Confirmed with Link: Derek Stepan PTO

[Unsustainable]

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[Anton Dubinchuk]

Feels like he played well enough last year to just sign him to a $900k contract and be done with it... idk, feels like a slap in the face.

 

[MadeUpName]

With the current roster it makes a lot of sense to put Drury up at 3LW and sign Stepan for 4C. As others have said before.

 

[Unsustainable]

He outplayed Marty on the 4th line, brought more to the table.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Feels like he played well enough last year to just sign him to a $900k contract and be done with it... idk, feels like a slap in the face.

Not as much of a slap in the face as no one else giving him an offer, apparently.

 

[MinJaBen]

Not as much of a slap in the face as no one else giving him an offer, apparently.

It's a buyer's market right now. Some guys are going to get squeezed hard and some will not get contracts.

 

[DaveG]

I wouldn't be surprised to see us bring in Stastny on a PTO as well.

Basically going to come down to Step or Noesen playing their way into the roster on the 4th line.

 

[HisIceness]

Good move, guy is a great depth piece. Solid veteran presence too.

 

[MrazeksVengeance]

SOMEONE EXPLAIN IN DUMB TALK.

 

[AD Skinner]

Man I wonder if he just had a hard time handling practices or something. He didn't look out of place in games, yeah he's old and slow but he didn't seem from what I could see on tv that the game had passed him by. Must be something they're seeing but who knows what

 

[sheriff bart]

I'd rather have him than Marty (from the outside looking in). Seems like a spot for a ute. Is this a solid to give a good soldier a chance to impress someone and get a deal?

 

[Discipline Daddy]

I'm still surprised we scratched him so much in the playoffs. Guy wasn't amazing but he was a great 4th liner. He knew where to be on the ice and didn't get caved in defensively. His effort and hitting was significantly less than Martinook, but I'd argue Stepan is the more effective player.

I think we just had to play KK as 4th line C and that meant Stepan wasn't going to see as much ice time. This year, he could get more looks.

Lastly, I'm pretty shocked he got a PTO. Clearly no one else was offering much. I wonder if part of it is one of the lesser teams like Anaheim or Zona just wasn't as appealing to him, and he liked this environment. Like, I see why he wasn't given $1.0M or more since no one has cap space, but I'm also surprised Stepan took this and didn't get a $750k offer from somebody else.

This is a nice addition to our team either way and I fully expect he'll be signed, particularly with the money we have with MaxPac on LTIR.

 

[MinJaBen]

SOMEONE EXPLAIN IN DUMB TALK.

We're now in hockey's version of a "friends with benefits" relationship with Stepan.

 

[Chrispy]

SOMEONE EXPLAIN IN DUMB TALK.

Stepan doesn't want to be sent down to the Wolves if he doesn't make the Canes.

This way if he fails to make the Canes they can release him and he's free to look around for another job if someone gets hit with an injury bug or Covid.

I know there's a lot of questions of how he couldn't get a contract anywhere, but at this point if someone isn't giving him a guaranteed roster spot a PTO is probably best for him during camp.

 

[Derailed75]

Stepan doesn't want to be sent down to the Wolves if he doesn't make the Canes.

This way if he fails to make the Canes they can release him and he's free to look around for another job if someone gets hit with an injury bug or Covid.

I know there's a lot of questions of how he couldn't get a contract anywhere, but at this point if someone isn't giving him a guaranteed roster spot a PTO is probably best for him during camp.

Also possible that he only had 1 or 2 offers and didnt like the places those offers came from!

 

[Navin R Slavin]

I'm sure that Stepan knows he's close to the end of his career, and I'm guessing he has good reason to believe that the Canes give him his best shot to get his name on that big shiny thing.

 

[raynman]

Probably wants another crack at the Cup. Other teams that could sign him to a contract aren’t going to be playing in May/June.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

What's the selling point with the player that makes this such a surprise? Stepan is pretty generic stylistically; he's neither fast nor physical. His statline was influenced by a prime-like shooting percentage. He won faceoffs at a good percentage, but it was a significant deviation from his career average (~9% better). Other teams may see that as a statistical fluke rather than a Brind'Amour effect

 

[raynman]

Lord Stanley was caught slippin today

 

[To Be Determined]

Feels like he played well enough last year to just sign him to a $900k contract and be done with it... idk, feels like a slap in the face.

I may be overthinking (or flat out wrong), but...

If they can make moves (stash some guys in the minors for opening day, say) to be juuuust cap compliant - including pacioretty's hit - on the first day of the season, that maximizes the ltir pool, right? If i'm remembering that correctly, maybe the pto is a placeholder to get stepan back in the fold, make it over the day one hurdle, then sign a deal using the ltir space?

I'm fuzzy on all this, and too lazy to look it up.

 

[Negan4Coach]

Sigh

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I may be overthinking (or flat out wrong), but...

If they can make moves (stash some guys in the minors for opening day, say) to be juuuust cap compliant - including pacioretty's hit - on the first day of the season, that maximizes the ltir pool, right? If i'm remembering that correctly, maybe the pto is a placeholder to get stepan back in the fold, make it over the day one hurdle, then sign a deal using the ltir space?

I'm fuzzy on all this, and too lazy to look it up.

I could be wrong, and very likely am, or I am misunderstanding your post, which is also possible, but I'm not sure what you suggests matter.

With Max on LTIR, they'll be cap compliant on day 1 with the LTIR space. The team will have that maximum LTIR space at their disposal from day 1 until he comes off LTIR.

The only reason to stash guys in the minors would be to not use LTIR space so that you can accrue cap space for a possible deadline deal (which you can't do if you are using LTIR to go over the cap). In that regards, signing Stepan hurts that more than helps it.

 

[MinJaBen]

Lord Stanley was caught slippin today

Probably still in LA for his reunion, so out of the loop.

 

[To Be Determined]

I could be wrong, and very likely am, or I am misunderstanding your post, which is also possible, but I'm not sure what you suggests matter.

With Max on LTIR, they'll be cap compliant on day 1 with the LTIR space. The team will have that maximum LTIR space at their disposal from day 1 until he comes off LTIR.

The only reason to stash guys in the minors would be to not use LTIR space so that you can accrue cap space for a possible deadline deal (which you can't do if you are using LTIR to go over the cap). In that regards, signing Stepan hurts that more than helps it.

Yeah - i didn't explain it well. Mostly because i'm on the outer edge of my understanding.

We'll be compliant either way. It is just a matter of how much space the ltir creates. Hell, it probably doesn't matter in actual practice. If they are cap compliant day one, they lock in the full 7 million to play with. If they are 2 million over on day one they only lock in 5 million.

I'm thinking since it locks on day one they'd want to maximize it. But i'm really somewhere around 98% just talking out my ass. Slow night, what can i say?

 

[Navin R Slavin]

I wish I understood LTIR.

I mean, not so much that I'm willing to lift a damned finger to figure it out. But still.