Proposal: Dylan Strome (+) for Anthony Mantha

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Mantha for Dach, 1:1, fair value to both teams?

Det. isn't adding, that's for sure. Dach is a nice piece, but still young & unproven.

Yzerman loves character...I read last summer, that when he interviewed Dach & 1st question was "So, I heard you smoke weed?" (more of a statement though). We don't need partyboys on our squad, we got enough problems.

Dach+2nd for Mantha & (Chi) cap dump, 1yr, <$4.5M seems ~fair, but I wouldn't do it as a Det. fan, Mantha's #'s, including advanced stats over the last 80gp+ have been elite.

 

[rhef3]

Now Detroit is adding.

Oh, i'm sure they would be, and detroit has draft capitol

 

[Pia8988]

Mantha for Dach, 1:1, fair value to both teams?

Det. isn't adding, that's for sure. Dach is a nice piece, but still young & unproven.

Yzerman loves character...I read last summer, that when he interviewed Dach & 1st question was "So, I heard you smoke weed?" (more of a statement though). We don't need partyboys on our squad, we got enough problems.

Dach+2nd for Mantha & (Chi) cap dump, 1yr, <$4.5M seems ~fair, but I wouldn't do it as a Det. fan, Mantha's #'s, including advanced stats over the last 80gp+ have been elite.

No. It isn't even close. It's even farther apart when you factor in Dach is exempt from the expansion draft. Dach is going to be an absolute animal when he gets to his NHL size.

 

[TheDachKnight]

Mantha for Dach, 1:1, fair value to both teams?

Det. isn't adding, that's for sure. Dach is a nice piece, but still young & unproven.

Yzerman loves character...I read last summer, that when he interviewed Dach & 1st question was "So, I heard you smoke weed?" (more of a statement though). We don't need partyboys on our squad, we got enough problems.

Dach+2nd for Mantha & (Chi) cap dump, 1yr, <$4.5M seems ~fair, but I wouldn't do it as a Det. fan, Mantha's #'s, including advanced stats over the last 80gp+ have been elite.

Dach is untouchable barring a massive overpayment. Mantha straight up is not that overpayment.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Dach is untouchable barring a massive overpayment. Mantha straight up is not that overpayment.

& Vice Versa, Mantha for overpayment or nothing. Guess neither team approves 1:1, which is understandable from both POV's.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

No. It isn't even close. It's even farther apart when you factor in Dach is exempt from the expansion draft. Dach is going to be an absolute animal when he gets to his NHL size.

Possibly, but nobody can make that definitive statement...yet.

 

[Ishad]

No to Strome. We really like Mantha and we want to see what we have in Veleno and Ras before making a trade.

As for Mantha for Dach, lol we would be adding a ton.

 

[thesaadfather]

Mantha for Dach, 1:1, fair value to both teams?

Det. isn't adding, that's for sure. Dach is a nice piece, but still young & unproven.

Yzerman loves character...I read last summer, that when he interviewed Dach & 1st question was "So, I heard you smoke weed?" (more of a statement though). We don't need partyboys on our squad, we got enough problems.

Dach+2nd for Mantha & (Chi) cap dump, 1yr, <$4.5M seems ~fair, but I wouldn't do it as a Det. fan, Mantha's #'s, including advanced stats over the last 80gp+ have been elite.

No, not happening.

 

[TheDachKnight]

& Vice Versa, Mantha for overpayment or nothing. Guess neither team approves 1:1, which is understandable from both POV's.

Is there interest in Strome for something else? Mantha doesn’t work, but you guys could use a young 2C.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

No, not happening.

refer to post #30

 

[BlueBaron]

What would be needed in the add in your opinion

That is tough to answer. I don't see them trading Mantha.

When you look at a rebuilding team like the Red Wings if I am GM I of course want to give you as little as possible.

A quick glance at CapFriendly shows me they have 2 D under contract with 1 RFA, so they arent offering a D and no wants those goalies.

Glendening might be a useful asset they could part with. I doubt they want to move any of the 25 and under guys

What they do have is draft picks. So I might start with something around Washington's 2nd rounder. I'm not sure if his value is much higher (I'm not really a trade proposal guy) than that but you have a few older throw in forwards they could add, and retain on in some cases, that might be useful to Chicago.

Another angle to look at it might be what Cap dumps could Detroit take? That might be the way to go.

 

[Oddbob]

BARF to Dylan Strome for Mantha! The plus would have to be significant as not convinced Dylan Strome is anything more than just an ok 2nd/3rd liner.

 

[TheDachKnight]

That is tough to answer. I don't see them trading Mantha.

When you look at a rebuilding team like the Red Wings if I am GM I of course want to give you as little as possible.

A quick glance at CapFriendly shows me they have 2 D under contract with 1 RFA, so they arent offering a D and no wants those goalies.

Glendening might be a useful asset they could part with. I doubt they want to move any of the 25 and under guys

What they do have is draft picks. So I might start with something around Washington's 2nd rounder. I'm not sure if his value is much higher (I'm not really a trade proposal guy) than that but you have a few older throw in forwards they could add, and retain on in some cases, that might be useful to Chicago.

Another angle to look at it might be what Cap dumps could Detroit take? That might be the way to go.

His value is higher than a 2nd. I’d say at least a late 1st and a good prospect. Seabrook would be the cap dump we’d want to get rid of. I completely understand if that’s a non-starter. Aside from that, if no young players are involved, there isn’t likely a deal to be made between our two teams for Strome.

 

[Oddbob]

His value is higher than a 2nd. I’d say at least a late 1st and a good prospect. Seabrook would be the cap dump we’d want to get rid of. I completely understand if that’s a non-starter. Aside from that, if no young players are involved, there isn’t likely a deal to be made between our two teams for Strome.

Blue Baron isn't a Wings fan. Seabrook would be doable, but the price would have to be so uncomfortable that the Hawks don't even want to touch it.

 

[TheDachKnight]

Blue Baron isn't a Wings fan. Seabrook would be doable, but the price would have to be so uncomfortable that the Hawks don't even want to touch it.

I completely didn’t read him referring to the Wings as them. But yeah, that’s pretty much what I figured with regards to Seabrook. I think the most I’d do to get rid of him is Strome, Beaudin, and Seabrook for a late pick. His contract sucks, but I’d rather just sit on that contract for the next few years or at least until a buyout or trade becomes more palatable than mortgage the future for cap space.

 

[BlueBaron]

His value is higher than a 2nd. I’d say at least a late 1st and a good prospect. Seabrook would be the cap dump we’d want to get rid of. I completely understand if that’s a non-starter. Aside from that, if no young players are involved, there isn’t likely a deal to be made between our two teams for Strome.

I don't really have a horse in the race, I just observed Strome seemed like a nice #2 C for them but knew Mantha was too much to ask.

 

[HOPE]

redwings fan thinking Dach for Mantha 1 on 1 is fair. LOL.

 

[Mick Jagr]

Mantha will be a Red Wing for at least the next 7-8 years IMO. At 25 years old, he's one key piece you can still build around. He'll be slightly older when the Wings are a real team, but he'll still be in his prime. No need to move him, especially when you have nothing but cap space to play with.

I do agree that the Wings need to look for a good 2 C option though. Long term, Fabbri makes a better winger and Fiippula isn't getting any younger. Could Joe Veleno eventually be that guy?

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

redwings fan thinking Dach for Mantha 1 on 1 is fair. LOL.

Re-read it: "Mantha for Dach, 1:1, fair value to both teams?" ...Trying to gauge the trade value perception of the board. There's not one to be made, both teams value their piece, as they should. Although 1 is virtually unproven (Dach), so if anything, give your head a good shake, sit in the corner & reflect on what you've said. Time out for you.

Also, MTL will never win a cup with Price & Weber. In fact, the Red Wings will likely win 1 before MTL does lol.

 

[TLEH]

Not sure where Dach is virtually unproven.

 

[Chayos]

Absolutely would not trade Strome + Beaudin for Mantha

And Strome for Kunin??? Is Minnesota adding 9th overall??

Keep undervaluing Strome...

Strome won’t get you a top 10 pick let alone add in Kunin.

 

[Chayos]

Possibly, but nobody can make that definitive statement...yet.

I just watched that kid in the Edm series and he is right, that kid is going to be a monster when he fills out.

 

[Jamie Winston]

Redwing fans thinking they can get Dach for Mantha (large amounts of laughing emojis)

 

[TCNorthstars]

& Vice Versa, Mantha for overpayment or nothing. Guess neither team approves 1:1, which is understandable from both POV's.

Detroit would trade Mantha 1:1 for Dach in the blink of an eye. Don’t kid yourself. It would take a lot more tban Mantha.

 

[TS Quint]

From the start I disagree That Strome has a higher upside than Mantha. Mantha is also a rare commodity in that he drives play from the wing which throws the brain dead HF narrative that “Centres have more value than wingers 100%of the time”.

In my opinion Mantha is better than Strome in every way and he makes everyone he plays with better as well.