David Desharnais part XIII- Third Star in Our Hearts Edition

[hototogisu]

Last thread was over the limit, continue here!

As always - discuss the player, not the posters.

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[Frozenice]

We need a man that is simple perfection
There's nothing that's harder to find
Someone to lead us protect us and feed us
And help us to make up our minds
We need a man that's sophisticated
Quiet and strong and well educated
Where to go what to do
Could it be somebody super like you
We need a man that can stand as a symbol
And symbols have got to be tall
Someone with taste and the tiniest waist
With his help would not life be a ball
If we had fun he would not restrain us
If we got caught he would just explain us
Where to go what to do
Could it be somebody super like you
We pledge allegiance to his gracefulness and charming manners
With a voice that's both sides choice he'll bring us to our knees in admiration
He is king of all who see and hear his perfect pitch
And more surprises when his time is come a stallion rises
We need a man with a head on his shoulders a nose that is simply divine
Hollywood smile and a perfect profile and with eyes that would sparkle and shine
Long flowing hair for a crowning glory
There'd be a man who could tell our story
Where to go what to do
Could it be somebody super like you
We pledge allegiance to his gracefulness and charming manners
With a voice that's both sides choice he'll bring us to our knees in admiration
He is king of all who see and hear his perfect pitch
And more surprises when his time is come a stallion rises
Rises...rises...rises

 

[Constable]

<3 desharnais (not really)

 

[Not The One]

Last thread was over the limit, continue here!

As always - discuss the player, not the posters.

Well, when you get to thread 13 for DD (plus the outflow in the gamethreads, Eller threads, Therrien threads, lineup threads), maybe IT IS the posters we should be discussing... because what's left, really?

 

[pepperMonkey]

Last thread was over the limit, continue here!

As always - discuss the player, not the posters.

You should really think about making DD threads as Sticky....it's the one constant thread that gets more attention than ANY other threads for well over the last 2-3 years... We must be approaching or gone over 20 maxed out threads by now.

 

[pepperMonkey]

Well, when you get to thread 13 for DD (plus the outflow in the gamethreads, Eller threads, Therrien threads, lineup threads), maybe IT IS the posters we should be discussing... because what's left, really?

We only had 2-3 maxed out DD threads this year? Could have sworn there a was more....

 

[JLP]

^ We could discuss his former career as a rapper

 

[Pricef*]

well, when you get to thread 13 for dd (plus the outflow in the gamethreads, eller threads, therrien threads, lineup threads), maybe it is the posters we should be discussing... Because what's left, really?

exactly!!

 

[Pricef*]

You should really think about making DD threads as Sticky....it's the one constant thread that gets more attention than ANY other threads for well over the last 2-3 years... We must be approaching or gone over 20 maxed out threads by now.[/QUOTE

You should also do the same with the Therrien and Eller Threads.

 

[pepperMonkey]

You should really think about making DD threads as Sticky....it's the one constant thread that gets more attention than ANY other threads for well over the last 2-3 years... We must be approaching or gone over 20 maxed out threads by now.

You should also do the same with the Therrien and Eller Threads.

Neither of them combined...heck, even add Ribeiro and Breezy, would even begin to come close to the amount of maxed out threads that DD alone has over the years.

 

[HabsDieHard*]

He's a player who is misused by the coach and is played above his limitations and as a result he draws a lot of ire from the fans.

 

[hototogisu]

You should really think about making DD threads as Sticky....it's the one constant thread that gets more attention than ANY other threads for well over the last 2-3 years... We must be approaching or gone over 20 maxed out threads by now.

DD threads are so active they don't need to be stickied, they're always at the top no matter what

 

[pepperMonkey]

DD threads are so active they don't need to be stickied, they're always at the top no matter what

Lol, you have a point there

 

[Monctonscout]

He's a player who is misused by the coach and is played above his limitations and as a result he draws a lot of ire from the fans.

How is he misused?

If anything he is put in the best situation to succeed...with a winger who he has chemistry with and in offensive situations.

The only people that think he is misused is those obsessed with "1st line/2nd line" labels and think that the top center has to play with the top LW and the top RW. As an example Kane and Toews have been the 2 best forwards in Chicago the last 5 years but they rarely play on the same line...does that mean Bickell is the "1st line winger" and Kane isn't when Bickel is with Toews and Kane with Handzus or Richards or (insert Hawks C)?

 

[HabsDieHard*]

How is he misused?

If anything he is put in the best situation to succeed...with a winger who he has chemistry with and in offensive situations.

The only people that think he is misused is those obsessed with "1st line/2nd line" labels and think that the top center has to play with the top LW and the top RW. As an example Kane and Toews have been the 2 best forwards in Chicago the last 5 years but they rarely play on the same line...does that mean Bickell is the "1st line winger" and Kane isn't when Bickel is with Toews and Kane with Handzus or Richards or (insert Hawks C)?

Chicago has players like Sharp and Hossa in the fold.

Toews is also an exceptional 2 way player who has never even had a point per game season in the NHL.

While Kane on the other hand has had multiple ppg seasons and is currently among the league leaders in points.

Pretty poor comparison in all honesty.

Kane and Toews are 2 of the biggest stars in the game and are incredibly different as players, which is waht makes them such a formidable duo for that franchise. That they play on separate lines doesn't somehow justify the Habs so often using their best forward with a center who isn't their best overall center, isn't their best 2 way center, and isn't their best goal scoring center.

Frankly the best position for Desharnais, if they insist on playing him at center, would be using him with Galchenyuk because Galchenyuk is another player who should be getting insulated minutes and favourable match ups as much as possible.

As well as he should be used spariingly on the power play, and maybe made part of a line that can be used as a post power play line to get some momentum. Something like him Prust and Gallagher (who is also not that great on the power play).

Comparing Kane and Toews' place on their team and somehow linking it to Dehsanrais and Pacioretty truly encompasses how badly people have to grasp at straws to justify the favourable and illogical place Desharnais has in the line up.

But hey, he won 3rd star of the week and will no doubt once again be an ineffective offensive player in the playoffs but Kane and Toews play on different lines in Chicago so of course it makes sense using Desharnais and Pacioretty together.

 

[Monctonscout]

Chicago has players like Sharp and Hossa in the fold.

Toews is also an exceptional 2 way player who has never even had a point per game season in the NHL.

While Kane on the other hand has had multiple ppg seasons and is currently among the league leaders in points.

Pretty poor comparison in all honesty.

Kane and Toews are 2 of the biggest stars in the game and are incredibly different as players, which is waht makes them such a formidable duo for that franchise. That they play on separate lines doesn't somehow justify the Habs so often using their best forward with a center who isn't their best overall center, isn't their best 2 way center, and isn't their best goal scoring center.

Frankly the best position for Desharnais, if they insist on playing him at center, would be using him with Galchenyuk because Galchenyuk is another player who should be getting insulated minutes and favourable match ups as much as possible.

As well as he should be used spariingly on the power play, and maybe made part of a line that can be used as a post power play line to get some momentum. Something like him Prust and Gallagher (who is also not that great on the power play).

Comparing Kane and Toews' place on their team and somehow linking it to Dehsanrais and Pacioretty truly encompasses how badly people have to grasp at straws to justify the favourable and illogical place Desharnais has in the line up.

But hey, he won 3rd star of the week and will no doubt once again be an ineffective offensive player in the playoffs but Kane and Toews play on different lines in Chicago so of course it makes sense using Desharnais and Pacioretty together.

It's not a comparison, just pointing out a clear example that "1st line" is overplayed on this board. A lot of teams build lines that work and don't care who is 1st line or 2nd line.

Not sure where you get that I'm suggesting Desharnais is the same caliber as them...that's a pretty big leap from saying Pacioretty being 1st line LW and Plekanec being the top C and Galllagher being the top RW don't all have to play on 1 line...not grasping at straws at all, it's something you see on a lot of teams.

 

[HabsDieHard*]

Desharnais does not produce enough offence to warrant his playing time next to this teams' most prolific goal scoring winger.

Desharnais does not bring a good enough 2 way game to warrant his playing time next to this teams' most prolific 2 way winger.

It has nothing to do with the classic "1st line" and no doubt spreading out the teams' depth is a good thing but there are other more logical ways to use Desharnais in the line up.

And you're absolutely right, Kane and Toews have nothing to do with this discussion at all. So why you brought them up is really beyond me.

 

[DangerDave]

Don't know if somebody already posted this but I think this will liven up the conversation. Check page 3 of this BleacherReport article!

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2358492-the-nhls-team-of-the-week-for-february-9

Edit: Article says he's trying to shoot the puck more often. I'll believe it when I see it. Hopefully he does though. He has a pretty good shot when given the time and space.

 

[Jamie Thomas]

They should do a highlight reel of his 3rd star of the week performance. That would be one for the ages.

 

[Monctonscout]

Desharnais does not produce enough offence to warrant his playing time next to this teams' most prolific goal scoring winger.

Desharnais does not bring a good enough 2 way game to warrant his playing time next to this teams' most prolific 2 way winger.

It has nothing to do with the classic "1st line" and no doubt spreading out the teams' depth is a good thing but there are other more logical ways to use Desharnais in the line up.

And you're absolutely right, Kane and Toews have nothing to do with this discussion at all. So why you brought them up is really beyond me.

So what do you suggest then? They play with no center?

Who cares about the "2 way crap", you're just pulling that out because it fits your agenda. Pacioretty was separated from Plekanec because the line and team wasn't scoring enough. Again, where are these "rules" written that your best "2 way center" has to play with your best "2 way winger"?

Desharnais is +8 the last 4 games, 2 of those games were 3-2 losses where he was +2. He isn't great defensively, but he can hold his own. What he lacks in size he makes up for it in quickness and effort.

 

[pepperMonkey]

They should do a highlight reel of his 3rd star of the week performance. That would be one for the ages.

Only Habs fans would ever make such a video....

 

[Hope Of Glory]

Meh, at least he's producing lately.

As long as Therrien doesn't stick with this line no matter what, even if it stops working for an extended period of time like it did last year (especially in the playoffs). It only took a few bad games to remove Galchy and Pleks from Pacioretty's line so it should be the same way if this line stops working, even more so if the rest of the lines have trouble scoring.

I didn't like this line at all but it's working so good for us I guess.

 

[Jigger77]

So what do you suggest then? They play with no center?

Who cares about the "2 way crap", you're just pulling that out because it fits your agenda. Pacioretty was separated from Plekanec because the line and team wasn't scoring enough. Again, where are these "rules" written that your best "2 way center" has to play with your best "2 way winger"?

Desharnais is +8 the last 4 games, 2 of those games were 3-2 losses where he was +2. He isn't great defensively, but he can hold his own. What he lacks in size he makes up for it in quickness and effort.

That and he reads the ice really well. Rarely caught out of position.

He's underrated defensively, if you pay close attention you'll see he's really good at getting in lanes and for a small guy he can play along the wall pretty well too. He gets over-powered at times though due to his lack of size, obviously.

 

[Nynja*]

^ We could discuss his former career as a rapper

He probably would have leeched somehow too. He would be a lil jon rapper, just screaming one of his four different catch-words over the other rappers and getting really really famous for it.

 

[CH25]

Here we go again

DD lovers all I ask of you is to look at the big picture.