GDT: Duck Duck Goose | Anaheim Ducks @ Carolina Hurricanes | 7:00 PM | PNC Arena

[Boom Boom Apathy]

First period was tough to watch. I know they have to play a conservative, defensive game with this line-up, but they were losing almost every battle for the puck. Not surprising though, that Ducks team is big and physical, and they wanted to come out strong after the effort in Tampa. If they ever find their special teams, they are going to be a tough team for anybody to win a 7 game series with. The Blues and Ducks would be a knock-down, drag-out fight. The pace picked up some in the 2nd though and there were a few stretches of some fun hockey to watch.

I'll echo what HtCH said about Jordan as he was a great last night. That's also the best I've seen Bowman play, although I was about to scream at him for missing the net on that one and seconds later he scores. Peters also played great and really has a lot of confidence right now. I realize the team defense has been much better, but it's hard to believe this is the same Peters.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Also, re: Terry. IMO, as long as he continues to score in the shoot-out, you keep a spot for him. About 1/3rd of the Canes games this year have gone to OT/Shootout (6/19) and 2/3rd's of their games (and EVERY win) have been a 1 goal game. With the lack of scoring and the style of play the Canes are using, I suspect we'll continue to see about 1/3rd of their games going to OT/shoot-out.

They HAVE to be at least competent in shoot-outs or they'll be just giving away points to teams they can't afford to give them to and will just miss out on the playoffs.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

Who are you keeping out of the lineup for Terry, though? It can easily be argued that other players contribute more to actual hockey and thus make less likely for a game to go to a shootout. Ruutu hasn't been great but he's been playing with disastrous linemates and his skillset will be more useful when Skinner isn't back and he doesn't have to play with two 4th liners/AHLers. Dvorak can kill penalties and forecheck and stuff. Terry is pretty much a noncontributor in terms of the 65 minutes before a shootout. I also think it's very unlikely for the team to continue to go to OT once every three games. The team's shooting percentage is absolutely terrible and will almost certainly get better.

 

[jstaal]

yup

I hate the fact that we've become such a boring team to watch.

Boring, after beating 3 top teams in the west, real boring

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Terry has had more scoring chances since his callup than Ruutu has. And that's without getting the PP time Ruutu does

 

[Anton Babchuk]

Terry has had more scoring chances since his callup than Ruutu has. And that's without getting the PP time Ruutu does

Terry has received 4:33 of powerplay time since his call-up. Ruutu has received 3:59 in that timespan.

#factchecked #owned #camwardohilitereelsave

 

[Unsustainable]

Did the Semin shot hit Eric in the shaft?

Phrasing

 

[DougieSmash]

Jordan is such a man beast. He was plowing through Ryan Getzlaf and Dustin Penner like they were AHL'ers when they tried to wedge him on the boards. When he's roaring down at full tilt, you can either give him the ice and try to block his passing lanes or maybe slow him down but give him the rest of the ice. If Getzlaf can't stop him....

You can see why the Hockey News/Daddy Staal thought he was the best...he has unrivaled strength and speed as a package. It's insane. Brandon Sutter isn't even in the same stratosphere.

You really prefer that overpaid third liner over our homegrown eliter shutdown center Brandon Sutter and Brian Dumoulin?

 

[DougieSmash]

Tlusty- EStaal- Semin
Gerbe- JStaal- Dwyer
Skinner- Nash- Ruutu
Bowman- Malhotra- Dvorak

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Terry has received 4:33 of powerplay time since his call-up. Ruutu has received 3:59 in that timespan.

#factchecked #owned #camwardohilitereelsave

And if we were to ignore the ice time that Ruutu got before Terry's callup, you totally would have me.

But frankly, that stat supports what I've said. Terry's become more of a threat to score (or be part of a scoring chance) than Ruutu and he's being rewarded for it.

Ruutu's caphit is the only reason he shouldn't be scratched when Skinner returns. And at some point, production should be more important than caphit.

 

[Ole Gil]

And if we were to ignore the ice time that Ruutu got before Terry's callup, you totally would have me.

But frankly, that stat supports what I've said. Terry's become more of a threat to score (or be part of a scoring chance) than Ruutu and he's being rewarded for it.

Ruutu's caphit is the only reason he shouldn't be scratched when Skinner returns. And at some point, production should be more important than caphit.

They have different roles. The guy who's job it is to shoot from the slot is going to have more scoring chances than the corner guy/screen the goalie guy by design. (although Terry is getting 1.5 shots per game, compared to Skinner who was getting 3.6 in the same role)

The two (ruutu/terry) aren't really even in competition for the same spot.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

It should also be noted that Ruutu has scored 9 goals on 22 career shootout attempts. That's 40.9% compared to Terry's AHL percentage of 42.1%. Yes, I know, Ruutu hasn't taken a shot in two years, but still....

 

[Anton Babchuk]

And if we were to ignore the ice time that Ruutu got before Terry's callup, you totally would have me.

But frankly, that stat supports what I've said. Terry's become more of a threat to score (or be part of a scoring chance) than Ruutu and he's being rewarded for it.

Ruutu's caphit is the only reason he shouldn't be scratched when Skinner returns. And at some point, production should be more important than caphit.

You clearly noted that it was "since his call up". #backpedaling #iamriteurwrong

Also, the stats really don't support what you're saying as Ruutu was on the first PP unit last game and Terry the second. They were also practicing with the same units prior to the Minnesota game but never got powerplay until 30 seconds left in the game.

ITT: Hurricanes fans overrate AHL player due to small sample size part 9,750

 

[PaulProteus]

Boring, after beating 3 top teams in the west, real boring

Exactly. I missed the Avs game, but these have been anything but boring from the stands.

 

[What the Faulk]

Terry said he used the same move as the previous game. I really don't anticipate that having continued success if he doesn't mix it up.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Terry said he used the same move as the previous game. I really don't anticipate that having continued success if he doesn't mix it up.

True. He even said something like "I guess Fasth didn't watch the video". So I have to imagine he'll keep using that move until it doesn't work, at which point, he'll probably switch it up.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

If Terry only has 1 move (which I know is unlikely) and if/when he is no longer successful in the shootout, then his usefulness to the team will be reduced. But honestly, I'm not too concerned about having to replace Terry with someone yet, as that would need to mean the Canes are fully healthy in forwards. Skinner's not back yet, Dvorak is nursing something obviously and he and Malhotra are getting up there in age, Ruutu has to stay healthy, etc.. Until they recall Lindholm, I think the chances of all of them staying healthy for an extended period isn't very high.

When/if they do become healthy, then Terry will likely be the odd man out regardless. Someone else better step it up in the shootout though, or this team is going to lose a lot of points given the style they play.

 

[tarheelhockey]

True. He even said something like "I guess Fasth didn't watch the video". So I have to imagine he'll keep using that move until it doesn't work, at which point, he'll probably switch it up.

You know, it's funny he should say that. After the Wild shootout, Parise basically said they had a book on Peters and knew he would bite on the fake. I assumed the same would be in store for him last night, but the Ducks shooters took fairly direct shots into him rather than trying to fake him out.

Kind of funny to see the difference in shootout preparation between the two teams.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

You know, it's funny he should say that. After the Wild shootout, Parise basically said they had a book on Peters and knew he would bite on the fake. I assumed the same would be in store for him last night, but the Ducks shooters took fairly direct shots into him rather than trying to fake him out.

Kind of funny to see the difference in shootout preparation between the two teams.

Yeah, I was thinking about that last night also. Then I thought, maybe it was preparation and maybe it was just that whoever had told the Wild shooters that had seen a lot of Peters somewhere before and was just familiar with him. Still though, after hearing about it in the news from the Wild players, you would think someone from the Ducks would have picked up on it.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

So, in other news, I think the Bowman-Malhotra-Dvorak/Anyone that's not Westgarth line is our best fourth line we've had in awhile.

Bowman's actually looked useful in the last couple of games.

 

[garnetpalmetto]

So, in other news, I think the Bowman-Malhotra-Dvorak/Anyone that's not Westgarth line is our best fourth line we've had in awhile.

Bowman's actually looked useful in the last couple of games.

Someone remind me, Scotty and the River Rats - were they a third or fourth line?

 

[Anton Babchuk]

Someone remind me, Scotty and the River Rats - were they a third or fourth line?

They were the third line. The 4th line at that point was Brookbank-Letowski-Conboy IIRC

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

They were the third line. The 4th line at that point was Brookbank-Letowski-Conboy IIRC

"Grit."

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Malhotra may be the smartest pickup the Canes have made in a long time.

Not only has he helped the team tremendously this season, as well as bring some real veteran presence to a team that needs it, he's passing that knowledge to our younger players.

I know his influence on Bowman's been discussed a lot, but I remember reading an article in the N&O recently about how much him and Brindamour have been working with Nash on his faceoffs as well.

 

[Vagrant]

The book on Peters is to hit the net with the shot and if you do, you're likely to score. The first shot save was pretty fortunate in the sense that it didn't trickle through. The second save was just a missed net in which Peters was beaten. I try not to diminish what a player does, especially at such a difficult position, but Peters' shootout acumen is ....non-existent.