Confirmed with Link: [EDM/OTT] Tyler Ennis for 2021 5th Round Pick

[The Bored Man]

He has superb hands around the net.

 

[Cloned]

The Oilers don't have an Erik Haula lying around to trade for a Trochek.

Trochek is a bigger gamble than AA. His contract isn't good and his falloff offensively on a decent team is actually much more worrying than AA's falloff on a bad team.

 

[Soundwave]

Trochek is a bigger gamble than AA. His contract isn't good and his falloff offensively on a decent team is actually much more worrying than AA's falloff on a bad team.

It's not even like his numbers are that much better than Haula's either, Haula is scoring at a higher goals per game.

 

[Cloned]

It's not even like his numbers are that much better than Haula's either, Haula is scoring at a higher goals per game.

Trochek might have followed Horcoff's career arc, except compressed into 7 years.

 

[Langdon Alger]

Nice!!


Tennis is a fantastic pickup!!

he’s not bad at hockey either.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Oh THAT, Tyler Ennis. I was getting hits on the basketball player all this time.


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jk, of course, but figured you guys could use a chuckle.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Ennis is having a pretty solid season... last year he was only so-so on the Laffs.

Keep in mind he was on a 29 pt pace playing ~10 minutes per game on that Laffs team in 18/19 where he was obviously getting bottom 6 minutes.

This year he's been on a much worse offensive team in Ottawa where he's playing under 15 minutes per game and on pace for ~44 pts.

Those pts per minute stats are actually fairly consistent which is actually good to see.

1.91 pts/60 this year at 5 on 5 on an offensively weak Ottawa squad.
1.85 pts/60 last year at 5 on 5 on a better Leafs squad (in a lesser sub 10 minutes per game role).

People are going to compare him somewhat to Gagner because that's the forward that was removed from the roster (yes I know not in the same trade)... but same age/same depth winger role etc.

Gagner this season is 1.26 pts/60 at 5 on 5 on a decent offensive Oilers team (certainly better offensively than Ottawa has been).
Last season Gagner was decent in his return to the Oilers getting 1.74 pts/60 at 5 on 5 playing 13.5 minutes per night... in a depth winger role on the team.


Defensively you know Gagner is "ok" at best so Ennis isn't a downgrade there either.

Last season and this season Gagner isn't having what you'd call great defensive performances in terms of his two way game and this year Ennis is actually decent on a stats basis relative to his teammates so I think a small edge to Ennis there defensively as well.

Ennis is a left shot... Gagner right and with injuries you never know which you'll need more of... but overall I think this was an upgrade for the Oilers.


Overall I think having Ennis as an option is an upgrade and certainly the cap hit is cheaper which made him actually able to fit into the roster easily whereas they had to move Gagner to fit in AA.

So yes, this Ennis addition is a smaller net positive for the team than AA and Green but every little bit of improvement helps.

 

[PeakMcOil]

Oh THAT, Tyler Ennis. I was getting hits on the basketball player all this time.


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bah


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jk, of course, but figured you guys could use a chuckle.

Apparently you aren't the only one mixing them up.

NHL's Tyler Ennis: Doctors Mixed Up X-Ray Result with Ex-NBA Player of Same Name

 

[JayE]

Ennis is having a pretty solid season... last year he was only so-so on the Laffs.

Keep in mind he was on a 29 pt pace playing ~10 minutes per game on that Laffs team in 18/19 where he was obviously getting bottom 6 minutes.

This year he's been on a much worse offensive team in Ottawa where he's playing under 15 minutes per game and on pace for ~44 pts.

Those pts per minute stats are actually fairly consistent which is actually good to see.

1.91 pts/60 this year at 5 on 5 on an offensively weak Ottawa squad.
1.85 pts/60 last year at 5 on 5 on a better Leafs squad (in a lesser sub 10 minutes per game role).

People are going to compare him somewhat to Gagner because that's the forward that was removed from the roster (yes I know not in the same trade)... but same age/same depth winger role etc.

Gagner this season is 1.26 pts/60 at 5 on 5 on a decent offensive Oilers team (certainly better offensively than Ottawa has been).
Last season Gagner was decent in his return to the Oilers getting 1.74 pts/60 at 5 on 5 playing 13.5 minutes per night... in a depth winger role on the team.


Defensively you know Gagner is "ok" at best so Ennis isn't a downgrade there either.

Last season and this season Gagner isn't having what you'd call great defensive performances in terms of his two way game and this year Ennis is actually decent on a stats basis relative to his teammates so I think a small edge to Ennis there defensively as well.

Ennis is a left shot... Gagner right and with injuries you never know which you'll need more of... but overall I think this was an upgrade for the Oilers.


Overall I think having Ennis as an option is an upgrade and certainly the cap hit is cheaper which made him actually able to fit into the roster easily whereas they had to move Gagner to fit in AA.

So yes, this Ennis addition is a smaller net positive for the team than AA and Green but every little bit of improvement helps.

I think he's a more significant add than Green. He's a more versatile player than he's getting credit for. The only thing a guy like Gagner has on him would be playmaking ability. Ennis is far better defensively and on the fore-check, as well as being a better goal-scorer. This is still a team with weak winger depth, and I wouldn't be surprised if he emerges as one of the more capable wingers on this team in the next few weeks.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Well I have a pretty big expectation that Green is actually going to be a huge positive for this team... HUGE to a have RHS that can move the puck and be that bomb from the blueline that this team needs more of... so that colours my views as well.

Ennis is a good addition just not as big of a net positive as Green or AA in my view.

Getting AA is like dropping a 60+ pt forward into the lineup so that's huge as well... and his defensive deficiencies are likely overstated as well. He wasn't nearly that poor last year. On a relative basis he was pretty much average on that Detroit team in 18/19 and now in this historically bad year in Detroit he looks like crap defensively... but an offense 1st winger is always going to look ugly when a team is in the crapper that badly and obviously there's 5 other players out there with him on the ice that are contributing to those defensive deficiencies as well.

He's likely a slightly below average defensive player... with above average offensive skills which as a winger, is something a coach can work with.

 

[Bangers]

5th round pick for a cheap UFA playoff rental. Could add scoring to our middle six (or even fit with McDavid), or could be bench fodder.

How is this move complaint-worthy?

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Ennis had a fantastic game. He looked like a top-line winger with McDavid.

He and AA might be the linemates McDavid needs.

 

[guymez]

Ennis had a fantastic game. He looked like a top-line winger with McDavid.

He and AA might be the linemates McDavid needs.

Kassian looks like might have lost his spot on the top line.

 

[LTIR]

Not bad for someone who can't hold Gagner's jock strap.

I suspect Drivesaitl may be updating / deleting some his posts in this thread in a few days.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

Player 1
15-35-50 in 61 GP
- 16 in 61 GP
AAV of $6M

Player 2
15-20-35 in 62 GP
- 3 in 62 GP
AAV of $800K

Player 1 was traded for 3 prospects, a 2020 1st, and a 2021 3rd.

Player 2 was traded for a 2021 5th.

Both are UFAs after this season.

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Player 1
15-35-50 in 61 GP
- 16 in 61 GP
AAV of $6M

Player 2
15-20-35 in 62 GP
- 3 in 62 GP
AAV of $800K

Player 1 was traded for 3 prospects, a 2020 1st, and a 2021 3rd.

Player 2 was traded for a 2021 5th.

Both are UFAs after this season.

Player 1
8-17-25 in 63 GP
-7 in 63 GP
AAV of $925K
1 year left

Player 2
15-20-35 in 62 GP
-3 in 62 GP
AAV of $800K
UFA this year

Player 1 was traded for a 2020 1st, Player 2 was traded for a 2021 5th.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

Player 1
8-17-25 in 63 GP
-7 in 63 GP
AAV of $925K
1 year left

Player 2
15-20-35 in 62 GP
-3 in 62 GP
AAV of $800K
UFA this year

Player 1 was traded for a 2020 1st, Player 2 was traded for a 2021 5th.

How the f*** Did I End Up Here: The Barclay Goodrow Story

 

[Cloned]

Player 1
8-17-25 in 63 GP
-7 in 63 GP
AAV of $925K
1 year left

Player 2
15-20-35 in 62 GP
-3 in 62 GP
AAV of $800K
UFA this year

Player 1 was traded for a 2020 1st, Player 2 was traded for a 2021 5th.

That's because Brisebois is a idiot and caved to Doug Wilson at the last minute. He's going to sewer the Lightning within 5 years if this keeps up.

 

[Fourier]

That's because Brisebois is a idiot and caved to Doug Wilson at the last minute. He's going to sewer the Lightning within 5 years if this keeps up.

That trade is pure lunacy. Who gives up a first for a guy who is 27 years old with a career high of 24 points?

 

[Drivesaitl]

Not bad for someone who can't hold Gagner's jock strap.

I suspect Drivesaitl may be updating / deleting some his posts in this thread in a few days.

Nah, I acknowledged before the game my error in judgement. Thus my slogan change below my Avatar which I changed hours prior to the game.

I'm emotionally stupid, everybody knows that, just how it get out stuff when feeling frustrated. So I'll flail away and comeback later being of more sound mind. At least temporarily.

I have no trouble taking the piss out of myself. I don't mind doing it.

I was weeeeerong, I was wereeeewerong as Fonzie said.

Before I die I'd like to be less reactive. But its how I'm built.

That said my comment in relation to Gagner was in terms of pts production, and to make that point the unsung Gagner has as much NHL pts production as AA and Ennis combined. Now I'm not saying that in relation to present value, but more in terms of how devalued Gagner often was here.

The only post I would think of deleting is this one because it gives so much ammunition. But I'll let it stand.

 

[LTIR]

Nah, I acknowledged before the game my error in judgement. Thus my slogan change below my Avatar which I changed hours prior to the game.

I'm emotionally stupid, everybody knows that, just how it get out stuff when feeling frustrated. So I'll flail away and comeback later being of more sound mind. At least temporarily.

I have no trouble taking the piss out of myself. I don't mind doing it.

I was weeeeerong, I was wereeeewerong as Fonzie said.

Before I die I'd like to be less reactive. But its how I'm built.

That said my comment in relation to Gagner was in terms of pts production, and to make that point the unsung Gagner has as much NHL pts production as AA and Ennis combined. Now I'm not saying that in relation to present value, but more in terms of how devalued Gagner often was here.

The only post I would think of deleting is this one because it gives so much ammunition. But I'll let it stand.

Respect!

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

This is the 2nd best trade of the year for Holland (after getting Lucic off the damned team). Ennis is so much better and so much more effective of a player then I thought. What a great add to the depth of this team.

 

[JBear]

His play that setup AA's goal was beauty. Rushing wide past the D and tight dangles in close... Colour me impressed. Bodes well for the future.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Respect!

Thanks. I'm a doofus sometimes. How could I not like this guy I'm thinking last night. His favorite player is Doug Weight and he always wanted to be an Oiler. Seems like such a nice kid and he's got taste.

 

[guymez]

Ennis had a very good game last night.
It will be interesting to see how much of that was due to him being hyper amped up on adrenaline.