Darnell Nurse vs Quinn Hughes

[FreeMcdavid]

Its been brought to my attention that Nurse had the same amount of even strength points as Hughes last season.

Not only that but he kills penalties way better than Hughes ( i sure hope so as Hughes doesnt kill penalties)

I'm not really aware of what other fan base thinks of Nurse so I just wanted to educate myself more. Its possible I had a different impression of Nurse this whole time and I could be out to left field.

So my question is simple, who is the better Defenceman?

Nurse v Hughes

Its an interesting comparison as they play a completely different style of hockey. Hoping for a healthy debate and seeing either prespective with an open mind

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[snipes]

Gudbranson

 

[BB06]

Obvious Bait thread

 

[FreeMcdavid]

Obvious Bait thread

bait for what?

There's legit posters saying Nurse is a 40 point Dman with offence , snarl and kills penalties and that he is a top Dman.

I disagree but open to hearing /seeing if other posters feel that Nurse as elite as someone like Hughes.

I'm open to admitting that im alone or in the minority on my reflection on Nurse as a player if that is in fact the result of the poll

 

[JarvisFunk]

Quinn Hughes is quite obviously the better player.

If I'm throwing a guy out with a minute left to protect the lead it's Nurse

 

[BB06]

bait for what?

There's legit posters saying Nurse is a 40 point Dman with offence , snarl and kills penalties and that he is a top Dman.

I disagree but open to hearing /seeing if other posters feel that Nurse as elite as someone like Hughes.

I'm open to admitting that im alone on my reflection on Nurse as a player

You have a history of trying to bait oiler fans and have openly admitted to trolling. All you're doing is making the Canucks fanbase look bad.

 

[FreeMcdavid]

You have a history of trying to bait oiler fans and have openly admitted to trolling. All you're doing is making the Canucks fanbase look bad.

again bait for what? discussion? difference of opinion?

why would my action or opinion reflect on the whole Canuck fanbase? That's a lot of pressure to be the ambasaddor of hundreds of thousands of people.

 

[FreeMcdavid]

Quinn Hughes is quite obviously the better player.

If I'm throwing a guy out with a minute left to protect the lead it's Nurse

That's fair,

but why is Hughes "quite obviously" the better player?

If you are saying Nurse is better defensively and give the stat that Nurse had the same amount of even strength points as Hughes last year.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Can't believe both these players were drafted #7 overall. The actual f*** were DET, ARZ , and the Habs thinking?

 

[Del Preston]

Didn't even have to guess who the OP was. The self-admitted troll puts up another bait thread. Clown show.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Quinn Hughes is quite obviously the better player.

If I'm throwing a guy out with a minute left to protect the lead it's Nurse

God help us if it's between these two.

 

[nowhereman]

What's the point of this? Hughes obviously.

 

[Soundwave]

What's the point of this? Hughes obviously.

FreeMcDavid has an unending vendetta against the Oilers because he's insecure and afraid of Connor McDavid. So we get his weekly "let me try to low key bash the Oilers" thread, sometimes 2 threads a week if we're extra lucky.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

 

[WingsMJN2965]

If you wanted a healthy debate, you probably shouldn't have started a poll where the younger player is clearly better...

... Like, by a long shot.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Can't believe both these players were drafted #7 overall. The actual f*** were DET, ARZ , and the Habs thinking?

Uhh, one of these does not belong with the others...

 

[Bounces R Way]

Uhh, one of these does not belong with the others...

You're going to sit there with a straight face and tell me you think Zadina, Hayton, or Kotkaniemi are going to be more valuable players than Quinn Hughes?

 

[WingsMJN2965]

You're going to sit there with a straight face and tell me you think Zadina, Hayton, or Kotkaniemi are going to be more valuable players than Quinn Hughes?

You're going to sit here with a straight face and tell me Zadina wasn't universally ranked higher going into the draft?

Because I can pull the rankings up in 30 seconds to disprove that claim...

 

[Spawn]

Voted Nurse because f*** the OP

 

[Bounces R Way]

You're going to sit here with a straight face and tell me Zadina wasn't universally ranked higher going into the draft?

Because I can pull the rankings up in 30 seconds to disprove that claim...

See but we're not going into the draft are we. It's nearly 2021. Puljujarvi was rated higher than Dubois going in to 2016, Dubois was the better pick at #3.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

See but we're not going into the draft are we. It's nearly 2021. Puljujarvi was rated higher than Dubois going in to 2016, Dubois was the better pick at #3.

I appreciate the attempt to dig yourself out of the hole you've found yourself in. Unfortunately, your post is a pretty clear criticism of their decision making at the time of the draft.

Can't believe both these players were drafted #7 overall. The actual f*** were DET, ARZ , and the Habs thinking?

The past tense use of, "Were", kinda kills your attempt to save face here. Detroit picked the universally higher ranked player. Let's all move on.

 

[Soundwave]

You're going to sit there with a straight face and tell me you think Zadina, Hayton, or Kotkaniemi are going to be more valuable players than Quinn Hughes?

Probably not, but you also can't be certain.

If you told people Leon Draisaitl would end up being the no.1 player in his draft class over Aaron Ekblad after his rookie year a lot of people would have said that's insanity circa 2015.

Player development doesn't always go how this board says is gospel.

 

[Bounces R Way]

I appreciate the attempt to dig yourself out of the hole you've found yourself in. Unfortunately, your post is a pretty clear criticism of their decision making at the time of the draft.



This was not reflective, at all.

Exactly. Where they should have taken Quinn Hughes with any and all of the #3, #5, or #6 picks in the 2018 NHL draft. Not sure what you're not getting.

Probably not, but you also can't be certain.

If you told people Leon Draisaitl would end up being the no.1 player in his draft class over Aaron Ekblad after his rookie year a lot of people would have said that's insanity circa 2015.

Player development doesn't always go how this board says is gospel.

Course it doesn't. That's why this is a internet forum just for fun and NHL teams spend millions of dollars a year on scouting alone. Both are fallible and that fallibility has gotten many an executive fired.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Exactly. Where they should have taken Quinn Hughes with any and all of the #3, #5, or #6 picks in the 2018 NHL draft. Not sure what you're not getting.

Dude, just stop.

You asked what Detroit was thinking when they drafted Zadina over Hughes. He was ranked higher universally. Just stop.

Zadina:

2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #3 by ISS Hockey
2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #3 by Future Considerations
2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #3 by McKeen's Hockey
2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #4 by TSN/McKenzie
2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #3 by NHL Central Scouting

Hughes:

2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #7 by ISS Hockey
2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #6 by Future Considerations
2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #6 by McKeen's Hockey
2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #8 by TSN/McKenzie
2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #6 by NHL Central Scouting

You made a ridiculous comment. It happens to all of us. Stop doubling down on your ignorance. Different players develop at different rates.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Dude, just stop.

You asked what Detroit was thinking when they drafted Zadina over Hughes. He was ranked higher universally. Just stop.

Yeah because I've seen the results. All with the power of hindsight. Which is how every NHL draft has been rated and will be rated ever.

Zadina:

2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #3 by ISS Hockey
2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #3 by Future Considerations
2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #3 by McKeen's Hockey
2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #4 by TSN/McKenzie
2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #3 by NHL Central Scouting

Hughes:

2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #7 by ISS Hockey
2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #6 by Future Considerations
2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #6 by McKeen's Hockey
2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #8 by TSN/McKenzie
2018 NHL Entry Draft: Ranked #6 by NHL Central Scouting

You made a ridiculous comment. It happens to all of us. Stop doubling down on your ignorance.

It's an NHL team's job to get it right. The Red Wings got it wrong. You seem upset about it. It's OK happens to everyone. No such thing as a perfect draft record.