Dominant NHL "C" - Ovechkin

[francaisvolantsparis]

Last five years we saw many good team captains. But who is the Captain of all captains? Whos team won most games? Who is respected by all teammates and feared by All opponents? Who motivates every teammate to give 200% on ice? Who is strong and classy? Who pass on the NHL AllStar game to be ready for his team games? Who is unmatched in his role? Who is by very far the most charismatic player in NHL?

Alex Ovechkin is.

2014-2019	Team	Games won
1	Washington Capitals	265
2	Tampa Bay Lightning	259
3	Pittsburgh Penguins	249
4	Nashville Predators	236
5	Anaheim Ducks	230
6	St. Louis Blues	223
7	San Jose Sharks	221
8	New York Rangers	216
9	Chicago Blackhawks	212

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Your thoughts?

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[Tavares to Marner]

Best player of this generation, Best captain of this generation

 

[Honour Over Glory]

This should end well.

I think the NHL has a very accomplished Captain in the game right now, it's just not the dude you're pumping up in this thread.

 

[nowhereman]

 

[Sol]

This should end well.

I think the NHL has a very accomplished Captain in the game right now, it's just not the dude you're pumping up in this thread.

 

[francaisvolantsparis]

 

[Honour Over Glory]

How many playoff wins did this fearless leader lead his team to?

 

[francaisvolantsparis]

How many playoff wins did this fearless leader lead his team to?

With or without Malkin ?

 

[Plural]

Ovechkin is a good leader. So is Sid. Let's leave it at that.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

With or without Malkin ?

Are Ovechkin's with or without Backstrom and Kuznetsov?

 

[JoVel]

This isn't a shot against Ovi but there's a lot more to being a good captain than to happening to be in a good team.

 

[Sol]

Are Ovechkin's with or without Backstrom and Kuznetsov?

Are you comparing Malkin to Backstrom? lol.

Ovechkin and Crosby are both generational players. Doesn't change the fact that Ovechkin is more impressive.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Are you comparing Malkin to Backstrom? lol.

Ovechkin and Crosby are both generational players. Doesn't change the fact that Ovechkin is more impressive.

The only thing you got right here is that Crosby and Ovechkin are generational, the rest, you're so wrong about, I see this thread is not going to land well with any sort of coherent rationalization.

 

[nowhereman]

Are you comparing Malkin to Backstrom? lol.

Ovechkin and Crosby are both generational players. Doesn't change the fact that Ovechkin is more impressive.

How many President's Trophies do the Capitals have to win before people actually admit Ovechkin plays on a stacked team?

 

[Sol]

The only thing you got right here is that Crosby and Ovechkin are generational, the rest, you're so wrong about, I see this thread is not going to land well with any sort of coherent rationalization.

Irony.

 

[Sol]

How many President's Trophies do the Capitals have to win before people actually admit Ovechkin plays on a stacked team?

Yeah because having malkin your entire career arguably top 3 center for many years was such a hindrance to a guy playing on a stacked team as well. Poor Crosby.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Irony.

I don't think you understand that. Because not only is the premise of this entire thread hilariously wrong, you seem to think it's so dead on accurate and right that you seem to be ignoring actual facts and stats that would say otherwise.

No one will refute Ovechkin is one of the greatest goal scorers in the league, but when it comes to something like determining the best leader in the game, you look at a guy that has also captained outside of the NHL and inside of the NHL as well as the playoffs and then you get a clearer picture.

Coming up with excuses to make your straw man argument stronger, is weak.

Yeah because having malkin your entire career arguably top 3 center for many years was such a hindrance to a guy playing on a stacked team as well. Poor Crosby.

And having a top 5 center as your center and then another young top 5 center is so hard. Underselling how good Backstrom and Kuznetsov is to pump up Ovechkin is a pathetic thing to do.

 

[Sol]

I don't think you understand that. Because not only is the premise of this entire thread hilariously wrong, you seem to think it's so dead on accurate and right that you seem to be ignoring actual facts and stats that would say otherwise.

No one will refute Ovechkin is one of the greatest goal scorers in the league, but when it comes to something like determining the best leader in the game, you look at a guy that has also captained outside of the NHL and inside of the NHL as well as the playoffs and then you get a clearer picture.

Coming up with excuses to make your straw man argument stronger, is weak.

So... You mean when Crosby was playing on a stacked Canadian team to be a clear indicator of him being a better leader.. Lol okay.

Like the fact that you're being unbiased btw.

 

[Revelation]

How many President's Trophies do the Capitals have to win before people actually admit Ovechkin plays on a stacked team?

If Crosby can't win presidents trophies with his supporting cast that says a lot more about him than Ovechkin.

Capitals with Crosby instead of Ovechkin are a bubble team if that

 

[Honour Over Glory]

So... You mean when Crosby was playing on a stacked Canadian team to be a clear indicator of him being a better leader.. Lol okay.

Oh the irony...

 

[Sol]

Oh the irony...

Oh yeah. The one team tourney is so comparable to the NHL.. Nice.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

If Crosby can't win presidents trophies with his supporting cast that says a lot more about him than Ovechkin.

Capitals with Crosby instead of Ovechkin are a bubble team if that

So wait, what does it mean that a President Trophy-less Crosby led Penguins has 3 cups under Crosby's leadership vs 1 cup under the multiple President Trophy winning Ovechkin-led Capitals?

 

[nowhereman]

If Crosby can't win presidents trophies with his supporting cast that says a lot more about him than Ovechkin.

Capitals with Crosby instead of Ovechkin are a bubble team if that

Just when I thought HFBoards had plumbed the depths of human stupidity, someone posts something like this.

I suppose I have only myself to blame, as I'm not sure what I expected out of a Crosby vs. Ovechkin thread.

 

[daver]

Last five years we saw many good team captains. But who is the Captain of all captains? Whos team won most games? Who is respected by all teammates and feared by All opponents? Who motivates every teammate to give 200% on ice? Who is strong and classy? Who pass on the NHL AllStar game to be ready for his team games? Who is unmatched in his role? Who is by very far the most charismatic player in NHL?

Alex Ovechkin is.

2014-2019	Team	Games won
1	Washington Capitals	265
2	Tampa Bay Lightning	259
3	Pittsburgh Penguins	249
4	Nashville Predators	236
5	Anaheim Ducks	230
6	St. Louis Blues	223
7	San Jose Sharks	221
8	New York Rangers	216
9	Chicago Blackhawks	212

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Your thoughts?

My thoughts are your numbers are off.

NHL.com - Stats

Bolts - 269
Caps - 267
Pens - 261

Add in playoff wins:

Pens - 307
Caps - 303

There is your answer.

 

[francaisvolantsparis]

My thoughts are your numbers are off.

NHL.com - Stats

Bolts - 269
Caps - 267
Pens - 261

Add in playoff wins:

Pens - 307
Caps - 303

There is your answer.

2014-2019 mean 2014-2015 to 1018-2019 seasons and not 2014 t0 2019 entire years. Otherwise 2019 make no sense. And you actually asked nhl.com to calculate the 2013-2019 stats. This is my answer.