Prospect Info: Detroit Red Wings 2021 Summer Prospect #7

[Winger98]

1.) Moritz Seider - RD - 20: 6'4" 207 lbs - RH Shot - Zell, GER - 96.2%
2.) Lucas Raymond - LW/RW - 19: 5'10"183 lbs - RH Shot - Goteborg, SWE - 85.1%
3.) Simon Edvinsson - LD - 18: 6'5" 207 lbs - LH Shot - Onsala, SWE - 70.1%
4.) Sebastian Cossa - G - 18: 6'6'' 212 lbs - LC catching glove - Fort McMurray, AL, CAN - 47.8%
5.) Jonatan Berggren - LW/RW- 21: 5'11'' 183 lbs - LH Shot - Uppsala, SWE - 75.5%
6.) Joe Veleno - C - 21: 6'1'' 194 lbs - LH Shot - Kirkland, QC, CAN - 69.1%

Veleno gets on the board at #6. Add is Donovan Sebrango

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[Kingpin794]

Things will get interesting after 7

 

[HisNoodliness]

I think you could have argued Johansson as high as 4 (in fact I'd have him at 5 above Cossa but behind Berggren) and everyone else left has either low-upside or is a project. I think he has a good shot at being a smooth-skating reliable but offensively capable second pairing D. I can't point to anything that should prevent him from reaching that projection or higher even. He can really do it all, he has a good shot, handles pressure well, decent hands, good passer, great wheels and defends well. At ~6' his size shouldn't be an issue, but he's not a giant like the rest of our blue line prospects. I guess if I had a complaint it's that he doesn't have skill that really pops to suggest he has first pairing upside (unless he's playing second-fiddle to a truly elite 1D)

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Easily Johansson here.

 

[r0bert8841]

Johansson. I am curious who everyone picks next. I am not sure who I will choose. I wish I had a larger sample of some of these NCAA guys.

 

[Frk It]

Johansson by a lot.

Add Kivenmaki

 

[Konnan511]

AlJo by a mile, this should wrap up in the next hour?

 

[jaster]

Add Pearson. He's eligible for the Calder, yes?

 

[Winger98]

I know folks are going to go hard for Allllllbert, but my pick is McIsaac. I think folks are sleeping on the guy because of injuries. Maybe he wrecks his shoulders again, but if he stays healthy I think he's going to put up a good year in GR and inject himself into the conversation for a top4 spot within a year.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I know folks are going to go hard for Allllllbert, but my pick is McIsaac. I think folks are sleeping on the guy because of injuries. Maybe he wrecks his shoulders again, but if he stays healthy I think he's going to put up a good year in GR and inject himself into the conversation for a top4 spot within a year.

I'm hoping you're right because McIsaac is a guy I always thought could be a terrific #4 guy that plays all the tough situations; last minute with a lead, the bulk of PK minutes, and tough matchups against the other team's biggest and strongest guys. But I'm genuinely worried about the shoulder injuries.

In another thread we were discussing how a shoulder injury transformed Kyle Quincey's game for the worse, Dillon Fournier retired in 2017 after chronic shoulder problems, Tarasenko being out with his 3rd shoulder injury, Nyquist missing all of last season with a shoulder problem, then there's Oscar Klefblom more recently who might retire...

It's hard to ignore that his type of chronic injury problem has ruined many recent NHL players.

 

[HisNoodliness]

I know folks are going to go hard for Allllllbert, but my pick is McIsaac. I think folks are sleeping on the guy because of injuries. Maybe he wrecks his shoulders again, but if he stays healthy I think he's going to put up a good year in GR and inject himself into the conversation for a top4 spot within a year.

Yeah, I want to believe in McIsaac still but he's just lost so much development time at this point. Even if he stays healthy I'm not sure he can recover from all that lost time- and that's a really big if at this point. I loved the pick, I agree that he has the tools to be a very effective Dman, but compared to Johansson whom has essentially no red flags, McIsaac is just way too uncertain for me. I was having similar concerns about Berggren this time last year though; you're totally right that one good season can really transform a prospect's outlook.

 

[Winger98]

I'm hoping you're right because McIsaac is a guy I always thought could be a terrific #4 guy that plays all the tough situations; last minute with a lead, the bulk of PK minutes, and tough matchups against the other team's biggest and strongest guys. But I'm genuinely worried about the shoulder injuries.

In another thread we were discussing how a shoulder injury transformed Kyle Quincey's game for the worse, Dillon Fournier retired in 2017 after chronic shoulder problems, Tarasenko being out with his 3rd shoulder injury, Nyquist missing all of last season with a shoulder problem, then there's Oscar Klefblom more recently who might retire...

It's hard to ignore that his type of chronic injury problem has ruined many recent NHL players.

For sure. I know it's a gamble with his health but I've liked the guy for a long time, too. He's a guy who I think is either going to climb the ranks in a big way or just totally fall of the map after this season. If he gets hurt again...yeah, he's probably done as far as being a serious prospect.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Albert Johansson, Add Kivenmaki.

 

[Go Wings]

I know folks are going to go hard for Allllllbert, but my pick is McIsaac. I think folks are sleeping on the guy because of injuries. Maybe he wrecks his shoulders again, but if he stays healthy I think he's going to put up a good year in GR and inject himself into the conversation for a top4 spot within a year.

I'm a big McIsasc fan but I think because of his injuries he deserves to be lower on this list. However if he has a healthy bounce back year he will move up this list quickly.

 

[RabidBadger]

Sans injury, McIsaac would be my choice here, but it's AlJo this round. I was tempted to start beating the drum for Buium: he's an intriguing prospect with a good set of tools to work with. If he makes the WJC team I think his stock will go Gamestop crazy on this forum.

 

[golffuul]

I was actually a bit torn between Viro and Johansson. But I think Johansson has, potentially, the greater upside.

 

[Henkka]

Going with Niederbach.

 

[Gniwder]

Well, I said after pick #5 I'm going with highest probability of making the NHL, not highest ceiling.

AJ has the higher upside of being a middle pair, but I'm going with Sebrango who's almost a lock for the bottom pair. PLus he's got the advantage of playing in the AHL for both his D+1 and D+2 seasons.

 

[FabricDetails]

Voted for the one who look like a male sibling of Audrey Tautou.

I feel like some of the criteria in voting for AJ can also apply to Viro and so I imagine he'll win a vote soon.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Johansson.

Add Pearson.

 

[The Zermanator]

Johansson's my vote and looks like he's going to run away with it. I'm loving how this prospect pool has shaped up, haven't had this kind of depth before in the modern era. That's three solid blue chip prospects at the top, and four promising players at 4-7 who are all really close. Not much difference between Cossa at 4 and Johansson at 7. And all 4 of those guys would rank higher on a lot of prospect pools in the league.

 

[Vector Cereal]

Add Pearson. He's eligible for the Calder, yes?

Is this based on Calder eligibility? If so my add becomes Nedeljkovic by a mile. If he's a no go then my add is also Pearson

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Volatile prospect, but for me it is Wallinder. I had him top 15 in his draft class, he has a lot of projection but for me he has the highest upside remaining. I am hoping for a big step forward at Rogle, I love that move for his development.

Add is Pearson

 

[ricky0034]

Volatile prospect, but for me it is Wallinder. I had him top 15 in his draft class, he has a lot of projection but for me he has the highest upside remaining. I am hoping for a big step forward at Rogle, I love that move for his development.

Add is Pearson

yeah he's my #8

bit too much of a longshot for me to justify putting over Johansson/Berggren/Veleno but his upside is the highest in these polls since at least Cossa

 

[Pavels Dog]

Volatile prospect, but for me it is Wallinder. I had him top 15 in his draft class, he has a lot of projection but for me he has the highest upside remaining. I am hoping for a big step forward at Rogle, I love that move for his development.

Add is Pearson

Drafting Edvinsson, and the way Johansson and Viro are developing, kind of makes Wallinder's future on the Wings hard to see for me. I know that's perhaps not the main factor to consider in a poll like this, but he's just such a long-term project who I kind of expect to be thrown into a trade in a year or two and nobody really notices because we're all so hyped about other prospects.