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[VanIslander]

Datsyuk Dangles' team is in the finals?

Lehtonen in net, Spezza, Bozak, Helm, Steckel up the middle, A Marc Staal on the top pairing and Petry, DeKeyser, Weaver on the blueline?

No 'defense wins championships' formula here, nor experience, nor playoff grit.

The Murray Douglas's are amazingly overperforming.

Kuddos to DD for managing the draft though. It's the second good one of his I can recall participating in.

 

[LarKing]

Bait taken

Datsyuk Dangles' team is in the finals?

Lehtonen in net, Spezza, Bozak, Helm, Steckel up the middle, A Marc Staal on the top pairing and Petry, DeKeyser, Weaver on the blueline?

Lehtonen a top 5 goalie in net? A first line center, a second line center with Kessel, a third line center, and a fourth line center? A top pairing defenseman on the top pairing? Petry, Dekeyser, and Weaver as my three worst defensemen? Not sure what is out place at all here.

No 'defense wins championships' formula here, nor experience, nor playoff grit.

My team has a good defense, and an even better offense. If teams with little playoff experience never won the Cup, teams like the Hawks would never have won, same with LA, same with Pittsburgh. I just listed three of the last five Cup winners? Whoa.

Oh and just because I can:

Cup Winners: Helm, Eaves
Cup Finals: Spezza, Alfredsson, Asham
Conference Finals: Prospal, Staal, Clowe, Eriksson
Conference Semi-Finals: Steckel, Dekeyser, Markov, Nyquist
Conference Quarter Finals: Lehtonen, Weaver, Kessel, Bozak

So a total of three players from my team have never made the playoffs, one who was a rookie last year and is my backup goalie.

The Murray Douglas's are amazingly overperforming.

That, or nobody agrees with your opinion.

Kuddos to DD for managing the draft though. it's the second good one of his I can recall participating in.

Thanks

 

[VanIslander]

Conference Semi-Finals: Steckel, Dekeyser, Markov, Nyquist
Conference Quarter Finals: Lehtonen, Weaver, Kessel, Bozak

Is this really significant?

And as for your centers, I've watched Spezza since he was booed in Windsor (where I went to uni) for gutless effort in tight-checking games. Bozak is no championship-calibre second line option.

His skating ability, play without the puck and physical toughness are all average, at best. Can be guilty of overhandling the puck at times. Turns the puck over a lot while trying to create offense. Needs to stay focused.

http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockeynews/hockey/player.php?2299

The emperor wears no clothes (except on top-6 wing).

We can agree to disagree about the squad.

 

[How Ya Drouin]

Is this really significant?

And as for your centers, I've watched Spezza since he was booed in Windsor (where I went to uni) for gutless effort in tight-checking games. Bozak is no championship-calibre second line option.

The emperor wears no clothes (except on top-6 wing).

We can agree to disagree about the squad.

Not related to this argument, but The Hockey News' Flaws section literally pulls out any doubt from the players' past to find flaws. Take for an example, Malkin:

"Can struggle on face-offs. Isn't as dominant when he plays either wing position, since he is denied the puck more often along the wall. Takes bad penalties and is a little careless with the puck in the defensive zone."

Doesn't sound like the 2nd or 3rd best player in the world, does he?

 

[LarKing]

Is this really significant?

Well considering you implied my team had no playoff experience, yes. You also conveniently ignored my point about teams like the Hawks making the Conference Finals and winning the Cup with very little playoff experience.

And as for your centers, I've watched Spezza since he was booed in Windsor (where I went to uni) for gutless effort in tight-checking games. Bozak is no championship-calibre second line option.

Spezza: 52 points in 56 playoff games including 22 points in 20 games in that Cup Finals appearance. Bozak with Kessel has proven he can put up second line center production with above average defensive play and being good at the dot.

We can agree to disagree about the squad.

Not sure what posting a picture and some quote from some random source has to do with this. I hope you're not using that as your source against my team.

 

[LarKing]

Not related to this argument, but The Hockey News' Flaws section literally pulls out any doubt from the players' past to find flaws. Take for an example, Malkin:

"Can struggle on face-offs. Isn't as dominant when he plays either wing position, since he is denied the puck more often along the wall. Takes bad penalties and is a little careless with the puck in the defensive zone."

Doesn't sound like the 2nd or 3rd best player in the world, does he?

Exactly. They sound like any incredibly biased source to me.

 

[VanIslander]

...some quote from some random source...

The Hockey News?

Anyways, congrats again on making it to the finals.

There were several fantastic teams built to win the cup in 2013. I profiled some of them in power rankings (including the other finalist, Royals, 4th after two picks, 2nd after seven picks and 1st after three-quarter of the picks).

G'day.

 

[LarKing]

The Hockey News?

Anyways, congrats again on making it to the finals.

There were several fantastic teams built to win the cup in 2013. I profiled some of them in power rankings (including the other finalist, Royals, 4th after two picks, 2nd after seven picks and 1st after three-quarter of the picks).

G'day.

Your definition of contenders is literally just cup experience and defense. That's cool but clearly you have a different opinion than most people.

 

[LT]

DD you literally had the easiest matchups you could've gotten. No offense to their GMs, everyone did great, but how the **** did the Flames get to the CFs? And I'm still struggling to see how I got beat by the Jets when I have them outmatched at almost every position besides maybe my 3rd line. The team doesn't even have a starting goaltender for ****'s sake.

DD, I know you're insanely competitive just based off of working with you and all. I just do find it rather interesting that plenty of the stronger teams were either left out of the equation altogether or got knocked out very early on, besides Produce, who was the consensus top guy. I didn't expect to win, but I was sure as hell expecting to make it further than the 1st round.

The parity in this is just so close that it's rather interesting that the commissioner (who's also in charge of voting) is in the finals. I don't really blame you as you put a ton of work into this, but that doesn't make it right. I'd be interested to see proof of these results but it's obviously too late for that

i also thought we all agreed on doing polls for all of these until a mod moved them back here, but whatever.

 

[LarKing]

DD you literally had the easiest matchups you could've gotten. No offense to their GMs, everyone did great, but how the **** did the Flames get to the CFs? And I'm still struggling to see how I got beat by the Jets when I have them outmatched at almost every position besides maybe my 3rd line. The team doesn't even have a starting goaltender for ****'s sake.

DD, I know you're insanely competitive just based off of working with you and all. I just do find it rather interesting that plenty of the stronger teams were either left out of the equation altogether or got knocked out very early on, besides Produce, who was the consensus top guy. I didn't expect to win, but I was sure as hell expecting to make it further than the 1st round.

The parity in this is just so close that it's rather interesting that the commissioner (who's also in charge of voting) is in the finals. I don't really blame you as you put a ton of work into this, but that doesn't make it right. I'd be interested to see proof of these results but it's obviously too late for that

i also thought we all agreed on doing polls for all of these until a mod moved them back here, but whatever.

You're accusing me of cheating? Are you serious? I'll show you every single vote just because that pisses me off.

 

[LarKing]

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07-23-2013, 03:22 PM

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Royals
Murray Douglas's
Flames
Strudel
Cougars
Bandits
Jets
Power

are my votes for winners of the series


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07-23-2013, 04:05 PM

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playoff voting
Royals over 4th line plugs
Murray Douglas over MMOF
atlanta over montreal
VI over KLLR
Cougars over sauer michael
biznasty over seattle
jets over dallas
pittsburgh over everyone


07-23-2013, 04:13 PM

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1. Victoria Royals Vs. 16. 4thLinePlugs
2. Murray Douglas's Vs. 15. MollyMollyOxenFree
3. Atlanta Flames Vs. 14. Montreal Canadiens
4. People's Strudel Vs. 13. Hamilton Tigers
5. California Cougars Vs. 12. Michael Sauers
6. Seattle Cyborgs Vs. 11. Biznasty Bandits
7. Dallas Stars Vs. 10. Winnipeg Jets
8. Pittsburgh Power Vs. 9. Peoria Lions


07-23-2013, 04:14 PM

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Sorry I forgot to send in standings votes


Quote:
Originally Posted by Datsyuk Dangles View Post
1. Victoria Royals Vs. 16. 4thLinePlugs
2. Murray Douglas's Vs. 15. MollyMollyOxenFree
3. Atlanta Flames Vs. 14. Montreal Canadiens
4. People's Strudel Vs. 13. Hamilton Tigers
5. California Cougars Vs. 12. Michael Sauers
6. Seattle Cyborgs Vs. 11. Biznasty Bandits
7. Dallas Stars Vs. 10. Winnipeg Jets
8. Pittsburgh Power Vs. 9. Peoria Lions

PM me your votes. Feel free to argue why your team should win over your opponent's.
Royals
Murray Douglas'
Canadiens
Strudels
Cougars
Bandits
Jets
Lions


07-23-2013, 04:17 PM

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4thLinePlugs
MollyMollyOxenFree
Montreal Canadiens
People's Strudel
California Cougars
Biznasty Bandits
Abstain. They both suck
Peoria Lions


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07-23-2013, 04:23 PM

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16. 4thLinePlugs over 1. Victoria Royals
15. MollyMollyOxenFree over 2. Murray Douglas's
14. Montreal Canadiens over 3. Atlanta Flames
4. People's Strudel over 13. Hamilton Tigers
5. California Cougars over 12. Michael Sauers
11. Biznasty Bandits over 6. Seattle Cyborgs
10. Winnipeg Jets over 7. Dallas Stars
8. Pittsburgh Power over 9. Peoria Lions


07-23-2013, 04:29 PM

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1. Victoria Royals
2. Murray Douglas's
14. Montreal Canadiens
13. Hamilton Tigers
5. California Cougars
11. Biznasty Bandits
7. Dallas Stars
9. Peoria Lions


07-23-2013, 04:42 PM

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Fantasy Draft Round 1 Vote
1. Victoria Royals > 4th Line Plugs
2. Murray Douglas' > Mollymollyoxenfree
3. Atlanta Flames > Montreal Canadiens
4. People's Strudel > Hamilton Tigers
5. California Cougars < Michael Sauers
6. Seattle Cyborgs > Biznasty Bandits
7. Dallas Stars > Winnipeg Jets
8. Pittsburgh Power < Peoria Lions


07-23-2013, 04:49 PM

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1. Victoria Royals Vs. 16. 4thLinePlugs - Victoria
2. Murray Douglas's Vs. 15. MollyMollyOxenFree - Murray Douglas
3. Atlanta Flames Vs. 14. Montreal Canadiens - Atlanta
4. People's Strudel Vs. 13. Hamilton Tigers - People's
5. California Cougars Vs. 12. Michael Sauers - California
6. Seattle Cyborgs Vs. 11. Biznasty Bandits - Biznatsy
7. Dallas Stars Vs. 10. Winnipeg Jets - Winnipeg
8. Pittsburgh Power Vs. 9. Peoria Lions - Pittsburgh


07-23-2013, 05:05 PM

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Victoria Royals
Murray Douglas's
Montreal Canadiens
People's Strudel
California Cougars
Seattle Cyborgs
Dallas Stars
Peoria Lions


07-23-2013, 05:48 PM

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Playoff votes (Sorry for not sending standings)
Royals
Murray Douglas
Montreal
Strudels (LOL, what an easy matchup)
California
Biznasty
Jets
Power


07-23-2013, 09:21 PM

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round 1 vote
Victoria Royals
Murray Douglas's
Atlanta Flames
Hamilton Tigers
California Cougars
Seattle Cyborgs
Winnipeg Jets
Peoria Lions


07-24-2013, 11:32 PM

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1. Victoria Royals Vs. 11. Biznasty Bandits: Biznatsy
2. Murray Douglas's Vs. 10. Winnipeg Jets: Murray
3. Atlanta Flames Vs. 8. Pittsburgh Power: Atlanta
4. People's Strudel Vs. 5.California Cougars : People's Strudel


07-24-2013, 11:52 PM

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Semi-finals vote
Victoria Royals
Winnipeg Jets
Atlanta Flames
California Cougars


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Voting for FD
Bandits over royals
Douglas over jets
Power over flames
Strudel over Cougars


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Datsyuk Dangles View Post
Playoff Semi-Finals Match-ups

1. Victoria Royals Vs. 11. Biznasty Bandits
2. Murray Douglas's Vs. 10. Winnipeg Jets
3. Atlanta Flames Vs. 8. Pittsburgh Power
4. People's Strudel Vs. 5.California Cougars

PM me your votes. Feel free to argue why your team should win over your opponent's.
Royals
Murray Douglas'
Power
Cougars


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Murray Douglas
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Strudels


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Fantasy draft playoff vote Rnd 2
1. Vitctoria Royals > 11. Biznasty Bandits
2. Murray Douglas' > 10. Winnipeg Jets
3. Atlanta Flames > 8. Pittsburgh Power
5. California Cougars > 4. People's Strudel


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Results
Royals over Bandits
Douglas's over Jets
Flames over Power
Cougars over Strudel


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voting (YOLO)
11. Biznasty Bandits OVER 1. Victoria Royals (cause of the name)
10. Winnipeg Jets OVER 2. Murray Douglas's (bias opinion and cause i feel i have better depth )
3. Atlanta Flames OVER 8. Pittsburgh Power (cause Ben doesn't deserve votes)
4. People's Strudel OVER 5.California Cougars (cause of the name)


Now go and ask ANY of those people if that is incorrect.

 

[LT]

Okay then. If you've got the rankings I want to see those too.

 

[BigBenSF*]

I think the ranking of the teams kind of messed up the whole process; it was biased towards the five or so people who voted for the initial seeds. More people should have voted to get a bigger sample size yet only a couple voted. I'll admit I was at fault here; I disregarded this game when LT's game started.

IDK. DD has done the best job he could do and I thank him for it.

 

[LarKing]

Also, I wanted to do them all by polls but I didn't want to put up 8 polls and have the mods expect something and move them

 

[The Produce Man]

The opinion I have formed of DD from my time watching him grow as a GM, and later into a commissioner and then a guy who runs games is this: he's extremely competitive, works hard and plays these games the right way. I would never, ever think of him doing anything to sway things in his favour, let alone fix the results of team standings and playoff matches. His team is good, and is easily a top 5 team in this game.

I am also guilty of not voting for standings, and I'm sure the lack of effort by myself and many others did alter the way the results could have been.

 

[FlamesFreak4]

Congrats to the two finalists(especially the royals who look to have the win)
It's a shame some people have to cry and claim cheating when their team gets eliminated.

Thanks for running this draft DD

 

[LarKing]

Congrats to Produce on winning the Cup! He got the best of me this time in the polls, just don't expect it to happen again Produce . Thank you to all the people who stayed active, especially Jay who took this over for large portions of the draft.

I don't know when the next time I'll be able to run one of these again will be. I'll be too busy at college ****ing hot girls and partying.

 

[LarKing]

Loljk

 

[LarKing]

Congrats to the two finalists(especially the royals who look to have the win)
It's a shame some people have to cry and claim cheating when their team gets eliminated.

Thanks for running this draft DD

No problem, thanks.

 

[LarKing]

The opinion I have formed of DD from my time watching him grow as a GM, and later into a commissioner and then a guy who runs games is this: he's extremely competitive, works hard and plays these games the right way. I would never, ever think of him doing anything to sway things in his favour, let alone fix the results of team standings and playoff matches. His team is good, and is easily a top 5 team in this game.

I am also guilty of not voting for standings, and I'm sure the lack of effort by myself and many others did alter the way the results could have been.

Thanks Produce, means a lot coming from the second best GM in these games

Cue KLLR in 3.......2.........1.........

 

[JayP812]

Congrats to Produce on winning the Cup! He got the best of me this time in the polls, just don't expect it to happen again Produce . Thank you to all the people who stayed active, especially Jay who took this over for large portions of the draft.

I don't know when the next time I'll be able to run one of these again will be. I'll be too busy at college ****ing hot girls and partying.

My pleasure DD. Also thanks to WCB who ran it when I couldn't. Congrats to Produce and all GMs who participated on a successful game.

 

[LarKing]

yeah, thanks for keeping the draft board updated GFS and WCB, I would've never been able to keep up without you two

 

[The Produce Man]

Thank you, thank you!

Great draft guys, a well run game with great efforts from guys like Jay, WCB and GFS assisting DD along the way.

 

[LT]

what about me?

 

[KesselLooksLikeRadar*]

Thanks Produce, means a lot coming from the second best GM in these games

Cue KLLR in 3.......2.........1.........

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