I'd rather he be a construction worker or indian.
I would really like to see him exhibit some huge, hairy danglers and stop being everybody's surrogate mommy. Fire somebody!, make a deal without having hot cocoa and good cry with that player. Start fixing some things. He doesn't need to be a Paul Holmgren level of reckless a-hole, but, come on, hurt some feelings, step on a neck. Being a risk averse ninny clearly hasn't worked.
I'm sorry, what? We can't give Shero credit for Neal because he traded a player that was drafted by Patrick for him? Does that mean we can't give Craig Patrick any credit for the Francis and Samuelsson trade, either?
If Shero won "Patrick's Cup", then how many players on the Cup Winning team do you think were acquired by Shero vs Patrick? Did you know that over half of that team had been acquired by Shero?
Staal, Kunitz, Guerin, Sykora, Satan, Cooke, Dupuis, Fedotenko, Adams, Boucher, Eaton, Gill, and Garon were all brought in by Shero. And those are just the significant names.
The players left over from Patrick were: Crosby, Malkin, Kennedy, Talbot, Orpik, Letang, Scuderi, Gonchar, Goligoski and Fleury. And Goligoski basically didn't play in the '09 playoffs. That's 10 players, including Goligoski.
Yes, those include some of the best players on the team, but if the contention is that they only won the Cup because of those players, well, most of those guys are still Penguins, so how the previous success belongs to Patrick and the current "failures" belong to Shero, I can't really follow.
Oh, and for the record, here is how Craig Patrick built a team in his last year:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0000502006.html
He came out of the lockout and signed washed-up LeClair, washed up Thibault, and soon-to-retire Palffy. The only good signings he made out of the lockout were Gonchar and Recchi.
He thought Lasse Pirjeta, Tomas Surovy and Shane Endicott were NHL players.
Oh, and take a look at Patrick's drafts from 1995 through 2003. This is the guy who went into the 2003 draft and came out with Ryan Stone and Jonathan Filewich from the second and third rounds. (Some of the players drafted after Stone, in particular, are simply painful to look at from a "what if?" perspective).
The bolded part is kind of my point, the guys on the Shero list you have there (save kunitz) are all bottom 6 fodder or severely declining former top 6ers that are no longer on the team anyway. Shero has yet to build a quality core of his own, with a big ol' Shero stamp on it. This collective pile of hot trash is all Ray. By no means am I a Craig Patrick ball-washer, his time had come, but the truth is Ray Shero has yet to build anything of value around the embarassment of riches left at his feet. On top of that, he allows his "special needs" head coach get away with murder on a nightly basis.
Maybe like 5-10% more cowboy. Even then it's more me wanting the Shero that built the 2008, 2009 teams back than anything. More than anything I want him separated from Bylsma, they're a bad combination.
I don't want a Cowboy, but I wish - and maybe this has changed since he said it - he was more hands on. The coach should be allowed to use the players how he wishes, until his wishes are dumb, nonsensical, and actively hurting the team.
Other than drafting forwards once every decade, it'd be nice if Shero would jump in Bylsma's or the team's ass once in a while. You can tell with the same **** going on over and over again, the country club is in full effect...just par for the course.
It really is a country club again and we have a coach who cant coach in big pressure games. Cup in 2009 with a hybrid Therrien system but ever since then its been choke after choke.
That guy was a pretty good GM.
This is what leads me to believe Shero just has blind faith in Bylsma. Shero lets Bylsma play the players he wants and how he wants and doesn't demand better from Bylsma after he keeps falling flat on his face. Shero got rid of Therrien's favorite guy Michel Ouellet, but he won't send Bilbo Gibbons back to the AHL or waive Craig Adams. It's like ever since 2009 Shero has been soft and has been more of a buddy than a boss.
Or maybe Chuck Fletcher was a good foil for Shero, like Fitzie and maybe Yeo were for Bylsma, and both now are surrounded by 'yes' men.
Or maybe Chuck Fletcher was a good foil for Shero, like Fitzie and maybe Yeo were for Bylsma, and both now are surrounded by 'yes' men.
I heard Mark Madden the other day - He mentioned that if he was the GM and we had another playoff failure no one on the team or coaching staff would be safe apart from #87.. No that im advocating everything that comes out of that guys mouth but after the fadeouts and a team who cant get up for big games and constantly outcoached, im kind of starting to agree.
I think it's a bit of this, him and Bylsma have too strong of a bond and it's impaired Shero's judgment.
No, that's true. But, I was thinking more in the context of Shero's management style. I wonder if Fletcher was less of a yes man and more of an honest foil. I've always thought Fitzie and even Yeo were that for Bylsma before he got his hand picked stooges.
Probably why Jacques Martin is being minimized. He's not a "yes man" and Shero doesn't want to upset Bylsma by telling him to start leaning on Martin more.