Confirmed with Link: Ducks sign Leo Carlsson to ELC (3 years, $950k AAV)

[Gliff]

It's still unconfirmed

Those are just placeholder numbers until they confirm the contract.

Good calls

The Zegras and Terry contracts have had me uneasy this summer. Not even worried about adding another D. I want them to be at least 6 year contracts and no bridges or short contracts.

Hopefully gets done soon. We know Terry’s arbitration date is aug 2nd.

It’s like what’s to debate? Terry and Z produced on a team with bad coaching and a poor system with no depth. Give them their money!

Doesn't that take Z to UFA? I would rather have a bridge then take him right to UFA.

 

[DavidBL]

The Zegras and Terry contracts have had me uneasy this summer. Not even worried about adding another D. I want them to be at least 6 year contracts and no bridges or short contracts.

Hopefully gets done soon. We know Terry’s arbitration date is aug 2nd.

It’s like what’s to debate? Terry and Z produced on a team with bad coaching and a poor system with no depth. Give them their money!

I wouldn't be surprised by a 6 year Terry deal and a bridge for
Z

Good calls


Doesn't that take Z to UFA? I would rather have a bridge then take him right to UFA.

I believe a 4 year deal takes z to UFA. It's 27 or 7 years of service. Since we got all 3 years of ELC essentially on the NHL roster I don't think it slid any years to the point of him being 5 years from UFA.

 

[Leonardo87]

I wouldn't be surprised by a 6 year Terry deal and a bridge for
Z

If he bridges Z won’t be happy.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

 

[DavidBL]

If he bridges Z won’t be happy.

Nor would I but it's what they did with Kucherov. I don't like it as it puts him close to UFA and if we haven't made significant strides by then we risk him forcing his way out.

 

[Leonardo87]

Nor would I but it's what they did with Kucherov. I don't like it as it puts him close to UFA and if we haven't made significant strides by then we risk him forcing his way out.

That is what I fear and also with the cap going up, I really think this kid once we bring in the support is going to be a PPG player, will cost us a lot more for a new deal. I’d rather lock him up 8 years, around 7.5 to 8 million similar to what his peers got.

Anyway don’t want to keep talking Z in the Leo thread. I really hope Leo is with the Ducks next season but if they feel he is not ready then it’s all good.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

Love the trolling lol

 

[KelVarnsen]

Very excited about him. Hopefully he does his 9 and then back to the SHL

No. Hopefully after 9 games it is obvious he belongs in the NHL becasse of his play and he stays to help the team.

 

[MMC]

 

[MMC]

 

[Rybread86]

NVM: MMC beat me to it

 

[Leonardo87]

Love the trolling lol

That person obviously has never heard of a ELC before.

 

[KelVarnsen]

That person obviously has never heard of a ELC before.

I think he is sarcastically making fun of irrational Ducks fans.

 

[Leonardo87]

I think he is sarcastically making fun of irrational Ducks fans.

Ahh Twitter. Lol.

 

[ADHB]

It's a common "joke" reply on twitter. Goes back years. If you look at the replies when guys sign ELC's or whatever, you'll likely find some version of that several times. It's not specific to the Ducks.

 

[duckpuck]

If he bridges Z won’t be happy.

I think there a very good chance the opposite is true;. My thought is the hold up is because Z wants a bridge and the ducks want term.

With the cap going up, any confident guy (which Z clearly is) would want a bridge deal so he can negotiate a new deal when cap (and salaries) go up in 18 months. Similar logic to the top UFA who have signed 1 and 2 year deals.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I think he is sarcastically making fun of irrational Ducks fans.

Citing Bob instead of PV was another clue it was sarcastic. heh

 

[Ducks DVM]

Leo!!!

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This is gonna be a thing, isn’t it

 

[Leonardo87]

This is gonna be a thing, isn’t it

 

[Mr Rogers]

I feel like he'll start with the Ducks, unless he looks awful in preseason, and they'll make a decision during those 9 games

 

[cheesymc]

Ultimately, if there was an option on the table to trade down with CBJ, from a fans perspective Verbeek went with the least satisfying option. Ranking from best case to worst:

1. We get Carlsson + additional asset. Best case scenario for our organization with the team getting the player they rated highest with a free bonus, likely another draft pick or picks. As a fan, I would be satisfied with that outcome knowing we got who we wanted plus added value for taking non consensus pick.

2. We get Fantilli + additional asset. As a fan, we would be happiest picking the consensus best player, a guy who brings more intensity, speed, and bite. Organizationally, we would be happy since it sounds like they were extremely close in ratings, with the scouts favoring hockey sense and playmaking, and Verbeek preferring Leo developing another year in the SHL extend the tank another year and avoiding potentially stunting the prospects development.

3. Worst case for Duck fans who believe in consensus rankings and fearing we past on the better player, and maybe another Tkachuk-type impact player. We won’t know if the best option could have happened if we had a skilled negotiator or seasoned GM capable in reading or getting insights to who CBJ were planning on taking, or even get that information outright. Because this is the result we will always go back to what-ifs especially if Leo doesn’t live up to expectations, which are now higher since we passed on the consensus pick.

 

[Bergey37]

Ultimately, if there was an option on the table to trade down with CBJ, from a fans perspective Verbeek went with the least satisfying option. Ranking from best case to worst:

1. We get Carlsson + additional asset. Best case scenario for our organization with the team getting the player they rated highest with a free bonus, likely another draft pick or picks. As a fan, I would be satisfied with that outcome knowing we got who we wanted plus added value for taking non consensus pick.

2. We get Fantilli + additional asset. As a fan, we would be happiest picking the consensus best player, a guy who brings more intensity, speed, and bite. Organizationally, we would be happy since it sounds like they were extremely close in ratings, with the scouts favoring hockey sense and playmaking, and Verbeek preferring Leo developing another year in the SHL extend the tank another year and avoiding potentially stunting the prospects development.

3. Worst case for Duck fans who believe in consensus rankings and fearing we past on the better player, and maybe another Tkachuk-type impact player. We won’t know if the best option could have happened if we had a skilled negotiator or seasoned GM capable in reading or getting insights to who CBJ were planning on taking, or even get that information outright. Because this is the result we will always go back to what-ifs especially if Leo doesn’t live up to expectations, which are now higher since we passed on the consensus pick.

Verbeek went with the option that ASSURED him that he gets the player he wanted, pure and simple; and it was the right thing to do.

 

[Dryish]

As a Finn, I have to express my disgust at having yet another Swede under contract for the team. Gross.

Welcome to the team, Leo.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

As a Finn, I have to express my disgust at having yet another Swede under contract for the team. Gross.

Welcome to the team, Leo.

I was pulling for Halttunen to be our first 2nd round pick.

 

[Lord Flashheart]

Typical soft Verbeek signing? Asking for a friend.