Weekes: Does the Capitals move of Vitek Vanecek opens the door for John Gibson to Washington?

[LesDiablesRouges]

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[GirardSpinorama]

I think they look at a veteran like Kuemper or Campbell.

 

[Duck Off]

I think they'll sign Kuemper.

 

[Roshi]

Sure.. but dont think thats whats cooking.

If they were to go for Gibson it would make more sense to trade Samsonov instead of Vanecek, and you’d figure the 1st this year would have been part of the trade package.

Its either UFA signing or experienced 1A tandem goalie like Varlamov/Talbot/Allen.

 

[CraigsList]

Why would Gibson go to DC with Samsonov already there?

 

[crazy8888]

Why would Gibson go to DC with Samsonov already there?

Because samsonov is not ready to be #1. Maybe not be ready for few more years. May never be ready

 

[Mr Rogers]

What would DC realistically have to move? I think Verbeek starts with McMichael for sure, doubt the Caps would want to go there with Backstrom aging

 

[kanucks25]

What would DC realistically have to move? I think Verbeek starts with McMichael for sure, doubt the Caps would want to go there with Backstrom aging

Unless Iorio+ is being traded for Miller to replace Backy.

 

[Khelandros]

So who is being moved out not only for the cap space required for Gibson but also that Anaheim would want as part of the package?

 

[HockeyVirus]

Weekes is saying every team who needs a goalie should trade for Gibson. He has sources but has had a lot of misses as well, and speculates a lot which comes off as legit rumors.

 

[OV Rocks]

So who is being moved out not only for the cap space required for Gibson but also that Anaheim would want as part of the package?

GMBM just had a press conference where he said they can add the cap space right now.

 

[BlueOil]

is there a rumor the caps aren't involved in?

 

[Hivemind]

is there a rumor the caps aren't involved in?

Considering they have $17M in LTIR relief and another $9M in actual cap space to play with, a clear opening at starting goalie, and a pretty presumptive opening at 2C with Backstrom's injury status - they are going to be linked to basically every goalie and center on the market for good reason.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Weekes has been working his ass off to get Gibson traded. LoL

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

What would DC realistically have to move? I think Verbeek starts with McMichael for sure, doubt the Caps would want to go there with Backstrom aging

Maybe that's the ask but there's no chance McMichael is moved for Gibson. Backstrom is out, probably for the season and maybe forever, and McMichael is likely their 2C of the future (and present) unless they get someone else via trade or free agency.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Maybe that's the ask but there's no chance McMichael is moved for Gibson. Backstrom is out, probably for the season and maybe forever, and McMichael is likely their 2C of the future (and present) unless they get someone else via trade or free agency.

There’s no way Verbeek does it without him either. Don’t think the two teams would be able to make this one work honestly

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

There’s no way Verbeek does it without him either. Don’t think the two teams would be able to make this one work honestly

Understandable. Not trading for Gibson is what most Washington fans want so that would be ok with us.

 

[Duck Off]

Weekes is saying every team who needs a goalie should trade for Gibson. He has sources but has had a lot of misses as well, and speculates a lot which comes off as legit rumors.

Everything I've heard him say about this topic seems more opinionated rather than rumors. I know he was pretty adamant that Toronto was making a big mistake for not paying what it took to get him. He didn't say anything about actual rumors though; just speculation.

 

[Hivemind]

There’s no way Verbeek does it without him either. Don’t think the two teams would be able to make this one work honestly

Getting a player like McMichael for your salary dump of a goaltender is an absurd ask. Ducks will have to pay to offload that contract.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Getting a player like McMichael for your salary dump of a goaltender is an absurd ask. Ducks will have to pay to offload that contract.

What would you trade for him, then? It sounds like you expect to get him for almost nothing lol.

McMichael has a career high of 18 points as it stands. It’s more than reasonable for a goalie like a Gibson. As I said above, I totally get them not wanting to make that move, but the ask is fine.

 

[Hivemind]

What would you trade for him, then?

I wouldn't.

McMichael has a career high of 18 points as it stands. It’s more than reasonable for a goalie like a Gibson. As I said above, I totally get them not wanting to make that move, but the ask is fine.

Judging McMichael based off his rookie year point totals as a 20 year old is some pretty terrible asset evaluation. He was barely played by a coach who only played younger players when injuries forced him to. He got zero powerplay time. Yet he was still a highly effective play driver in the minutes he did get, and all of his underlying metrics were superb. He's a great prospect, not a throw-in for an over-the-hill goalie.

 

[OV Rocks]

Ok easy Caps fans. I don't want to lose McMichael either, and I honestly don't think Gibson costs that much. Lapierre is the prospect I would move.

1st, Lapierre, and Eller is what the offer will look like

 

[Mr Rogers]

I wouldn't.


Judging McMichael based off his rookie year point totals as a 20 year old is some pretty terrible asset evaluation. He was barely played by a coach who only played younger players when injuries forced him to. He got zero powerplay time. Yet he was still a highly effective play driver in the minutes he did get, and all of his underlying metrics were superb. He's a great prospect, not a throw-in for an over-the-hill goalie.

I’d be fine with 1 for 1. In no way is that a “throw-in.” It’s the exact opposite of one actually.

 

[StephenPeat]

There’s no way Verbeek does it without him either. Don’t think the two teams would be able to make this one work honestly

If you’ve seen Gibson’s stats over the past little while, you’ll realize there’s plenty of reason he WILL do it without McMichael, here’s a hint, it’s because he’ll have to.

I’d be fine with 1 for 1. In no way is that a “throw-in.” It’s the exact opposite of one actually.

Aim lower, think a 2023 Caps 1st. That’s about as high as they’re going to go.

 

[Hivemind]

1st, Lapierre, and Eller is what the offer will look like

Helllllll no.

I’d be fine with 1 for 1. In no way is that a “throw-in.” It’s the exact opposite of one actually.

Still would massively favor Anaheim. Why are the Caps giving up a high-ceiling, recent first round pick on an ELC for a goalie that has sucked the past three years on a terrible contract?