Value of: Darnell Nurse

[Junohockeyfan]

Nurse has skill to gain control of the puck and push it up the ice. But in this scenario, he’s often passing to McDrai and they’re doing the work. It’s not that there’s no value in that but on the Oilers is the value of doing that over 9 million? Then, you consider his vast amount of soul crushing errors on defense and it’s fair to question where he’s a fit.

If you start at 9.25 M and consider he has some skill, you rationalize his worth more generously. But if you look at his greater role as not making big mistakes, his value is significantly less.

And that’s why you see disparity in opinions. Some see his mistakes. Some see his secondary assists to McDrai. WithNurse, the focus on mistakes seems to always become more intenisified in the playoffs.

He got exposed badly by Vegas. But IMO, he's overplayed. You should never have your 2nd pairing dmen playing against the opposing teams's best players for 24+ mins a game.

Putting aside his egregious salary, if Nurse is on a 2nd pairing, he will be an effective dman. Oilers need top-pairing D.

 

[John Mandalorian]

He exposed badly by Vegas. But IMO, he's overplayed. You should never have your 2nd pairing dmen playing against the opposing teams's best players for 24+ mins a game.

He *might be overplayed. You could be right. He could make less bad judgment plays (by not being over extended). But it’s not a guarantee.

 

[biturbo19]

Its not a good contract by any means but not close to the worst. Nurse is a 2nd pairing dman making 9+ million.

Since you want stats, concrete facts and figures...would you care to mention the current contracts that are actually worse?


Sure, proportionally you can try to downplay how overpaid he is. But in terms of actual gross impact, it far outstrips pretty much anything i can think of. It's simply crossed into that threshold of $$$ that absolutely has to be a key, core player. Which i don't think you want to rely on Nurse to be. It's at that point where, the amount he is "overpaid" could actually buy you an entirely extra pretty good player.

It's also an extremely long contract, so you're stuck building around Nurse until 2030. That's pretty catastrophic. I'm really struggling to come up with a worse contract.

Quinn looked fine on offense.......

And he looked fine defensively with Bear too. Obviously Hughes has been a player who, unlike Nurse...appears to still be growing exponentially defensively. But he was absolutely fine and part of his growth in that part of the game actually came while playing with Bear.


There's a reason pretty much every Canucks fan, and it sounds like Canucks management are very gung ho to get Bear signed and back into the lineup as soon as he's healthy and ready to go.

 

[Stealth1616]

That is exactly what he is. Worst contract in the NHL and it is not remotely close. The guy is a scrub.

Again, have stats to back that up or just get a kick being a troll ?

 

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Again, have stats to back that up or just get a kick being a troll ?

Are you kidding? Take your homer glasses off. Actually watch him play, he is terrible.

 

[Stealth1616]

Are you kidding? Take your homer glasses off. Actually watch him play, he is terrible.

Lol ok man, I’m sure you totally watch every oilers game.

So you don’t have any concrete evidence for your claim, got it

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Its not a good contract by any means but not close to the worst. Nurse is a 2nd pairing dman making 9+ million.

That’s f***ing awful, lol…doesn’t really help your argument

 

[ManofSteel55]

You can assign some blame to him for missing the net, but what percentage of blame do you assign to Nurse for forgetting there are two NHL hockey players behind him and leaking a totally preventable 2 on 0?

Just as much as everyone else on the ice. That wasn't a Nurse breakdown, it was a total system breakdown.

As usual, the highlight reel works against Nurse. But also as usual, the stats show he hasn't been as bad as most think he is. He plays the most minutes, against the toughest competition and his pair still has the lowest goals against per 60 and shots against per 60 on the team. Nurse's issue are that he is 1 - 2 M overpaid, and when he has breakdowns, they are highlight reel level breakdowns.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Are you kidding? Take your homer glasses off. Actually watch him play, he is terrible.

Those aren't stats bro.

 

[Roof Daddy]

How about this Blockbuster….

To BUF: McDavid, Nurse

To EDM: Dahlin, Cozens

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Avs should try to move him at the draft even if they have to include picks and retain some salary.

 

[CF84]

Avs should try to move him at the draft even if they have to include picks and retain some salary.

I believe you may find that you've become a bit confused.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I believe you may find that you've become a bit confused.

no no, it's too late for that, Darnell Nurse is now property of the Colorado Avalanche for future considerations. Pleasure doing business.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Nurse reminds me of Mike Matheson without the offense and double the caphit!

 

[StreetHawk]

No flexibility with the Nurse contract. On a high salary portion now, but that drops to be almost all SB in the final 4 seasons. So, no buyout option. At 29 this year, what you have seen, both good and bad, is what you are going to get over the next 4-5 years.