Yeah sure he ‘might’ I mean he never has in the past and he’s not on pace to do so this year either but anything is possible....lol
Nice bump. Leafs fans trying to deflect when they spent all summer pumping their overrated players LOL
There's nothing to deflect. The Leafs as of now have all but locked up a playoff spot and are threatening to be 10 games over 500 tonight. Speaking of over rated how are the Flames and their "best defense in the NHL" doing?Nice bump. Leafs fans trying to deflect when they spent all summer pumping their overrated players LOL
It's rather astonishing that absolutely no one from the Leafs fan base was even willing to consider the possibility of Nylander not improving this year on his rookie season performance, production wise.
Before the season began, I said multiple times that there was a concrete possibility of at least one, if not two, of the three rookies seeing lower points totals (the only one that I couldn't see having less points of the three was Matthews). General scorn ensued because it was "too much talent" for them not to all improve on their rookie season totals, I was told in unison.
It's only barely over half a season, but so far 2 out of the 3 are on pace for lower totals. Even more significant if one considers that production is way up this year (an incredible amount of players are ppg or more).
Still lots of time to ramp up production, but all those Leafs fans ridiculing posters disagreeing with the certainty that Nylander and Marner would see even higher totals, should take a humble pill.
You know a player is overrated when people get mad at you for predicting a 57 point sophomore season. Like that’s first line production, what’s the problem?
It's rather astonishing that absolutely no one from the Leafs fan base was even willing to consider the possibility of Nylander not improving this year on his rookie season performance, production wise.
Before the season began, I said multiple times that there was a concrete possibility of at least one, if not two, of the three rookies seeing lower points totals (the only one that I couldn't see having less points of the three was Matthews). General scorn ensued because it was "too much talent" for them not to all improve on their rookie season totals, I was told in unison.
It's only barely over half a season, but so far 2 out of the 3 are on pace for lower totals. Even more significant if one considers that production is way up this year (an incredible amount of players are ppg or more).
Still lots of time to ramp up production, but all those Leafs fans ridiculing posters disagreeing with the certainty that Nylander and Marner would see even higher totals, should take a humble pill.
Nice bump. Leafs fans trying to deflect when they spent all summer pumping their overrated players LOL
It's rather astonishing that absolutely no one from the Leafs fan base was even willing to consider the possibility of Nylander not improving this year on his rookie season performance, production wise.
Before the season began, I said multiple times that there was a concrete possibility of at least one, if not two, of the three rookies seeing lower points totals (the only one that I couldn't see having less points of the three was Matthews). General scorn ensued because it was "too much talent" for them not to all improve on their rookie season totals, I was told in unison.
It's only barely over half a season, but so far 2 out of the 3 are on pace for lower totals. Even more significant if one considers that production is way up this year (an incredible amount of players are ppg or more).
Still lots of time to ramp up production, but all those Leafs fans ridiculing posters disagreeing with the certainty that Nylander and Marner would see even higher totals, should take a humble pill.
Dude made a fair prediction and you felt the need to ridicule him.The irony in an Oilers fan coming in to a predictions thread and picking out people that got....shocker predictions wrong. After the **** show that was the Oiler hype before the season is absolutely hilarious.
There was literally nothing tangible you could point to that suggested any sort of regression from Nylander or any of the Leafs blue chip. Sophomore slumps happen on occasion but shouldn’t be expected. Nylander has expedited som rotten puck luck during the first part of this year, nothing more.
You’re just patting yourself on the back for making a lucky guess.
Edit: grammar
I did the exact same thing. I said that statistically speaking it's likely that at least one of the three has lower sophomore totals. I was attacked by several guys making fun of me how I don't understand hockey.
Some of these aged quite well.. LOL
Not exactly true.
I said MULTIPLE TIMES that it was more likely than not (= not guaranteed, but better chance of happening than not) for at least one, maybe two of the three rookies to see lower points, because their rookie season was THAT high (60+ points for a rookie is no joke) and therefore I thought it was the safest bet to see a lower production for at least one of the three, if not two.
As of NOW, Nylander 0.70 ppg vs 0.75 last season... Marner 0.68 ppg vs 0.79 last season = confirmed. Furthermore, if one takes into account the kind of year the NHL is seeing (points production way up), it's even more so.
I also pointed out to the crowd that was predicting 70+ points for Nylander (and Marner) of which you see many in this very thread, that predicting 70+ points for all them rookies was probably wishful thinking, seeing that in 16-17 there 19 70+ points player, so roughly 0.61 per team, never mind 3. That was enough for an immediate "Leafs hater" moniker, of course, because trying to gauge what is more likely than not means hating something / someone.
So, as you see, it's not exactly out of thin air (and even if it was, what's the problem? A win is a win is a win).
A stopped clock is right twice a day.
People call you a Leafs hater because you turn up in a bunch of threads about the Leafs and gloat about how our young players are doing badly. Congratulations on predicting that some of our guys might slump, and right you are, Marner and Nylander have slumped. They slumped in November and now at the halfway point you're clearly so, so right in your predictions, they're on pace to undershoot their point totals by three or four points! The part about their actual talent still being elite is apparently beside the point. Never mind that they each have 10 points in their last 10 games. Never mind that their shooting numbers have been unsustainably low. You're turning up to gloat about how you were right about our guys getting a few less points, when you have admitted that was based on nothing to do with the players themselves. You've thrown poop at the wall and are proud that some of it is sticking.
If I turned up in every Boston Bruins thread and started banging a drum about how probably two out of three of Pastrnak, McAvoy, and Heinen were going to regress next year and backed it up with no facts, evidence, or anything other than "lots of guys regress", I'd bet that Bruins fans would get pretty sick of my shtick. If they did regress (because I got lucky) and I made sure to rub their faces in it at every opportunity you'd probably write a similar post to what I'm writing now. You get called a "hater" because you make negative assumptions and make zero attempts at analysis, context, or justifications for why the results may be the way they are. Extend some of the courtesies to the Leafs players that you would afford your own players and you may find the dialogue improves.
Not exactly true.
I said MULTIPLE TIMES that it was more likely than not (= not guaranteed, but better chance of happening than not) for at least one, maybe two of the three rookies to see lower points, because their rookie season was THAT high (60+ points for a rookie is no joke) and therefore I thought it was the safest bet to see a lower production for at least one of the three, if not two.
As of NOW, Nylander 0.70 ppg vs 0.75 last season... Marner 0.68 ppg vs 0.79 last season = confirmed. Furthermore, if one takes into account the kind of year the NHL is seeing (points production way up), it's even more so.
I also pointed out to the crowd that was predicting 70+ points for Nylander (and Marner) of which you see many in this very thread, that predicting 70+ points for all them rookies was probably wishful thinking, seeing that in 16-17 there 19 70+ points player, so roughly 0.61 per team, never mind 3. That was enough for an immediate "Leafs hater" moniker, of course, because trying to gauge what is more likely than not means hating something / someone.
So, as you see, it's not exactly out of thin air (and even if it was, what's the problem? A win is a win is a win).
Exactly. The bolded phrase brings me back to those conversations.
Feeling a bit of vindication after tar & feathers does feel good to me. I bet it does to you too.
The HF wheel of I Told You So will never stop turning. If Nylander tears it up the rest of the year or next, we'll see some Leafs fans being equally obnoxious and bumping threads like some of the folks in here.
Easiest thing is just to realize that everyone is terrible and things will never change. Then place the most terrible of said terrible people on ignore.
What's Bae on pace for now?
A stopped clock is right twice a day.
People call you a Leafs hater because you turn up in a bunch of threads about the Leafs and gloat about how our young players are doing badly. Congratulations on predicting that some of our guys might slump, and right you are, Marner and Nylander have slumped. They slumped in November and now at the halfway point you're clearly so, so right in your predictions, they're on pace to undershoot their point totals by three or four points! The part about their actual talent still being elite is apparently beside the point. Never mind that they each have 10 points in their last 10 games. Never mind that their shooting numbers have been unsustainably low. You're turning up to gloat about how you were right about our guys getting a few less points, when you have admitted that was based on nothing to do with the players themselves. You've thrown poop at the wall and are proud that some of it is sticking.
If I turned up in every Boston Bruins thread and started banging a drum about how probably two out of three of Pastrnak, McAvoy, and Heinen were going to regress next year and backed it up with no facts, evidence, or anything other than "lots of guys regress", I'd bet that Bruins fans would get pretty sick of my shtick. If they did regress (because I got lucky) and I made sure to rub their faces in it at every opportunity you'd probably write a similar post to what I'm writing now. You get called a "hater" because you make negative assumptions and make zero attempts at analysis, context, or justifications for why the results may be the way they are. Extend some of the courtesies to the Leafs players that you would afford your own players and you may find the dialogue improves.
In those very same threads he was referring to, I said I thought that Pastrnak would be around 60-65 points instead of 70. He is on pace for 80. I was wrong.Yeah, and posters like him and McDavidkissedlarkin think they’ve never been wrong on a prediction before when, for instance, I can almost guarantee the latter thought Edmonton was a Cup contender this season.
ANd again, there was nothing tangible prior to the start of this season that suggested this would happen.... Nylander’s production was high because hes a bluechip prospect, all of the underlying numbers suggested his scoring pace last season was sustainable. Further, his overall production got hampered by a Cold streak last Nov/Dec, so if anything the tangible evidence suggested improving his scoring pace this season.
Following your logic you could have flipped a coin and made the same decision as you did.