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some people only blindly hate dion because they expect no mistakes all the time
That's right! How about the goalie bails the guy out - just once? Dion must feel he has to be perfect, or it's bloody goal.
some people only blindly hate dion because they expect no mistakes all the time
Give me number to back up your claim that Phaneuf has more flaws and makes more mistakes and is too inconsistent than any other D-man who plays similar minutes as him and is similar caliber.
I really dont think its about depth. The Bruins have only had one dangerous line this series, and I think we've been a bit better than that. We've matched their level of play for the last 3 games. The difference is that our turnovers have killed us, which is something that has been a problem all season.
The Bruins are very beatable right now, but we're playing sloppy hockey and can't capitalize on their weakness.
amazing thread
he is an elite dman, who needs some help
What would our defence be without him, we would be garbage
he is needed on the team, most of the time, does really well for us
i am glad he is on the team
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Where does the low hockey IQ comment come from? He is a defenceman who plays on the edge, not a stay at home guy. That is his game to pinch, that is his game to throw the big hit. Our D were pinching all OT trying to generate offence. It was almost like our guys knew Reimer would break before Rask, and they wanted to win it as quickly as they could.
Leafs need 2 defenders.
Phaneuf-Gunnarsson
Gardiner-Franson
Rielly-Granberg (Leafs' fans hope that the best prospects turn-out)
Take some pressure off Phaneuf, reduce his minutes keep him sharper.
One thing people tend to do is remove one player without replacing him.
If Phaneuf was not on the team they would go with this line-up:
no one - Gunnarson
Gardiner - Franson
Fraser - O'Bryne
To start with Phaneuf was acquired 2009-2010 season and if he had not been acquired I don't think Burke was so incompetent to not pursue other options.
If not Phaneuf someone else.
You can't just remove Phaneuf from the line-up and leave his $6 million a year on defense unspent without having other impacts.
For example, if he is so good and they replace him for some minor league defenseman where are the Leafs drafting? We get the same arguments with Kessel, that he's the best of Seguin, Hamilton and Knight, but if Kessel is such a positive influence on the team they aren't drafting 2nd. overall, they are drafting 1st. overall and then drafting much higher than 9th. overall.
Kind of like blaming JFj for trading Rask, and then suggesting 7 years later he is still the reason the Leafs aren't a contender.
By these arguments, the Leafs have had inept management for years, and no GM who has made a difference since 2006.
Very insulting comments about Fletcher, Burke, Nonis and the couple other x-GM's they've had under contract since JFj was fired.
What's this obsession about Phaneuf? Who cares...that's 6.5 million of poor defensive ability removed off the team. What makes him so valuable in your eyes?
He has low hockey IQ, this is undisputed. He wasn't even pinching for the puck in OT if you look at the replay. He went right for Horton's head and collided into Kessel. That's just plain stupid. If that was another Leaf D that Puck would be heading right for the net. He's not just hockey stupid I truly think this guy has low general intelligence.
I respect Phaneuf for telling the media he messed up and that's what a captain should always do, no matter if it's something good or bad.
Sometimes you got to take chances to win which Phaneuf did and it turned out to be the wrong idea.What else could he have said ?
I would have had more respect for the guy if he put the team before his hate for Horton and not made an idiotic pinch to try to lay the guy out .
Sometimes you got to take chances to win which Phaneuf did and it turned out to be the wrong idea.
He was lackluster on the PP, And I would have preferred Gardiner out there more.
But seriously, The hate for this guy is ridiculous and ignorant.
The guy played like an all-star all year, But because he made one bad pinch all that goes out the window.
Sometimes you got to take chances to win which Phaneuf did and it turned out to be the wrong idea.
Hating Horton makes way more sense.
Good thread, I had thought about creating one of these as well. I wish people would rewatch the play. Sure Dion made a bad pinch, but why is no one talking about kessel dishing the puck into no mans land and putting the captain into the position where he had to pinch. I mean it was the wrong decision but dion plays a risk/reward type of game.
How many times do people need to post excuses for this guy . It hasn't been one bad pinch , he's played like crap this entire series .
I really don't understand why some fans think he's a num 1 D , he has little lateral mobility , he doesn't make great outlet passes , he's adequate in our zone but that's about it . He doesn't produce much offense 5 on 5 unless he starts to go into rover mode . Most of his big hits are on plays where he leaves his position to blind side a guy who's not expecting it .
The guys a quality 2nd pair D who's forced to play as a 1st pair D because we have no one else capable of playing in that role .
Do you enjoy losing because it seems that way since you have no problem defending every idiotic play our supposed leader(s) make .