Prospect Info: Detroit Red Wings Annual Prospect Poll! #5!

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

1. Simon Edvinsson - LD
2. Marco Kasper - C
3. Jonatan Berggren - W
4. Sebastian Cossa - G
5. FIGHT!!!

For those of you upset I don't have Kienan Draper on this poll, please understand it's because I only want 10 names in each poll.

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[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I think very highly of Albert Johansson. He can be a risk taker but I also think he's got the potential to be a game breaker with his speed and shot. There were a lot of Farjestad games that he looked like a 4th forward on the ice. To unlock the best he has to offer I think he would be great next to Seider, or if Detroit found a lockdown RD like Cernak to pair with him.

 

[Frk It]

Wallinder for me.

Johansson is a good player, reminds me of Kronwall. Kronwall needs to get him closer to the weight he played at, then we can talk.

Soderblom and Mazur are legitimate options here. James, Buch, and Buium could be in the conversation for this spot next year possibly.

Add Sebrango

 

[Hen Kolland]

Right now, I am torn between the last three big Swedes. I like Mazur and think he plays in the NHL, but I don't view him as any more certain than AlJo, Elmer, or Wallinder. Maybe Wallinder, but the growth that Wallinder displayed in Rogle last year has given more substance than he had in years past. That and my perception that Wallinder has the highest ceiling of that group of four makes him my vote here

 

[Ricelund]

Tough choice here between Soderblom, Wallinder, and Johansson for me. I ended up going with Soderblom just because I hope he becomes a 6’8 goal scoring machine.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

Jeez you’re ripping through these

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Johansson is a good player, reminds me of Kronwall. Kronwall needs to get him closer to the weight he played at, then we can talk.

That's what I see a lot of in Johansson's game. Young Kronwall before the knee injuries was a fantastic skater but also skinny as a rail just like Johansson and was always pretty physical despite his size. Johansson has shown the ability to throw some good open ice checks like Kronwall and they both play/played at high pace.

I think where the big difference between Kronwall and Johansson is, is Johansson has a really good shot. I can imagine him getting 15+ goals as an NHL defenseman able to shoot from all ranges with effectiveness.

I was a huge proponent of Wallinder at #33 and was super happy Detroit picked him. I've enjoyed watching his game evolve in Rogle and believe that he has very high potential. What I don't like is that Wallinder hasn't upped his pace enough. If he played at the same pace as Johansson or Kasper then you're looking at a guy that would be in the discussion as the 2nd or 3rd best prospect in Detroit instead of 5th to 7th best.

 

[HisNoodliness]

I voted Johansson at 4 because I think he has top 4 upside and is pretty far along the development path to getting there. I don't really feel that Wallinder, Viro, AJo 2.0, Buium, Sebrango, etc have any higher upside but they're further back in their development. Soderblom or Mazur, I don't think have quite the upside of Johansson and the rest of the forwards feel really unpredictable at this point.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Disappointed by the lack of exclamation marks in this one

 

[jaster]

Watching Wallinder in the WJC convinced me he likely hasn't taken the steps forward a lot of people have talked about the past several months in terms of becoming a legit NHL player. Too many brainfarts below the dots, too easily forechecked, questionable panic threshold. Projection-wise, he's still borderline terrifying to me in his own end.

Once he gets moving, he seems to be a dependable PMD and the puck ceases to be a hand grenade for him. But he's got a ways to go.

 

[jaster]

Johansson for me, though we do seem to be in the midst of a pretty tight grouping of several kids.

Add Savage.

 

[Frk It]

Changed my vote to Soderblom. Y’all vote for that 160 something lb defenseman tho…

 

[jaster]

Changed my vote to Soderblom. Y’all vote for that 160 something lb defenseman tho…

I've been going back and forth here too. Other than for the kids who just played in the WJC, this is a difficult time of year to rank a lot of these prospects. Will be fun to watch them sort themselves out in the coming months.

 

[Frk It]

I've been going back and forth here too. Other than for the kids who just played in the WJC, this is a difficult time of year to rank a lot of these prospects. Will be fun to watch them sort themselves out in the coming months.

I better see him at like 175/180 on the Grand Rapids in a month or two, all I’m saying.

Someone needs to get him on the Brian Cushing workout plan.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

The more I’ve watched Johansson, the more I’m convinced he’s a player who will never make an impact at the NHL level. He and Berggren are two players I just don’t think will ever have the impact that folks expect.

It is a close call between several players here. I’ll go with Soderblom, although my gut tells me Mazur is easier to fit into a lineup.

 

[ChadS]

Changed my vote to Soderblom. Y’all vote for that 160 something lb defenseman tho…

I almost posted earlier about how it was surprising to see Johansson > Söderblom in the vote, but that's flipped now. They're both nice prospects to have but Söderblom showed some pretty amazing development last season and has a very rare skill set, so I consider his upside worth ranking pretty high especially now that he's put up a great SHL season (arguably better than Johansson).

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

I better see him at like 175/180 on the Grand Rapids in a month or two, all I’m saying.

Someone needs to get him on the Brian Cushing workout plan.

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Steroids? That isn't libel either to say about Cushing...

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Would vote Wallinder but makes no difference, so went with The Mountain. Add Savage.

 

[Frk It]

Steroids? That isn't libel either to say about Cushing...

Yeah, that's not the transformation of someone who is 'all natural'.... lol.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Changed my vote to Soderblom. Y’all vote for that 160 something lb defenseman tho…

Traitor!

 

[Rzombo4 prez]

Sebrango over the three Swedes

 

[Frk It]

Would vote Wallinder but makes no difference, so went with The Mountain. Add Savage.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Is 60 votes good enough to move onto the next poll? This one is pretty close still.

 

[Frk It]

Is 60 votes good enough to move onto the next poll? This one is pretty close still.

@The Zetterberg Era - Didn't we used to let each of these run for 24 hours in years past? I don't remember.

 

[ChadS]

@The Zetterberg Era - Didn't we used to let each of these run for 24 hours in years past? I don't remember.

Yeah we definitely need to chill out a bit here with the pace lol Of course if it's obvious we can move on but this one is clearly not done yet.