Discussion: Who were the best 10 players 1900-1905?
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For that very specific timeframe, Russel Bowie, Frank McGee and Hod Stuart would appear to be the best players.
However, that period comprises nearly the entirety of the careers of the last two (it's a bit more complicated than that, I know).
However, that period comprises nearly the entirety of the careers of the last two (it's a bit more complicated than that, I know).
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He was the player I had in mind when making the second comment. There's a discussion to be had regarding where Philips rank vs McGee and Stuart in the grand scheme of things (my hunch would be McGee > Philips > Stuart), but if we're to keep it strictly to 1900-1905, there's absolutely none.
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What this point hints at, is the wave of talent that hit just as this period ended. Players that came into high-level hockey around 1904 include the Patrick brothers, Art Ross, Moose Johnson, Tommy Dunderdale, and a handful of other HHOF types. The list gets a lot longer within the next 5 years.
And a big part of why that next generation looks so much stronger, is their staying power. A bunch of guys with 10-20 year careers, so their career profiles look dramatically stronger than those of the 1900-05 crew. I’ll hazard an opinion that this is mainly due to the youngest players benefitting from full careers in pro hockey, but it may not be entirely that simple.
I look at this 5-year span as an interesting transition period — the guys who peaked here would just miss the opportunity for professional play (and therefore a long career) but I have to think they were significantly better trained and more focused on hockey than the generation immediately before them.
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I don't think Jimmy Gardner was anything special as an actual player. I think he's in the HHOF partly because of off ice things like co-founding Les Canadiens and coaching, and partly because Little Men of Iron sounds cool. I think the big star of the Montreal AAA at the onset of the 20th century was Archie Hooper. I think Gardner was pretty much a glue guy with decent offensive upside on those teams, Pud Glass or Cecil Blachford style.
Fred Lake was a left winger until 1908 and Jack Marshall was a center up until the latter half of his career.
Straight offense Billy Breen & Herb Jordan came along at the second half of the 1900–1905 window, and perhaps Lorne Campbell.
Fred Lake was a left winger until 1908 and Jack Marshall was a center up until the latter half of his career.
Straight offense Billy Breen & Herb Jordan came along at the second half of the 1900–1905 window, and perhaps Lorne Campbell.
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This is again bit of info dump, but quickly tried to gather most of the All-Star team selections that I have from this time period. All of them are from very end of this time period. So guys who were just getting started at that point looks better. And always need to be bit cautios with these selections.
First is from All-Star game between East and West Toronto teams at the end of 1903-1904 season. Not much can be taken out of it. Lot of names that went to have great career. Many that went to IPHL first. As a small notion Pete Maltman who apparently was regarded All-Star in Toronto went later to IPHL and was pretty much the weakest goalie in the league. Shows the class that they had in goalies.
Toronto All-Star Game
East Goal:Giroux Point:Charlton Cover Point:Ardagh Forwards: Chadwick, Hynes, Phillips, Forrester
West Goal:Maltman Point:Brown Cover Point:Twaits Forwards: Preston, Munn, Taylor, Peel
Next is the often referred 1905 All-Star team
Montreal Gazette Feb 17 1905
The Toronto News published Eastern Hockey All-Star team. It was made by "Montreal man"
Goal: Paddy Moran, Quebec Point:Harvey Pulford, Ottawa Coverpoint:Arthur Moore, Ottawa Rover:Russel Bowie, Victorias Center:Frank McGee, Ottawa Left Wing:Blair Russell, Victorias Right Wing:Billy Gilmour, Ottawa
"When it came to the selection of our greatest defence players, a kein debate might be aroused," says the writer making the choice. "Perhaps the defence of the Ottawa Stanley Cup holders is the best of the ice today, and the men in front of the goalkeeper are: Pulford, point and Moore, Cover point. Both strapping big men they do not use boarding-school methods to handle the enemy as it sweeps down upon them. Pulford is a poor skater. That is his only weakness. But opposing teams fear him, as they fear no man on the ice, and Pulford´s strenuous work in the defence of his goal net has earned him the endearing title of "Butcher".
"Moore can also accomplish a little body-checking on occasions. He, too, is no gentle lamb, and many a forward can show black and blue marks decerating his anatomy to prove it.
I haven´t find the original source for this. So I do not know who and where this selection was made. It was mentioned in New York Tribune. I am not entirely certain how they assigned the positions. It is easy to guess that they probably did not count players playing in IPHL (even the name is All-Canadian.
New York Tribune 21 March 1905
All-Star Canadian team
Goal: Paddy Moran, Quebec Point:Harvey Pulford, Ottawa Coverpoint:Si Griffis, Rat Portage Center?:Russel Bowie, Victorias Center:Frank McGee, Ottawa Right Wing?:Blair Russell, Victorias Right Wing:Tommy Phillips, Rat Portage
Next one is All Montreal team from the same season. I guess you can take it from here that Art Ross yet hadn´t make a big name for himself.
The Ottawa Journal 15 March 1905
All-Montreal team selected by two sportsman. The paragraph is opinion of the Ottawa Journal sportwriter.
Sportsman 1
Goal:Oswald Waugh, Montreals Point:"Turkey" Bellingham, Victorias Coverpoint: Dickie Boon, Wanderers Rover:Russel Bowie, Victorias Center:Grover Sargent, Montreals Left Wing:Blair Russell, Victorias Right Wing:Cess Blachford, Wanderers
Sportsman 2
Goal:Oswald Waugh, Montreals Point:W.Strachan (Billy) Wanderers, Coverpoint:Lester Patrick, Westmount Rover:Russel Bowie, Victorias Center:Grover Sargent, Montreals Left Wing:Blair Russell, Victorias Right Wing:Cess Blachford, Wanderers
To compete with the speedy westerners the local defence men would have to be speedy and good rushers. Lester Patrick and Dicky Boon souwl probably be suitable for the defence, as both have plenty of speed and can rush well.
And then there is lot of IPHL All-Star selections. Probably the most underrated league of history. First selection was made early in the season. Others were late season selections. And with these there need to give bias warning.
What I can take from it is that there seemed to be pretty much consensus that Hod Stuart was the best Cover Point in league. Ken Mallen and Doc Gibson (who I could consider best Defence players of this time period) got lot of attention. This doesn´t look that good for Lorne Campbell who I agree is overall underrated. Also this seems to be in line what I have read about goaltending. There wasn´t clear consensus about who was best goalie in US. At this point between Chief Jones and Riley Hern.
Manitoba Morning Free Press 9 Jan 1905
"American" selects his All-American team
Goal:Chief Jones, Mich. Soo Point: Doc Gibson, Houghton Cover Point:Hod Stuart, Calumet Rover:Eddie Roberts, Pittsburg Center:Bruce Stuart, Pittsburg Soo Righ Wing: Haddo Black, Houghton Left Wing:Fred Lake, Houghton
These are from research made by Daniel Scott Mason
Soo Evening news had readers voting All-Star selection from IPHL in spring of 1905
Goal:Chief Jones, Mich. Soo Point:Roy Brown, Can Soo Cover Point:Hod Stuart, Calumet Rover:Ken Mallen, Calumet Center: Didier Pitre, Mich. Soo Righ Wing: Jack Laviolette, Mich Soo Left Wing:Frank Sweitzer Mich Soo.
Calumet Evening News had fans/readers voting All-American team.
Goal:Riley Hern, Houghton Point: Doc Gibson, Houghton Cover Point:Hod Stuart, Calumet Rover:Ken Mallen, Calumet Center:Fred Strike, Calumet Righ Wing: Jack Laviolette, Mich Soo Left Wing:Jimmy Gardner, Calumet
Pittsburgh Times Sport Editor Pat.S.Egan selected his All-Star team.
Goal:Jack Winchester Pittsburgh Point: Doc Gibson, Houghton Cover Point:Hod Stuart, Calumet Rover:Ken Mallen, Calumet Center:Arthur Sixsmith Pittsburg Righ Wing: Charles Liffiton, Houghton Left Wing:Jimmy Gardner, Calumet
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First is from All-Star game between East and West Toronto teams at the end of 1903-1904 season. Not much can be taken out of it. Lot of names that went to have great career. Many that went to IPHL first. As a small notion Pete Maltman who apparently was regarded All-Star in Toronto went later to IPHL and was pretty much the weakest goalie in the league. Shows the class that they had in goalies.
Toronto All-Star Game
East Goal:Giroux Point:Charlton Cover Point:Ardagh Forwards: Chadwick, Hynes, Phillips, Forrester
West Goal:Maltman Point:Brown Cover Point:Twaits Forwards: Preston, Munn, Taylor, Peel
Next is the often referred 1905 All-Star team
Montreal Gazette Feb 17 1905
The Toronto News published Eastern Hockey All-Star team. It was made by "Montreal man"
Goal: Paddy Moran, Quebec Point:Harvey Pulford, Ottawa Coverpoint:Arthur Moore, Ottawa Rover:Russel Bowie, Victorias Center:Frank McGee, Ottawa Left Wing:Blair Russell, Victorias Right Wing:Billy Gilmour, Ottawa
"When it came to the selection of our greatest defence players, a kein debate might be aroused," says the writer making the choice. "Perhaps the defence of the Ottawa Stanley Cup holders is the best of the ice today, and the men in front of the goalkeeper are: Pulford, point and Moore, Cover point. Both strapping big men they do not use boarding-school methods to handle the enemy as it sweeps down upon them. Pulford is a poor skater. That is his only weakness. But opposing teams fear him, as they fear no man on the ice, and Pulford´s strenuous work in the defence of his goal net has earned him the endearing title of "Butcher".
"Moore can also accomplish a little body-checking on occasions. He, too, is no gentle lamb, and many a forward can show black and blue marks decerating his anatomy to prove it.
I haven´t find the original source for this. So I do not know who and where this selection was made. It was mentioned in New York Tribune. I am not entirely certain how they assigned the positions. It is easy to guess that they probably did not count players playing in IPHL (even the name is All-Canadian.
New York Tribune 21 March 1905
All-Star Canadian team
Goal: Paddy Moran, Quebec Point:Harvey Pulford, Ottawa Coverpoint:Si Griffis, Rat Portage Center?:Russel Bowie, Victorias Center:Frank McGee, Ottawa Right Wing?:Blair Russell, Victorias Right Wing:Tommy Phillips, Rat Portage
Next one is All Montreal team from the same season. I guess you can take it from here that Art Ross yet hadn´t make a big name for himself.
The Ottawa Journal 15 March 1905
All-Montreal team selected by two sportsman. The paragraph is opinion of the Ottawa Journal sportwriter.
Sportsman 1
Goal:Oswald Waugh, Montreals Point:"Turkey" Bellingham, Victorias Coverpoint: Dickie Boon, Wanderers Rover:Russel Bowie, Victorias Center:Grover Sargent, Montreals Left Wing:Blair Russell, Victorias Right Wing:Cess Blachford, Wanderers
Sportsman 2
Goal:Oswald Waugh, Montreals Point:W.Strachan (Billy) Wanderers, Coverpoint:Lester Patrick, Westmount Rover:Russel Bowie, Victorias Center:Grover Sargent, Montreals Left Wing:Blair Russell, Victorias Right Wing:Cess Blachford, Wanderers
To compete with the speedy westerners the local defence men would have to be speedy and good rushers. Lester Patrick and Dicky Boon souwl probably be suitable for the defence, as both have plenty of speed and can rush well.
And then there is lot of IPHL All-Star selections. Probably the most underrated league of history. First selection was made early in the season. Others were late season selections. And with these there need to give bias warning.
What I can take from it is that there seemed to be pretty much consensus that Hod Stuart was the best Cover Point in league. Ken Mallen and Doc Gibson (who I could consider best Defence players of this time period) got lot of attention. This doesn´t look that good for Lorne Campbell who I agree is overall underrated. Also this seems to be in line what I have read about goaltending. There wasn´t clear consensus about who was best goalie in US. At this point between Chief Jones and Riley Hern.
Manitoba Morning Free Press 9 Jan 1905
"American" selects his All-American team
Goal:Chief Jones, Mich. Soo Point: Doc Gibson, Houghton Cover Point:Hod Stuart, Calumet Rover:Eddie Roberts, Pittsburg Center:Bruce Stuart, Pittsburg Soo Righ Wing: Haddo Black, Houghton Left Wing:Fred Lake, Houghton
These are from research made by Daniel Scott Mason
Soo Evening news had readers voting All-Star selection from IPHL in spring of 1905
Goal:Chief Jones, Mich. Soo Point:Roy Brown, Can Soo Cover Point:Hod Stuart, Calumet Rover:Ken Mallen, Calumet Center: Didier Pitre, Mich. Soo Righ Wing: Jack Laviolette, Mich Soo Left Wing:Frank Sweitzer Mich Soo.
Calumet Evening News had fans/readers voting All-American team.
Goal:Riley Hern, Houghton Point: Doc Gibson, Houghton Cover Point:Hod Stuart, Calumet Rover:Ken Mallen, Calumet Center:Fred Strike, Calumet Righ Wing: Jack Laviolette, Mich Soo Left Wing:Jimmy Gardner, Calumet
Pittsburgh Times Sport Editor Pat.S.Egan selected his All-Star team.
Goal:Jack Winchester Pittsburgh Point: Doc Gibson, Houghton Cover Point:Hod Stuart, Calumet Rover:Ken Mallen, Calumet Center:Arthur Sixsmith Pittsburg Righ Wing: Charles Liffiton, Houghton Left Wing:Jimmy Gardner, Calumet
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Out of goalies yeah its hard. Bouse Hutton was goaltender of dynasty. It wasnt easy to find lot of significant stuff out of him. He was great Lacrosse goalie and I would say atleast very good hockey goalie. I would still probably rank Paddy Moran in front of him even from this time period even he distinguished himself only in last few seasons. I have some doubts about the class of the goalies that played in eastern big leagues, but I post it later. Here are some of the things I gathered from Bouse Hutton years ago because his bio doesnt seem to have that much stuff. Its not much but it is something.
The Ottawa Journal 30. Jan 1900
"Hutton, in the Ottawa flags´is certainly a star
This is from 1903 if I remember correct. I have lost the date
In a hockey game a goal tend´s position is not an enviable one. He is seldom credited with any share of a victory, but in case of a defeat is sure to get more than his own share. It was when Ottawa was playing four men to Montreal´s seven that Hutton´s nerve stood him in good sread and enabled him on two occasions to save apparently impossible situations. And his good judgement was all the more apparent at this crisis because Montreal by poor judgement failed to take advantage of the absence on the side of both Pulford and Spittal to make a combined attack....
From a Stanley Cup challenge against Marlboros
The Ottawa Citizen 24. Feb 1904
Hutton distinquished himself by his work before the nets. In fact his performance last night stamps him as a marvel in the position and the Marlboro team attribute their defeat to his clever stopping more tan any other cause
The Winnipeg Tribune 30. Dec 1905
Bouse Hutton of Ottawa a former member of the Stanley Cup holders, and one of the best goal-keepers that has ever played on a Canadian hockey team may coach the St. John hockeyist this winter..
The Ottawa Citizen 15. Mar 1905
Bouse Hutton is another who must not be forgotten. He helped to bring the Stanley cup to Ottawa and to defend it until the present year and should not be overlooked when remembering the men of the famous Ottawa team.
And few rumours that there were interest to him in other (pro) leagues.
The Ottawa Citizen 28. Oct 1905
The Canadian Soo will sign at least five new men.... "Bouse" Hutton may play goal...
The Winnipeg Tribune 20. Now 1906
Western Canada hockey magnates are after Bouse Hutton of Ottawa
The Ottawa Journal 30. Jan 1900
"Hutton, in the Ottawa flags´is certainly a star
This is from 1903 if I remember correct. I have lost the date
In a hockey game a goal tend´s position is not an enviable one. He is seldom credited with any share of a victory, but in case of a defeat is sure to get more than his own share. It was when Ottawa was playing four men to Montreal´s seven that Hutton´s nerve stood him in good sread and enabled him on two occasions to save apparently impossible situations. And his good judgement was all the more apparent at this crisis because Montreal by poor judgement failed to take advantage of the absence on the side of both Pulford and Spittal to make a combined attack....
From a Stanley Cup challenge against Marlboros
The Ottawa Citizen 24. Feb 1904
Hutton distinquished himself by his work before the nets. In fact his performance last night stamps him as a marvel in the position and the Marlboro team attribute their defeat to his clever stopping more tan any other cause
The Winnipeg Tribune 30. Dec 1905
Bouse Hutton of Ottawa a former member of the Stanley Cup holders, and one of the best goal-keepers that has ever played on a Canadian hockey team may coach the St. John hockeyist this winter..
The Ottawa Citizen 15. Mar 1905
Bouse Hutton is another who must not be forgotten. He helped to bring the Stanley cup to Ottawa and to defend it until the present year and should not be overlooked when remembering the men of the famous Ottawa team.
And few rumours that there were interest to him in other (pro) leagues.
The Ottawa Citizen 28. Oct 1905
The Canadian Soo will sign at least five new men.... "Bouse" Hutton may play goal...
The Winnipeg Tribune 20. Now 1906
Western Canada hockey magnates are after Bouse Hutton of Ottawa
Now the doubts about CAHL and FAHL goalies comes from few things. Other is obviously from the constant changing of goalies. Not many of the goalies played several seasons and goalies were swapped even during season. Teans struggled to find starting goalie.
Other is that few significant goalies from that time spand did not do great in other leagues. Billy Nicholson was the Stanley cup winning goalie with the Little Men Of Iron. Was regarded as fine goalie. He turned "pro" in 1904-1905 and went to IPHL. And even from those All-Star selections you can see he wasn´t selected to none. He did do well in there, but I would rank him behind Winchester, Jones and Hern for his time in there.
Other is Jack Hunter the Cornwall goalie. First in OHA and then the team swapped FAHL. By all accounts very good goalie both hockey and Lacrosse. He went to Manitoba league in 1905 and was big disapointment and was regarded weaker than the goalies already there.
Few clips because Hunter is problably not as well known as Nicholson.
The Ottawa Citizen 26. Feb 1903
Hunter made beautiful stop of McLaren´s shot, Ardagh went down from cover but Hunter blocked his shot neatly. The Cornwalls went up the ice in line but Allen´s shot was wide. Chadwick skated in on Hunter but the Cornwall goalkeeper made another of his rattiling good stops...Hunter was playing the whole game for Cornwall at this stage, stopping shots from McLare and Chadwick with precision.
The Gazette 26. Feb 1903
The fact that the score was not made large one is due entirely to Jack Hunter, who gave great exhibition of goal keeping.
The Gazette 16. Jan 1904
The Cornwall defence was good, and Hunter in goal seemed to be a regular stone wall...
The Ottawa Citizen 2. Dec 1903
The old players in town are Jack Hunter, who is phenomenal goal keeper...
And then from his not that great trip to Manitoba
The Winnipeg Tribune 12. Jan 1906
Hunter of Cornwall who was tried out with Brandon,has proved the disapointment of the season in the wheat city. In the east he was regarded as one of the best goal tends in the business, but he has not been able to catch his stride in the west.
The Winnipeg Tribune 30. Jan 1906
Hunter last year with Commerce, was given chance to scintillate in front of the nets and he did fairly well, though he is not in the same class as Quinn. However, it might be said for him that he had far more wicked shot to handle than did the Winnipeg goal-tend.
Other is that few significant goalies from that time spand did not do great in other leagues. Billy Nicholson was the Stanley cup winning goalie with the Little Men Of Iron. Was regarded as fine goalie. He turned "pro" in 1904-1905 and went to IPHL. And even from those All-Star selections you can see he wasn´t selected to none. He did do well in there, but I would rank him behind Winchester, Jones and Hern for his time in there.
Other is Jack Hunter the Cornwall goalie. First in OHA and then the team swapped FAHL. By all accounts very good goalie both hockey and Lacrosse. He went to Manitoba league in 1905 and was big disapointment and was regarded weaker than the goalies already there.
Few clips because Hunter is problably not as well known as Nicholson.
The Ottawa Citizen 26. Feb 1903
Hunter made beautiful stop of McLaren´s shot, Ardagh went down from cover but Hunter blocked his shot neatly. The Cornwalls went up the ice in line but Allen´s shot was wide. Chadwick skated in on Hunter but the Cornwall goalkeeper made another of his rattiling good stops...Hunter was playing the whole game for Cornwall at this stage, stopping shots from McLare and Chadwick with precision.
The Gazette 26. Feb 1903
The fact that the score was not made large one is due entirely to Jack Hunter, who gave great exhibition of goal keeping.
The Gazette 16. Jan 1904
The Cornwall defence was good, and Hunter in goal seemed to be a regular stone wall...
The Ottawa Citizen 2. Dec 1903
The old players in town are Jack Hunter, who is phenomenal goal keeper...
And then from his not that great trip to Manitoba
The Winnipeg Tribune 12. Jan 1906
Hunter of Cornwall who was tried out with Brandon,has proved the disapointment of the season in the wheat city. In the east he was regarded as one of the best goal tends in the business, but he has not been able to catch his stride in the west.
The Winnipeg Tribune 30. Jan 1906
Hunter last year with Commerce, was given chance to scintillate in front of the nets and he did fairly well, though he is not in the same class as Quinn. However, it might be said for him that he had far more wicked shot to handle than did the Winnipeg goal-tend.
And I guess brief clips from US from that time span. Goalie "rivalry" was mainly between Chief Jones and Riley Hern even prior forming IPHL. (though I´m not that well informed about goalies in New York)
The Pittsburgh Press - Mar 22, 1903
Jones, at goal was a stone wall and is in the class of the "only" Riley Hern.
Evening News January 14, 1904
The bright individual star of the two teams was Chief Jones in goal, and even the most enthusiastic Portage Lake supporter admit that while Riley Hern is great there are none the peers of Chief Jones.
The Pittsburgh press Feb 21, 1904
Jones, the goaltender. was with Houghton last season. It is said up in the copper country that Jones is superior to Riley Hern, an old local favorite, now with Portage Lake.
Chief Jones was acquired from St. Paul by Doc Gibson. Atleast Chaucer Elliot (who was ref in many leagues including IPHL) had high opinion about him.
The Detroit Times 2. Dec 1914
So predicts "Chief" Jones, coach of the septet that is organizing in this city, and once the choice of Chaucer Elliot, the Canadian referee, as the best all-around hockey player in the world. That was wen Jones played with the Cobalt team, the conquerors of the Renfrew -the "million dollar team"-....
The Pittsburgh Press - Mar 22, 1903
Jones, at goal was a stone wall and is in the class of the "only" Riley Hern.
Evening News January 14, 1904
The bright individual star of the two teams was Chief Jones in goal, and even the most enthusiastic Portage Lake supporter admit that while Riley Hern is great there are none the peers of Chief Jones.
The Pittsburgh press Feb 21, 1904
Jones, the goaltender. was with Houghton last season. It is said up in the copper country that Jones is superior to Riley Hern, an old local favorite, now with Portage Lake.
Chief Jones was acquired from St. Paul by Doc Gibson. Atleast Chaucer Elliot (who was ref in many leagues including IPHL) had high opinion about him.
The Detroit Times 2. Dec 1914
So predicts "Chief" Jones, coach of the septet that is organizing in this city, and once the choice of Chaucer Elliot, the Canadian referee, as the best all-around hockey player in the world. That was wen Jones played with the Cobalt team, the conquerors of the Renfrew -the "million dollar team"-....
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Data dump time! First up, the top leagues playing during the period from 1900-01 to 1904-05:
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It's hard to exactly quantify relative league strength. The CAHL would be the clear-cut strongest league until 1903. Midway through the next season, Ottawa HC would withdraw, and the following season it would join the FAHL. As well, the IPHL boasted the ever-formidable Portage Lakes HC and the team employing Hod Stuart at the time (i.e. Calumet in 1904-05, Pittsburgh afterward, Portage Lakes before). It's worth noting that even before the IPHL, the Hod Stuart-led Portage Lakes HC crushed the newly-formed Montreal Wanderers in 1903-04 in a two-game series (8-4 and 9-3). Unfortunately, before the IPHL, Portage Lakes was basically the Harlem Globetrotters before the NBA became integrated, so it's tough to gauge.
Surprisingly, using a combination of Hockey-Reference.com's adjustment method with quoipourquoi's opponent GA method on crossover players from 1904 to 1905 (as well as eyeballing players switching leagues in later seasons), there doesn't seem to be much of an effect on player scoring going from league to league.
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| 1901 | Games Played | Wins | Losses | Ties | Goals For | Goals Against | GF/GP | GA/GP | Avg. Opponent GF | Avg. Opponent GA | Notes |
| Ottawa Hockey Club | 8 | 7 | 0 | 1 | 33 | 20 | 4.13 | 2.50 | 3.88 | 4.28 | |
| Montreal Victorias | 8 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 45 | 32 | 5.63 | 4.00 | 3.50 | 3.91 | |
| Montreal Shamrocks | 8 | 4 | 4 | 0 | 30 | 25 | 3.75 | 3.13 | 3.97 | 4.13 | |
| Montreal Hockey Club | 8 | 3 | 5 | 0 | 28 | 37 | 3.50 | 4.63 | 4.03 | 3.75 | |
| Quebec Hockey Club | 8 | 1 | 7 | 0 | 21 | 43 | 2.63 | 5.38 | 4.25 | 3.56 | |
| 1902 | Games Played | Wins | Losses | Ties | Goals For | Goals Against | GF/GP | GA/GP | Avg. Opponent GF | Avg. Opponent GA | |
| Montreal Hockey Club | 8 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 39 | 15 | 4.88 | 1.88 | 3.50 | 4.25 | |
| Ottawa Hockey Club | 8 | 5 | 3 | 0 | 35 | 15 | 4.38 | 1.88 | 3.63 | 4.25 | |
| Montreal Victorias | 8 | 4 | 4 | 0 | 36 | 25 | 4.50 | 3.13 | 3.59 | 3.94 | |
| Quebec Hockey Club | 8 | 4 | 4 | 0 | 26 | 34 | 3.25 | 4.25 | 3.91 | 3.66 | |
| Montreal Shamrocks | 8 | 1 | 7 | 0 | 15 | 62 | 1.88 | 7.75 | 4.25 | 2.78 | |
| 1903 | Games Played | Wins | Losses | Ties | Goals For | Goals Against | GF/GP | GA/GP | Avg. Opponent GF | Avg. Opponent GA | |
| Ottawa Hockey Club | 8 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 47 | 26 | 5.88 | 3.25 | 4.44 | 5.10 | |
| Montreal Victorias | 8 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 48 | 33 | 6.00 | 4.13 | 4.41 | 4.88 | |
| Montreal Hockey Club | 7 | 4 | 3 | 0 | 34 | 19 | 4.86 | 2.71 | 4.76 | 5.05 | |
| Quebec Hockey Club | 7 | 3 | 4 | 0 | 30 | 46 | 4.29 | 6.57 | 4.84 | 4.49 | |
| Montreal Shamrocks | 8 | 0 | 8 | 0 | 21 | 56 | 2.63 | 7.00 | 5.25 | 4.17 | |
| 1904 | Games Played | Wins | Losses | Ties | Goals For | Goals Against | GF/GP | GA/GP | Avg. Opponent GF | Avg. Opponent GA | |
| Quebec Hockey Club | 6 | 5 | 1 | 0 | 50 | 37 | 8.33 | 6.17 | 6.27 | 7.86 | |
| Montreal Victorias | 8 | 5 | 3 | 0 | 75 | 48 | 9.38 | 6.00 | 6.44 | 6.87 | |
| Montreal Hockey Club | 7 | 2 | 5 | 0 | 34 | 49 | 4.86 | 7.00 | 7.51 | 7.03 | |
| Montreal Shamrocks | 7 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 32 | 74 | 4.57 | 10.57 | 7.59 | 6.01 | |
| Ottawa Hockey Club‡ | 4 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 32 | 15 | 8.00 | 3.75 | 7.04 | 7.39 | *Withdrew from CAHL after 4 games, joined FAHL |
| 1905 | Games Played | Wins | Losses | Ties | Goals For | Goals Against | GF/GP | GA/GP | Avg. Opponent GF | Avg. Opponent GA | |
| Montreal Victorias | 8 | 9 | 1 | 0 | 64 | 32 | 8.00 | 4.00 | 6.33 | 6.22 | |
| Quebec Hockey Club | 9 | 8 | 2 | 0 | 78 | 45 | 8.67 | 5.00 | 5.65 | 6.48 | |
| Montreal Hockey Club | 9 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 54 | 42 | 6.00 | 4.67 | 6.24 | 6.55 | |
| Montreal Shamrocks | 9 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 41 | 62 | 4.56 | 6.89 | 6.56 | 6.06 | |
| Montreal Westmount | 9 | 3 | 7 | 0 | 55 | 75 | 6.11 | 8.33 | 5.73 | 6.21 | |
| Montreal Le National | 4 | 0 | 10† | 0 | 6 | 42 | 1.50 | 10.50 | 6.33 | 6.22 | *Defaulted 6 games |
| 1904 FAHL | Games Played | Wins | Losses | Ties | Goals For | Goals Against | GF/GP | GA/GP | Avg. Opponent GF | Avg. Opponent GA |
| Montreal Wanderers | 6 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 38 | 18 | 6.33 | 3.00 | 4.17 | 5.28 |
| Montreal Le National | 6 | 3 | 3 | 0 | 27 | 27 | 4.50 | 4.50 | 4.78 | 4.78 |
| Cornwall HC | 6 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 20 | 27 | 3.33 | 4.50 | 5.17 | 4.78 |
| Ottawa Capitals | 6 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 28 | 41 | 4.67 | 6.83 | 4.72 | 4.00 |
| 1905 FAHL | Games Played | Wins | Losses | Ties | Goals For | Goals Against | GF/GP | GA/GP | Avg. Opponent GF | Avg. Opponent GA |
| Ottawa Hockey Club | 8 | 7 | 1 | 0 | 60 | 19 | 7.50 | 2.38 | 3.59 | 4.88 |
| Montreal Wanderers | 8 | 6 | 2 | 0 | 44 | 27 | 5.50 | 3.38 | 4.09 | 4.63 |
| Brockville | 8 | 4 | 4 | 0 | 34 | 30 | 4.25 | 3.75 | 4.41 | 4.53 |
| Cornwall HC | 8 | 3 | 5 | 0 | 18 | 37 | 2.25 | 4.63 | 4.91 | 4.31 |
| Montreal Montagnards | 8 | 0 | 8 | 0 | 19 | 62 | 2.38 | 7.75 | 4.88 | 3.53 |
| 1902 | GP | W | L | T | GF | GA | Pts | Ave | GF/GP | GA/GP | Avg. Opponent GF | Avg. Opponent GA |
| Pittsburgh Keystones | 14 | 9 | 5 | 0 | 43 | 32 | 18 | 0.643 | 3.07 | 2.29 | 2.61 | 2.96 |
| Pittsburgh A.C. | 14 | 8 | 6 | 0 | 46 | 28 | 16 | 0.571 | 3.29 | 2.00 | 2.50 | 3.11 |
| Pittsburgh Bankers | 14 | 4 | 10 | 0 | 27 | 55 | 8 | 0.286 | 1.93 | 3.93 | 3.18 | 2.14 |
| 1903 | GP | W | L | T | GF | GA | Pts. | Ave | GF/GP | GA/GP | Avg. Opponent GF | Avg. Opponent GA |
| Pittsburgh Bankers | 14 | 10 | 3 | 1 | 58 | 18 | 19 | 0.679 | 4.14 | 1.29 | 2.53 | 3.59 |
| Pittsburgh A. C. | 13 | 7 | 5 | 1 | 36 | 32 | 15 | 0.577 | 2.77 | 2.46 | 2.99 | 3.20 |
| Pittsburgh Victorias | 14 | 7 | 7 | 0 | 47 | 40 | 14 | 0.5 | 3.36 | 2.86 | 2.79 | 3.07 |
| Pittsburgh Keystones | 13 | 2 | 11 | 0 | 19 | 71 | 4 | 0.154 | 1.46 | 5.46 | 3.42 | 2.20 |
| 1904 | GP | W | L | T | GF | GA | PTS | AVE | GF/GP | GA/GP | Avg. Opponent GF | Avg. Opponent GA |
| Pittsburgh Victorias | 13 | 10 | 3 | 0 | 56 | 23 | 20 | 0.769 | 4.31 | 1.77 | 3.03 | 3.81 |
| Pittsburgh Bankers | 15 | 8 | 7 | 0 | 45 | 45 | 16 | 0.533 | 3.00 | 3.00 | 3.48 | 3.48 |
| Pittsburgh A.C. | 14 | 4 | 10 | 0 | 44 | 62 | 8 | 0.286 | 3.14 | 4.43 | 3.49 | 2.76 |
| Pittsburgh Keystones* | 6 | 2 | 4 | 0 | 15 | 30 | 4 | 0.333 | 2.50 | 5.00 | 3.27 | 3.27 |
| 1905 | GP | W | L | T | GF | GA | Pts | Ave | GF/GP | GA/GP | Avg. Opponent GF | Avg. Opponent GA |
| Calumet-Laurium Miners | 24 | 18 | 5 | 1 | 131 | 75 | 37 | 0.77 | 5.46 | 3.13 | 3.73 | 4.63 |
| Houghton-Portage Lakes | 24 | 15 | 7 | 2 | 98 | 81 | 32 | 0.666 | 4.08 | 3.38 | 4.07 | 4.56 |
| Michigan Soo | 24 | 10 | 13 | 1 | 81 | 79 | 21 | 0.438 | 3.38 | 3.29 | 4.25 | 4.58 |
| Pittsburgh Pros | 24 | 8 | 15 | 1 | 82 | 144 | 17 | 0.354 | 3.42 | 6.00 | 4.24 | 3.91 |
| Canadian Soo | 24 | 6 | 17 | 2 | 97 | 140 | 13 | 0.271 | 4.04 | 5.83 | 4.08 | 3.95 |
It's hard to exactly quantify relative league strength. The CAHL would be the clear-cut strongest league until 1903. Midway through the next season, Ottawa HC would withdraw, and the following season it would join the FAHL. As well, the IPHL boasted the ever-formidable Portage Lakes HC and the team employing Hod Stuart at the time (i.e. Calumet in 1904-05, Pittsburgh afterward, Portage Lakes before). It's worth noting that even before the IPHL, the Hod Stuart-led Portage Lakes HC crushed the newly-formed Montreal Wanderers in 1903-04 in a two-game series (8-4 and 9-3). Unfortunately, before the IPHL, Portage Lakes was basically the Harlem Globetrotters before the NBA became integrated, so it's tough to gauge.
Surprisingly, using a combination of Hockey-Reference.com's adjustment method with quoipourquoi's opponent GA method on crossover players from 1904 to 1905 (as well as eyeballing players switching leagues in later seasons), there doesn't seem to be much of an effect on player scoring going from league to league.
| Player | Team | GP | G | Oppo. GA | Adj. GP | Adj. G | FAHL 1904 |
| Ken Mallen (RW) | Calumet Miners | 24 | 38 | 4.63 | 82 | 28 | 24 |
| Lorne Campbell (C) | Pittsburgh Professionals | 24 | 29 | 3.91 | 82 | 25 | |
| Portage Lakes Hockey Club | 4 | 6 | 4.56 | 14 | 5 | ||
| Bruce Stuart (C) | Portage Lakes Hockey Club | 22 | 33 | 4.56 | 75 | 25 | |
| Hod Stuart (D) | Calumet Miners | 22 | 18 | 4.63 | 75 | 13 | |
| Jimmy Gardner (LW) | Calumet Miners | 23 | 16 | 4.63 | 79 | 12 | 11 |
| Jack Laviolette (D) | Michigan Soo | 24 | 15 | 4.58 | 82 | 11 | 20 |
| Fred Lake (LW/D) | Portage Lakes Hockey Club | 24 | 14 | 4.56 | 82 | 10 | |
| Barney Holden (D) | Portage Lakes Hockey Club | 24 | 9 | 4.56 | 82 | 7 | |
| Jack Gibson (F) | Portage Lakes Hockey Club | 24 | 2 | 4.56 | 82 | 1 |
| Name | Club | GP | G | Oppo. GA | Adj. GP | Adj. G | Adj. G/GP |
| Jack Marshall | Wanderers | 4 | 11 | 6.01 | 55 | 25 | 0.45 |
| Edgar Dey | Capitals | 6 | 11 | 4.55 | 82 | 33 | |
| Ken Mallen | Wanderers & Cornwall | 6 | 10 | 5.72 | 82 | 24 | |
| Alphonse Prevost | Le National | 6 | 9 | 5.44 | 82 | 23 | |
| Percy Sims | Capitals | 5 | 9 | 4.55 | 68 | 27 | |
| Jack Laviolette | Nationals | 6 | 8 | 5.44 | 82 | 20 | |
| "Pokey" Leahy | Wanderers | 5 | 7 | 6.01 | 68 | 16 | |
| Jimmy Gardner | Wanderers | 6 | 5 | 6.01 | 82 | 11 | |
| Ed Decarie | Le National | 6 | 5 | 5.44 | 82 | 13 | |
| Fred Strike | Wanderers | 2 | 4 | 6.01 | 27 | 9 |
| Name | Club | GP | G | Oppo. GA | Adj. GP | Adj. G | Adj. G/GP |
| McGee, Frank | Ottawa | 6 | 17 | 4.88 | 62 | 36 | |
| Marshall, Jack | Wanderers | 8 | 17 | 4.63 | 82 | 38 | 0.46 |
| Westwick, Harry | Ottawa | 8 | 15 | 4.88 | 82 | 32 | |
| Smith, Alf | Ottawa | 8 | 13 | 4.88 | 82 | 27 | |
| Blachford, Cecil | Wanderers | 7 | 10 | 4.63 | 72 | 22 | |
| Glass, Frank | Wanderers | 6 | 9 | 4.63 | 62 | 20 | |
| Lannon, W. | Brockville | 8 | 7 | 4.53 | 82 | 16 | |
| Shore, Hamby | Ottawa | 3 | 6 | 4.88 | 31 | 13 | |
| Marks, Jack | Brockville | 8 | 6 | 4.53 | 82 | 14 | |
| Mallette, Bob | Cornwall | 8 | 5 | 4.31 | 82 | 12 |
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This is the second data dump, this time regarding scoring. With multiple leagues and incomplete data, it's basically pointless to do a leaderboard appearances tally, so instead I combined the best of both worlds: a concept that I'm calling "significant seasons". Basically, only seasons that are top-10 in their league are added to totals. This should eliminate the "compiler" issue.
From 1900-01 to 1904-05:
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The accumulated "significant seasons" from 1886-87 to 1904-05:
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The accumulated "significant seasons" from 1900-01 to 1904-05, for players of interest:
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I'm going to need to mull over an all-time top 10 as of 1905. If I had to guess at a Top 10 for 1900-01 to 1904-05, in alphabetical order:
Forwards
Russell Bowie
Lorne Campbell
Frank McGee
Bruce Stuart
Harry Westwick
Defence
Dickie Boon
Harvey Pulford
Hod Stuart
Both
Jack Marshall
Goal (TBD)
John Bouse Hutton (probably)
Blair Russel was productive enough to be in the top 10, but he had the lowest adjusted goals per game of the players in the upper echelon, and it was either him or Dickie Boon...
I'll likely do my goaltending/GSAA analysis tomorrow.
From 1900-01 to 1904-05:
| 1901 | Club | GP | G | Oppo. GA | Adj. GP | Adj. G |
| Russell Bowie | Victorias | 7 | 24 | 3.91 | 72 | 63 |
| Lorne Campbell | Montreal | 7 | 10 | 3.75 | 72 | 27 |
| Arthur Farrell | Shamrocks | 8 | 10 | 4.13 | 82 | 25 |
| Harold Henry | Ottawa | 8 | 8 | 4.28 | 82 | 19 |
| Blair Russel | Victorias | 8 | 8 | 3.91 | 82 | 21 |
| Arthur Sixsmith | Ottawa | 7 | 7 | 4.28 | 72 | 17 |
| Harry Trihey | Shamrocks | 7 | 7 | 4.13 | 72 | 17 |
| Charlie Liffiton | Montreal | 8 | 6 | 3.75 | 82 | 16 |
| Harry Westwick | Ottawa | 7 | 6 | 4.28 | 72 | 14 |
| Edward Stuart | Victorias | 5 | 6 | 3.91 | 51 | 16 |
| Jack Smith | Ottawa | 4 | 6 | 4.28 | 41 | 14 |
| 1902 | Club | GP | G | Oppo. GA | Adj. GP | Adj. G |
| Archie Hooper | Montreal | 8 | 17 | 4.25 | 82 | 41 |
| Russell Bowie | Victorias | 7 | 13 | 3.94 | 72 | 34 |
| Jack Marshall | Montreal | 8 | 11 | 4.25 | 82 | 27 |
| Rat Westwick | Ottawa | 8 | 11 | 4.25 | 82 | 27 |
| Bruce Stuart | Ottawa | 8 | 9 | 4.25 | 82 | 22 |
| Blair Russel | Victorias | 8 | 9 | 3.94 | 82 | 23 |
| Charlie Liffiton | Montreal | 8 | 8 | 4.25 | 82 | 19 |
| Harold Henry | Ottawa | 8 | 6 | 4.25 | 82 | 14 |
| Edward Stuart | Victorias | 6 | 6 | 3.94 | 62 | 16 |
| Percy Lemesurier | Quebec | 4 | 5 | 3.66 | 41 | 14 |
| Hod Stuart | Quebec | 8 | 5 | 3.66 | 82 | 14 |
| 1903 | Club | GP | G | Oppo. GA | Adj. GP | Adj. G |
| Russell Bowie | Victorias | 7 | 22 | 4.88 | 72 | 46 |
| Frank McGee | Ottawa | 6 | 14 | 5.1 | 62 | 28 |
| Herb Jordan | Quebec | 7 | 12 | 4.49 | 72 | 27 |
| Billy Gilmour | Ottawa | 7 | 10 | 5.1 | 72 | 20 |
| Archie Hooper | Montreal | 6 | 9 | 5.05 | 62 | 18 |
| Jack Marshall | Montreal | 7 | 8 | 5.05 | 72 | 16 |
| Blair Russell | Victorias | 8 | 7 | 4.88 | 82 | 15 |
| Dave Gilmour | Ottawa | 4 | 7 | 5.1 | 41 | 14 |
| Suddy Gilmour | Ottawa | 7 | 7 | 5.1 | 72 | 14 |
| Harry Bright | Shamrocks | 8 | 7 | 4.17 | 82 | 17 |
| 1904 | Club | GP | G | Oppo. GA | Adj. GP | Adj. G |
| Bowie, Russell | Victorias | 8 | 27 | 6.87 | 82 | 40 |
| Jordan, Herb | Quebec | 6 | 19 | 7.86 | 62 | 25 |
| Russell, Blair | Victorias | 8 | 17 | 6.87 | 82 | 25 |
| Howard, Cavie | Victorias | 6 | 16 | 6.87 | 62 | 24 |
| McGee, Frank | Ottawa | 4 | 12 | 7.39 | 41 | 17 |
| Sargent, Grover | Montreal | 6 | 11 | 7.03 | 62 | 16 |
| Power, Joe | Quebec | 6 | 10 | 7.86 | 62 | 13 |
| Coulson, Herbert | Montreal | 6 | 8 | 7.03 | 62 | 12 |
| Smith, Alf | Ottawa | 4 | 8 | 7.39 | 41 | 11 |
| Foulis, Colin | Shamrocks | 6 | 7 | 6.01 | 62 | 12 |
| 1905 | Club | GP | G | Oppo. GA | Adj. GP | Adj. G |
| Bowie, Russell | Victorias | 8 | 27 | 6.22 | 73 | 40 |
| Russel, Blair | Victorias | 8 | 19 | 6.22 | 73 | 28 |
| Power, Joe | Quebec | 9 | 15 | 6.48 | 82 | 21 |
| Foulis, Colin | Westmount | 7 | 13 | 6.21 | 64 | 19 |
| Russell, Ernie | Montreal | 8 | 11 | 6.55 | 73 | 15 |
| Ross, Art | Westmount | 8 | 10 | 6.21 | 73 | 15 |
| Hogan, Eddie | Quebec | 9 | 10 | 6.48 | 82 | 14 |
| Church, Tom | Westmount | 9 | 9 | 6.21 | 82 | 13 |
| Howard, Cavie | Victorias | 8 | 9 | 6.22 | 73 | 13 |
| Jordan, Herb | Quebec | 8 | 9 | 6.48 | 73 | 13 |
| 1904 | Club | GP | G | Oppo. GA | Adj. GP | Adj. G |
| Jack Marshall | Wanderers | 4 | 11 | 6.01 | 55 | 25 |
| Edgar Dey | Capitals | 6 | 11 | 4.55 | 82 | 33 |
| Ken Mallen | Wanderers & Cornwall | 6 | 10 | 5.72 | 82 | 24 |
| Alphonse Prevost | Le National | 6 | 9 | 5.44 | 82 | 23 |
| Percy Sims | Capitals | 5 | 9 | 4.55 | 68 | 27 |
| Jack Laviolette | Nationals | 6 | 8 | 5.44 | 82 | 20 |
| "Pokey" Leahy | Wanderers | 5 | 7 | 6.01 | 68 | 16 |
| Jimmy Gardner | Wanderers | 6 | 5 | 6.01 | 82 | 11 |
| Ed Decarie | Le National | 6 | 5 | 5.44 | 82 | 13 |
| Fred Strike | Wanderers | 2 | 4 | 6.01 | 27 | 9 |
| 1905 | Club | GP | G | Oppo. GA | Adj. GP | Adj. G |
| McGee, Frank | Ottawa | 6 | 17 | 4.88 | 62 | 36 |
| Marshall, Jack | Wanderers | 8 | 17 | 4.63 | 82 | 38 |
| Westwick, Harry | Ottawa | 8 | 15 | 4.88 | 82 | 32 |
| Smith, Alf | Ottawa | 8 | 13 | 4.88 | 82 | 27 |
| Blachford, Cecil | Wanderers | 7 | 10 | 4.63 | 72 | 22 |
| Glass, Frank | Wanderers | 6 | 9 | 4.63 | 62 | 20 |
| Lannon, W. | Brockville | 8 | 7 | 4.53 | 82 | 16 |
| Shore, Hamby | Ottawa | 3 | 6 | 4.88 | 31 | 13 |
| Marks, Jack | Brockville | 8 | 6 | 4.53 | 82 | 14 |
| Mallette, Bob | Cornwall | 8 | 5 | 4.31 | 82 | 12 |
| 1902 | Club | GP | G | Oppo. GA | Adj. GP | Adj. G |
| Alf Smith | Pittsburgh A.C | 14 | 11 | 3.11 | 82 | 21 |
| Lorne Campbell | Bankers | 13 | 6 | 2.14 | 76 | 16 |
| 1903 | Club | GP | G | Oppo. GA | Adj. GP | Adj. G |
| Bruce Stuart | Victorias | 10 | 16 | 3.07 | 59 | 31 |
| Lorne Campbell | Bankers | 14 | 14 | 3.59 | 82 | 23 |
| Hod Stuart | Bankers | 13 | 7 | 3.59 | 76 | 11 |
| 1904 | Club | GP | G | Oppo. GA | Adj. GP | Adj. G |
| Lorne Campbell | Bankers | 15 | 21 | 3.48 | 82 | 33 |
| 1905 | Team | GP | G | Oppo. GA | Adj. GP | Adj. G |
| Ken Mallen (RW) | Calumet Miners | 24 | 38 | 4.63 | 82 | 28 |
| Lorne Campbell (C) | Pittsburgh Professionals | 24 | 29 | 3.91 | 82 | 25 |
| ^ | Portage Lakes Hockey Club | 4 | 6 | 4.56 | 14 | 5 |
| Bruce Stuart (C) | Portage Lakes Hockey Club | 22 | 33 | 4.56 | 75 | 25 |
| Hod Stuart (D) | Calumet Miners | 22 | 18 | 4.63 | 75 | 13 |
| Jimmy Gardner (LW) | Calumet Miners | 23 | 16 | 4.63 | 79 | 12 |
| Jack Laviolette (D) | Michigan Soo Indians | 24 | 15 | 4.58 | 82 | 11 |
| Fred Lake (LW/D) | Portage Lakes Hockey Club | 24 | 14 | 4.56 | 82 | 10 |
| Barney Holden (D) | Portage Lakes Hockey Club | 24 | 9 | 4.56 | 82 | 7 |
| Jack Gibson (F) | Portage Lakes Hockey Club | 24 | 2 | 4.56 | 82 | 1 |
The accumulated "significant seasons" from 1886-87 to 1904-05:
| “Significant” seasons up to 1905 | Sig. Seas. | Adj. GP | Adj. G | Adj. G/GP | Notes |
| Bowie, Russell | 7 | 515 | 289 | 0.56 | |
| Swift, Albert E. “Dolly” | 6 | 437 | 168 | 0.38 | |
| Russel, Blair | 6 | 473 | 134 | 0.28 | |
| Campbell, Lorne | 5 | 408 | 129 | 0.32 | |
| Smith, Alf | 6 | 451 | 123 | 0.27 | |
| McKerrow, Clarence | 4 | 267 | 121 | 0.45 | |
| Westwick, Harry “Rat” | 5 | 400 | 112 | 0.28 | No data from his two seasons in the OHA. |
| MacDougall, Robert | 4 | 247 | 107 | 0.43 | |
| Routh, Haviland | 3 | 236 | 106 | 0.45 | |
| Marshall, Jack | 4 | 291 | 106 | 0.36 | |
| Trihey, Harry | 3 | 216 | 102 | 0.47 | |
| Stuart, Bruce | 4 | 267 | 99 | 0.37 | Unsure how to use Portage Lakes exhibition matches from 1903-04. |
| McGee, Frank | 3 | 165 | 81 | 0.49 | Probable three retro Conn Smythes. |
| “Significant” seasons up to 1905 | Sig. Seas. | Adj. GP | Adj. G | Adj. G/GP | Notes |
| Bowie, Russell | 7 | 515 | 289 | 0.56 | |
| Swift, Albert E. “Dolly” | 6 | 437 | 168 | 0.38 | |
| Russel, Blair | 6 | 473 | 134 | 0.28 | |
| Campbell, Lorne | 5 | 408 | 129 | 0.32 | |
| Smith, Alf | 6 | 451 | 123 | 0.27 | |
| McKerrow, Clarence | 4 | 267 | 121 | 0.45 | |
| Westwick, Harry “Rat” | 5 | 400 | 112 | 0.28 | No data from his two seasons in the OHA. |
| MacDougall, Robert | 4 | 247 | 107 | 0.43 | |
| Routh, Haviland | 3 | 236 | 106 | 0.45 | |
| Marshall, Jack | 4 | 291 | 106 | 0.36 | |
| Trihey, Harry | 3 | 216 | 102 | 0.47 | |
| Stuart, Bruce | 4 | 267 | 99 | 0.37 | Unsure how to use Portage Lakes exhibition matches from 1903-04. |
| McGee, Frank | 3 | 165 | 81 | 0.49 | Probable three retro Conn Smythes. |
| MacNaughton, Archibald “Archie” | 3 | 234 | 79 | 0.34 | |
| Hodgson, Archie | 4 | 285 | 74 | 0.26 | |
| Davidson, Cam | 3 | 206 | 71 | 0.34 | |
| Drinkwater, Graham | 3 | 246 | 70 | 0.28 | |
| Barlow, Billy | 3 | 236 | 68 | 0.29 | |
| Kirby, Chauncey | 4 | 304 | 68 | 0.22 | |
| Davidson, Shirley | 3 | 216 | 67 | 0.31 | |
| Jordan, Herb | 3 | 207 | 65 | 0.31 | |
| Farrell, Arthur | 3 | 246 | 64 | 0.26 | |
| Brown, Dave | 3 | 173 | 63 | 0.36 | |
| Lee, Sam | 5 | 227 | 60 | 0.26 | |
| Hooper, Archie | 2 | 144 | 59 | 0.41 | Earliest known player to die from a hockey-related injury (puck to head, 1904). |
| Russell, Herbert | 2 | 164 | 59 | 0.36 | |
| Bradley, Robert | 2 | 164 | 58 | 0.35 | |
| Mallen, Ken | 2 | 164 | 52 | 0.32 | |
| Liffiton, Charlie | 3 | 246 | 52 | 0.21 | |
| Rankin, Norman | 2 | 133 | 49 | 0.37 | |
| Gillespie, James | 2 | 164 | 49 | 0.30 | |
| Lowe, George | 5 | 281 | 48 | 0.17 | |
| Findlay, Jack | 2 | 164 | 43 | 0.26 | |
| Christmas, Billy | 2 | 123 | 40 | 0.33 | |
| Campbell, Jack | 2 | 164 | 38 | 0.23 | |
| Stuart, Hod | 3 | 233 | 38 | 0.16 | Unsure how to use Portage Lakes exhibition matches from 1903-04. |
| Howard, Cavie | 2 | 135 | 37 | 0.27 | |
| Power, Joe | 2 | 144 | 34 | 0.24 | |
| Doyle, Pat | 2 | 164 | 34 | 0.21 | |
| Dey, Edgar | 1 | 82 | 33 | 0.40 | |
| Brannen, Jack | 2 | 164 | 33 | 0.20 | |
| Henry, Harold | 2 | 164 | 33 | 0.20 | |
| Kinghorn, James | 2 | 94 | 32 | 0.34 | |
| Stuart, Edward | 2 | 113 | 32 | 0.28 | |
| Elliot, D.A. | 1 | 70 | 31 | 0.44 | |
| Foulis, Colin | 2 | 126 | 31 | 0.25 | |
| Laviolette, Jack | 2 | 164 | 31 | 0.19 | |
| Horsfall, Herbert | 2 | 164 | 28 | 0.17 | |
| Sims, Percy | 1 | 68 | 27 | 0.40 | |
| Virtue, James | 1 | 82 | 27 | 0.33 | |
| Scott, Arthur | 2 | 94 | 27 | 0.29 | |
| Kingan, Alexander | 2 | 105 | 26 | 0.25 | |
| Brown, Desse | 1 | 82 | 24 | 0.29 | |
| Prevost, Alphonse | 1 | 82 | 23 | 0.28 | |
| Gardner, Jimmy | 2 | 161 | 23 | 0.14 | |
| Blachford, Cecil | 1 | 72 | 22 | 0.31 | |
| Hutchison, Howard | 1 | 82 | 21 | 0.26 | |
| McLea, Ernie | 1 | 82 | 21 | 0.26 | |
| Shearer, Andy | 2 | 164 | 21 | 0.13 | |
| Fairbairn, | 1 | 51 | 20 | 0.39 | |
| Glass, Frank “Pud” | 1 | 62 | 20 | 0.32 | |
| Gilmour, Billy | 1 | 72 | 20 | 0.28 | |
| Dobby, Bill | 1 | 82 | 20 | 0.24 | |
| Virtue, William | 1 | 33 | 19 | 0.58 | |
| Roger, Mac | 1 | 51 | 19 | 0.37 | |
| Ewing, Jack | 1 | 51 | 18 | 0.35 | |
| Mussen, Adurey | 1 | 51 | 18 | 0.35 | |
| Ashe, Fred | 1 | 59 | 18 | 0.31 | |
| White, Frank | 1 | 62 | 18 | 0.29 | |
| McCarron, George | 1 | 21 | 17 | 0.81 | |
| Davidson, K. | 1 | 41 | 17 | 0.41 | |
| Howard, R. | 1 | 72 | 17 | 0.24 | |
| Sixsmith, Arthur | 1 | 72 | 17 | 0.24 | |
| Bright, Harry | 1 | 82 | 17 | 0.21 | |
| Gillilan, David | 1 | 31 | 16 | 0.52 | |
| Sargent, Grover | 1 | 62 | 16 | 0.26 | |
| Leahy, “Pokey” | 1 | 68 | 16 | 0.24 | |
| McDougall, Sam | 1 | 72 | 16 | 0.22 | |
| Murray, William | 1 | 72 | 16 | 0.22 | |
| Lannon, W. | 1 | 82 | 16 | 0.20 | |
| Ross, Art | 1 | 73 | 15 | 0.21 | |
| Russell, Ernie | 1 | 73 | 15 | 0.21 | |
| Dowd, Frank | 1 | 35 | 14 | 0.40 | |
| McQuisten, Sam | 1 | 35 | 14 | 0.40 | |
| Gilmour, Dave | 1 | 41 | 14 | 0.34 | |
| Lemesurier, Percy | 1 | 41 | 14 | 0.34 | |
| Smith, Jack | 1 | 41 | 14 | 0.34 | |
| Kirby, Holder | 1 | 68 | 14 | 0.21 | |
| Craven, J. | 1 | 70 | 14 | 0.20 | |
| Gilmour, Suddy | 1 | 72 | 14 | 0.19 | |
| Hogan, Eddie | 1 | 82 | 14 | 0.17 | |
| Kerr, Jack | 1 | 82 | 14 | 0.17 | |
| Marks, Jack | 1 | 82 | 14 | 0.17 | |
| Cafferty, Thomas | 1 | 23 | 13 | 0.57 | |
| McQuisten, Stewart | 1 | 23 | 13 | 0.57 | |
| Shore, Hamby | 1 | 31 | 13 | 0.42 | |
| Ritchie, A. | 1 | 35 | 13 | 0.37 | |
| Church, Tom | 1 | 82 | 13 | 0.16 | |
| Decarie, Ed | 1 | 82 | 13 | 0.16 | |
| Arnton, Jack | 2 | 82 | 13 | 0.16 | |
| Coulson, Herbert | 1 | 62 | 12 | 0.19 | |
| Mallette, Bob | 1 | 82 | 12 | 0.15 | |
| Lake, Fred | 1 | 82 | 10 | 0.12 | |
| Russel, Bert | 1 | 82 | 10 | 0.12 | |
| Strike, Fred | 1 | 27 | 9 | 0.33 | |
| Cameron, Allan | 2 | 140 | 9 | 0.06 | |
| Holden, Barney | 1 | 82 | 7 | 0.09 | |
| Barlow, Eddie | 1 | 35 | 6 | 0.17 | |
| Warden, W. | 1 | 23 | 3 | 0.13 |
The accumulated "significant seasons" from 1900-01 to 1904-05, for players of interest:
| “Significant” seasons, 1901 to 1905 | Sig. Seas. | Adj. GP | Adj. G | Adj. G/GP | Notes |
| Bowie, Russell | 5 | 371 | 223 | 0.60 | |
| Campbell, Lorne | 5 | 408 | 129 | 0.32 | |
| Russel, Blair | 5 | 401 | 112 | 0.28 | |
| Marshall, Jack | 4 | 291 | 106 | 0.36 | |
| McGee, Frank | 3 | 165 | 81 | 0.49 | Probable three retro Conn Smythes. |
| Stuart, Bruce | 3 | 216 | 78 | 0.36 | Unsure how to use Portage Lakes exhibition matches from 1903-04. |
| Westwick, Harry “Rat” | 3 | 236 | 73 | 0.31 | No data from his two seasons in the OHA. |
| Jordan, Herb | 3 | 207 | 65 | 0.31 | |
| Smith, Alf | 3 | 205 | 59 | 0.29 | |
| Hooper, Archie | 2 | 144 | 59 | 0.41 | Earliest known player to die from a hockey-related injury (puck to side of head, 1904). |
| Mallen, Ken | 2 | 164 | 52 | 0.32 | |
| Stuart, Hod | 3 | 233 | 38 | 0.16 | Unsure how to use Portage Lakes exhibition matches from 1903-04. |
| Gardner, Jimmy | 2 | 161 | 23 | 0.14 | |
| Glass, Frank “Pud” | 1 | 62 | 20 | 0.32 |
I'm going to need to mull over an all-time top 10 as of 1905. If I had to guess at a Top 10 for 1900-01 to 1904-05, in alphabetical order:
Forwards
Russell Bowie
Lorne Campbell
Frank McGee
Bruce Stuart
Harry Westwick
Defence
Dickie Boon
Harvey Pulford
Hod Stuart
Both
Jack Marshall
Goal (TBD)
John Bouse Hutton (probably)
Blair Russel was productive enough to be in the top 10, but he had the lowest adjusted goals per game of the players in the upper echelon, and it was either him or Dickie Boon...
I'll likely do my goaltending/GSAA analysis tomorrow.
tarheelhockey
Offside Review Specialist
I can't really add anything without taking some time to mull over it, but just wanted to say this is awesome work.
I don´t have that much about Blair Russell, but here is something from this time span. His value was more in his overall game than in his goals.
The Ottawa Journal 9. Feb 1903
The forwards played an individual game especially in the first half, and they all seemed to be "up in the air" with the exception of Russell who was all over the ice.
The Montreal Gazette 11. Mar 1903
Blair Russell played a steady game throughout and worked hard every minute.
The Montreal Gazetter 9. Mar 1903
Russell held Gilmour off and rather surprised the Ottawa man who had frequently gone through on a fairly open wing.
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But when matters looked serious Russell checked the puck clear and Bowie carried it down to Ottawa end...
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When Gilmour returned the Ottawa bunch looked particularly likely and effective checking by Russell and Bert Strachan was the salvation of the Vics
The Gazette 6. Mar 1905
Next to importance to Bowie is Blair Russell, who has been frequently mentioned as candidate for left wing on all-star Eastern team. Blair played with Tucker´s school at the same time as Bowie and has figured on the senior Vics for the last five years. He has perhaps no equal in shooting from the side, and also in following back when his own goals are in danger. Blair never tires and can hold to the pace when others are dead.
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Bowie was even more brilliant than usual, and with Blair Russell´s aid, worked in some combination tricks that phased the Westmount´s defence time and again. Blair was also in great form, and his skating back was a feature. Allowing the other man yards Blair could always be trusterd to run him down and steal the puck. In this respect frequently erred on the side of over-zeal, leaving his position to catch a man on the other wing. The result was that when he did secure the disc and entanglement with Gilbert usually followed.
The Gazette 17. Feb 1905
Russell, of the Victorias, and Gilmour of the McGill university team, would take fences on the All-Canadian team. They are a fine pair and work like beavers. Russell is not a great scorer, but he is a gold-mine in point of value to his own defence. Lot an opponent get the puck and make for goals, and Russell pounces on him like an eagle, hacking and slashing at opponents stick. With Russell skating on even terms with his victim the victim is goint to lose the puck. It happens nine times out of tehn. And no one ever saw Russell tired. With head lowered, he is in the thick of everything, from the referee´s whistle to the top of the gong.
The Ottawa Journal 9. Feb 1903
The forwards played an individual game especially in the first half, and they all seemed to be "up in the air" with the exception of Russell who was all over the ice.
The Montreal Gazette 11. Mar 1903
Blair Russell played a steady game throughout and worked hard every minute.
The Montreal Gazetter 9. Mar 1903
Russell held Gilmour off and rather surprised the Ottawa man who had frequently gone through on a fairly open wing.
...
But when matters looked serious Russell checked the puck clear and Bowie carried it down to Ottawa end...
....
When Gilmour returned the Ottawa bunch looked particularly likely and effective checking by Russell and Bert Strachan was the salvation of the Vics
The Gazette 6. Mar 1905
Next to importance to Bowie is Blair Russell, who has been frequently mentioned as candidate for left wing on all-star Eastern team. Blair played with Tucker´s school at the same time as Bowie and has figured on the senior Vics for the last five years. He has perhaps no equal in shooting from the side, and also in following back when his own goals are in danger. Blair never tires and can hold to the pace when others are dead.
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Bowie was even more brilliant than usual, and with Blair Russell´s aid, worked in some combination tricks that phased the Westmount´s defence time and again. Blair was also in great form, and his skating back was a feature. Allowing the other man yards Blair could always be trusterd to run him down and steal the puck. In this respect frequently erred on the side of over-zeal, leaving his position to catch a man on the other wing. The result was that when he did secure the disc and entanglement with Gilbert usually followed.
The Gazette 17. Feb 1905
Russell, of the Victorias, and Gilmour of the McGill university team, would take fences on the All-Canadian team. They are a fine pair and work like beavers. Russell is not a great scorer, but he is a gold-mine in point of value to his own defence. Lot an opponent get the puck and make for goals, and Russell pounces on him like an eagle, hacking and slashing at opponents stick. With Russell skating on even terms with his victim the victim is goint to lose the puck. It happens nine times out of tehn. And no one ever saw Russell tired. With head lowered, he is in the thick of everything, from the referee´s whistle to the top of the gong.
Was going through some notes from Tommy Phillips and certainly case could be made that he was top 10 player even from this time period. Not sure if it serves the purpose though. He was already at the start of 1905-1906 compared to McGee and talks of him being the best in game. Gathered reputations of being best in OHA and in West. And most talked player in East.
VanIslander
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It's clear to me, underrated in the ATDs:
Boon, Trihey, McGee.
A bit (not much) overrated:
Griffis, Glass, Westwick.
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In any case, here is the third data dump: this time for goalies.
| 1901 | Club | GP | GA | SO | GA/GP | Avg. Oppo. GF/GP | GSAA |
| Chittick, Fred | Ottawa | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0.0 | 3.88 | 3.9 |
| Lockerby, Archie | Victorias | 1 | 2 | 2.0 | 3.50 | 1.5 | |
| Hutton, John Bouse | Ottawa | 7 | 20 | 2.9 | 3.88 | 6.9 | |
| McKenna, James H. | Shamrocks | 8 | 25 | 3.1 | 3.97 | 7.0 | |
| O'Meara, Mark | Quebec | 1 | 4 | 4.0 | 4.25 | 0.3 | |
| Munro, Fred | Victorias | 7 | 30 | 4.3 | 3.50 | -5.6 | |
| Nicholson, Billy | Montreal | 8 | 37 | 4.6 | 4.03 | -4.6 | |
| Stocking, Frank | Quebec | 7 | 38 | 5.4 | 4.25 | -8.1 | |
| 1902 | Club | GP | GA | SO | GA/GP | Avg. Oppo. GF/GP | GSAA |
| Billy Nicholson | Montreal | 8 | 15 | 2 | 1.7 | 3.50 | 14.4 |
| Bouse Hutton | Ottawa | 8 | 15 | 2 | 1.7 | 3.63 | 15.4 |
| Archie Lockerby | Victorias | 6 | 15 | 2.5 | 3.59 | 6.5 | |
| Paddy Moran | Quebec | 8 | 34 | 4.3 | 3.91 | -3.1 | |
| Fred Munro | Victorias | 2 | 10 | 5.0 | 3.59 | -2.8 | |
| Patrick O'Reilly | Shamrocks | 8 | 62 | 7.8 | 4.25 | -28.4 | |
| 1903 | Club | GP | GA | SO | GA/GP | Avg. Oppo. GF/GP | GSAA |
| Archie Lockerby | Victorias | 3 | 6 | 2.0 | 4.41 | 7.2 | |
| Billy Nicholson | Montreal | 7 | 19 | 1 | 2.7 | 4.76 | 14.4 |
| Bouse Hutton | Ottawa | 8 | 26 | 2 | 3.3 | 4.44 | 9.1 |
| Jim Nichol | Victorias | 5 | 27 | 5.4 | 4.41 | -5.0 | |
| Paddy Moran | Quebec | 7 | 46 | 6.6 | 4.84 | -12.3 | |
| Patrick O'Reilly | Shamrocks | 8 | 56 | 7.0 | 5.25 | -14.0 | |
| 1904 | Club | GP | GA | SO | GA/GP | Avg. Oppo. GF/GP | GSAA |
| Hutton, John Bouse | Ottawa | 4 | 15 | 3.8 | 7.04 | 13.0 | |
| Nichol, Jim | Victorias | 8 | 48 | 6.0 | 6.44 | 3.5 | |
| Moran, Paddy | Quebec | 6 | 37 | 6.2 | 6.27 | 0.4 | |
| Waugh, Oliver | Montreal | 5 | 32 | 6.4 | 7.51 | 5.6 | |
| Brophy, Fred | Montreal | 1 | 8 | 8.0 | 7.51 | -0.5 | |
| Mike Kenny | Shamrocks | 4 | 35 | 8.8 | 7.59 | -4.8 | |
| S. Price | Montreal | 1 | 9 | 9.0 | 7.51 | -1.5 | |
| James Cloran | Shamrocks | 3 | 39 | 13.0 | 7.59 | -16.2 | |
| 1905 | Club | GP | GA | SO | GA/GP | Avg. Oppo. GF/GP | GSAA |
| Nathan Frye | Victorias | 8 | 32 | 4.0 | 6.33 | 18.6 | |
| Oliver Waugh | Montreal | 9 | 42 | 4.7 | 6.24 | 13.9 | |
| Paddy Moran | Quebec | 9 | 45 | 5.0 | 5.65 | 5.9 | |
| Mike Kenny | Shamrocks | 9 | 62 | 6.9 | 6.56 | -3.1 | |
| Fred Brophy | Westmount | 6 | 49 | 8.2 | 5.73 | -14.8 | |
| Edgar Darling | Westmount | 3 | 26 | 8.7 | 5.73 | -8.9 | |
| Joseph Cattarinich | Le National | 4 | 42 | 10.5 | 6.33 | -16.7 |
| 1904 FAHL | Club | GP | GA | SO | GA/GP | Avg. Oppo. GF/GP | GSAA |
| Nicholson, Billy | Wanderers | 6 | 18 | 0 | 3.0 | 4.17 | 7.0 |
| Grenier | Capitals | 1 | 4 | 0 | 4.0 | 4.72 | 0.7 |
| Hunter, Jack | Cornwall | 6 | 27 | 0 | 4.5 | 5.17 | 4.0 |
| Henri Menard | Le National | 6 | 27 | 0 | 4.5 | 4.78 | 1.7 |
| Moffatt | Capitals | 2 | 12 | 0 | 6.0 | 4.72 | -2.6 |
| Cope, A. | Capitals | 2 | 15 | 0 | 7.5 | 4.72 | -5.6 |
| Hurdman | Capitals | 1 | 10 | 0 | 10.0 | 4.72 | -5.3 |
| 1905 FAHL | Club | GP | GA | SO | GA/GP | Avg. Oppo. GF/GP | GSAA |
| Finnie, Dave | Ottawa | 8 | 19 | 2 | 2.4 | 3.59 | 9.5 |
| Baker, W. | Wanderers | 7 | 23 | 0 | 3.3 | 4.09 | 5.5 |
| Kerr | Brockville | 8 | 30 | 0 | 3.8 | 4.41 | 4.9 |
| Lavigne | Montagnards | 1 | 4 | 0 | 4.0 | 4.88 | 0.9 |
| Brighton | Wanderers | 1 | 4 | 0 | 4.0 | 4.09 | 0.1 |
| Hunter, Jack | Cornwall | 8 | 37 | 0 | 4.6 | 4.91 | 2.5 |
| Menard, Henri | Montagnards | 7 | 58 | 0 | 8.3 | 4.88 | -23.9 |
| 1902 WPHL | Club | GP | GA | SO | GA/GP | Avg. Opponent GF | GSAA |
| Riley Hern | Keystones | 14 | 32 | 2.3 | 2.61 | 4.5 | |
| 1903 WPHL | Club | GP | GA | SO | GA/GP | Avg. Opponent GF | GSAA |
| Riley Hern | Keystones | 12 | 61 | 5.1 | 3.42 | -20.0 |
| 1905 IPHL | Club | GP | GA | SO | GA/GP | Avg. Opponent GF | GSAA |
| Billy Nicholson | Calumet | 24 | 75 | 3.1 | 3.73 | 14.5 | |
| Chief Jones | Michigan Soo | 24 | 79 | 3.3 | 4.25 | 23.0 | |
| Riley Hern | Portage Lakes | 24 | 81 | 3.4 | 4.07 | 16.6 | |
| Pete Maltman | Canadian Soo | 24 | 140 | 5.8 | 4.08 | -42.0 | |
| Jack Winchester | Pittsburgh Pros | 24 | 144 | 6.0 | 4.24 | -42.3 |
The accumulated GSAA from 1886-87 to 1904-05 for players of interest:
| Career up to 1905 | GP | GSAA | GSAA/GP | Notes |
| Hutton, John Bouse | 36 | 56.7 | 1.57 | |
| Nicholson, Billy | 57 | 54.0 | 0.95 | |
| Paton, Tom | 39 | 28.2 | 0.72 | |
| Collins, Herb | 52 | 26.0 | 0.50 | |
| Jones, Joseph “Chief” | 24 | 23.0 | 0.96 | Unsure how to use exhibition games in 1902-03 and 1903-04. |
| Lockerby, Archie | 10 | 15.3 | 1.53 | |
| Chittick, Fred | 32 | 14.7 | 0.46 | |
| Morel, Albert | 23 | 14.1 | 0.61 | |
| Lewis, Gordon | 20 | 7.5 | 0.37 | |
| Hunter, Jack | 14 | 6.5 | 0.46 | |
| Jones, Robert | 19 | 4.1 | 0.22 | |
| Hern, William “Riley” | 50 | 1.2 | 0.02 | Unsure how to use Portage Lakes exhibition games in 1903-04. |
| Moran, Patrick “Paddy” | 30 | -9.2 | -0.31 |
I think that it's pretty clear that the most accomplished goalie up until 1904-05 is John Bouse Hutton.
The accumulated GSAA from 1900-01 to 1904-05 for players of interest:
| Career, 1901 to 1905 | GP | GSAA | GSAA/GP | Notes |
| Nicholson, Billy | 53 | 45.8 | 0.86 | |
| Hutton, John Bouse | 27 | 44.4 | 1.64 | |
| Jones, Joseph “Chief” | 24 | 23.0 | 0.96 | Unsure how to use exhibition games in 1902-03 and 1903-04. |
| Lockerby, Archie | 10 | 15.3 | 1.53 | |
| Hunter, Jack | 14 | 6.5 | 0.46 | |
| Hern, William "Riley" | 50 | 1.2 | 0.02 | Unsure how to use Portage Lakes exhibition games in 1903-04. |
| Moran, Patrick "Paddy" | 30 | -9.2 | -0.31 |
Bouse Hutton retired in 1903-04 but is still almost the period leader in GSAA despite playing in only half of the games of Billy Nicholson.
It is worth noting that while Riley Hern and Paddy Moran are at the bottom of this list, they were both net positives by 1904-05 (+0.69 GSAA/GP for Hern and +0.66 GSAA/GP for Moran).
In 1904-05, with Hutton retired, Chief Jones of the Michigan Soo in the IPHL really might have been the best goalie in the world. (Nathan Frye and Oliver Waugh put up a show in the suddenly Ottawa-less CAHL, but they both fall back to Earth with the formation of the ECAHA next season.)
Another interesting goalie is Archie Lockerby, who doesn't have a large sample size, but he manages to be a net positive over three consecutive seasons. Perhaps he just wasn't really into unpaid hockey, or maybe he really did just get lucky over a ten-game stretch (even if it was spread over three seasons).
Lockerby is good call. He did good in that stint. He replaced Munroe after he was "ill and nervous".
I have one quote calling him "Best-ever type" from 1903. I can´t remeber or probably don´t even know why the Victorias had Nichol in 1903-1904. Nichol was quite eratic (came from Monreal A.A.A juniors IIRC). Lockerby played early in that season at intermediates. But in 1903 "playoffs"/"Stanley cup final" Lockerby was the trusted one even though Nichol played more in "regular season".
Overall there isn´t much I know about Lockerby. I have him playing Junior Vics in 1899. He tried comeback with Vics in 1906-1907, but they went with Frye. 1907-1908 he had injury filled and rather unsuccesful stint with Montreal A.A.A. So he "declined" quite quickly.
tarheelhockey
Offside Review Specialist
Lots of info to digest, and the lack of standardization across leagues makes it tough to judge, but here's a shot at a top-10 from this time period:
1. Russell Bowie
2. Frank McGee
3. Hod Stuart
4. Bouse Hutton
5. Lorne Campbell
6. Bruce Stuart
7. Blair Russel
8. Jack Marshall
9. Dickie Boon
10. Doc Gibson
HM: Rat Westwick, Alf Smith, Si Griffis, Ken Mallen, Harvey Pulford, Paddy Moran, Riley Hern, Chief Jones
1. Russell Bowie
2. Frank McGee
3. Hod Stuart
4. Bouse Hutton
5. Lorne Campbell
6. Bruce Stuart
7. Blair Russel
8. Jack Marshall
9. Dickie Boon
10. Doc Gibson
HM: Rat Westwick, Alf Smith, Si Griffis, Ken Mallen, Harvey Pulford, Paddy Moran, Riley Hern, Chief Jones
