the table.

 

[tigervixxxen]

No thanks, I’d much rather have Reinhart anyway.

 

[cinchronicity]

No thanks, I’d much rather have Reinhart anyway.

Me too

 

[Richard Doll]

I stopped reading when I saw Byram or Newhook and a huge contract for another 5 years.

I also like playing NHL 21 where you don't have to care what happens to your cap in a cpl years because you probably started a new game anyway.