Dougie Hamilton v Rasmus Ristolainen
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Hamilton.
Ristolainen is the kind of player a bunch of people have convinced themselves Hamilton is.
Ristolainen is the kind of player a bunch of people have convinced themselves Hamilton is.
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Don't be an ass because he doesn't play for your team any more. Hamilton is not dumb. Far from it.
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Never liked Hamilton defensively when he was on the Flames. Didn't like that he didn't hit. Didn't like the stupid mistakes he took. Didn't like the stupid penalties he took. If he didn't have the ability to score he would have been playing on the 3rd line. When it came to defense Hamilton was dumb.
Look, this was strictly a poll between Hamilton and Ristolainen. Both these guys are equally talented when it comes to offense. That leaves the decision to be made on how they play defense. IMO Ristolainen is dumber than Hamilton when it comes to the defensive aspect of the position.
Its my opinion.... don't get your panties in a knot and start calling me an ass because you disagree witth me.
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DFF
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He is an offensive dman. Not good at defense doesn't mean he is dumb. If that is your standard then Johnny is a very dumb player
BTW, did you trash Hamilton when he was a flames? I don't remember many flames fans did after his rough start.
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No Johnny isn't dumb as his primary responsibility isn't defense and when I say dumb I mean someone who makes more than their fair share of boners. The way I look at it with d-men, is that their primary responsibility is to play good defense, move the puck, and provide good outlet passes. Any offense that they provide is gravy.
And no I didn't trash Hamilton on this board when he was a Flame, the same way I never trashed Brodie for the last 2 years. I just don't usually do that. I just trashed Hamilton at home watching him play. Also his defensive faults, to a large extent, were covered up by having a great defensive partner. Without Giordano as Hamilton's partner I suspect I would have been yelling at the tv a lot more.
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Nobody really trashed Hamilton until he was traded and then everyone turned on him.
Hamilton isn’t all that smart of a player though. Gaudreau is one of the smarter players in the league.
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It's not close because since we've never seen Hamilton play minutes anywhere near as tough, we can obviously assume he'd be good at it if he only got the chance.
I've said it many times, will say it again here: There might be ~5 defensemen in the NHL who could play the role Risto has over the last several years on the kind of teams he has and find a high level of success doing it. It's hardly a slight against Risto that he's not one of them. HF seems to have convinced itself that since he's not an elite #1, he must be terrible. Reality is he's a good player who's been asked to do too much on teams that have been really, really bad. And we've seen incremental improvements as his playing situation has gotten better (e.g., better "advanced" stats when he got upgraded from Gorges to a partner who actually plays NHL level defense). I think his best games this season have been the ones in which Housley has relied the heaviest on Dahlin. Calling my shot now: Once Dahlin becomes the guy who can play those minutes every game, Ristolainen is going to settle into the role he was meant for all along, and HF will be absolutely blown away by how Risto suddenly learned how to play hockey.
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Hamilton easily but the funny part is that here we have two guys whose advanced stats are in different extremes and neither is exactly truthful.
