Seattle King
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Im not a Nurse fanboy and can agree that Nurse brings certain issues with his game but to suggest he’s a cancer to the team is where you demonstrate a pure hatred for the player versus a legitimate assessment of his worth to the team and where his skill set fits (salary aside).I have argued for years that Nurse is a cancer at the core of this team. He more than other player will deprive McDavid and Edmonton of a Stanley Cup.
Holland should have been fired after wasting $9 million on him.
He should have been flushed out of Edmonton two years ago.
And he just gets worse.
Most infuriating is that he plays if he was some kind of significant offensive threat. He is not. And as for defence he is simply inadequate.
At best, a 3rd pairing defenceman.
When does the media and blogosphere concede that everything I been saying about him is true.
Last night was just the perfect validation of how cancerous he is to this team.
No team can waste $9 million of cap space.
A good morning to fire Holland. And put Nurse on waivers. ( and if he brings up no movement, just say no one wants you playing defence for the Oilers)
He's your PLD.
I'm wondering if he was the guy out there after the Ottawa loss proclaiming the Oilers won't even make the playoffs. A tad too emotional and doesn't think things through logically. Kind of like Darnell Nurse come to think of it.Im not a Nurse fanboy and can agree that Nurse brings certain issues with his game but to suggest he’s a cancer to the team is where you demonstrate a pure hatred for the player versus a legitimate assessment of his worth to the team and where his skill set fits (salary aside).
For that reason alone the blogosphere and media are not going to line up to kiss your ass as you ask.
Wherever you’ve been before posting your 17 recent posts , you might want to consider a return visit.
He sure didnt last year. He was a liability.I think nurse is going to step up a big way for us this playoffs.
He sure didnt last year. He was a liability.
There is very little evidence to suggest that Nurse will suddenly be reliable in the playoffs.
I think that the team needs to embrace the reality that less Nurse means a better chance at success.
100%.Now that we've had two Nurse playoff experiences that went poorly and play down the stretch from him that is indicating that we could be in for round 3, it is incumbent on the organization to stop treating these failures as "learning experiences," or even worse, use him as a first choice in defensive deployments and hard matchups no matter how he's actually playing.
Manage to the reality slapping you in the face, not the reality you wish you had if only Darnell didn't have coma levels of hockey sense.
Everyone was saying that Hill is the reason Vegas got by us and on to the cup. But as good as he was, I think the turning point was Nurse's foolish and selfish foray into a fight at the end of a game that we (and he) had played very well, and looked to be in command of the series. There was absolutely no reason at all for him to fly in there and fight Hague, just brainless. Again, we can criticize the league for the way they handled it, but he put himself into their hands, and gave them an opportunity to f*** us over. And because of that, we not only lost him for an important game, it gave the tall foreheads at the league office an excuse to only give Pietrangelo just one game as well, to "even things out."100%.
The learning curve is done for Nurse. He will be 30 years old on his next B-day.
He is what he is.
I completely agree with you on this.Everyone was saying that Hill is the reason Vegas got by us and on to the cup. But as good as he was, I think the turning point was Nurse's foolish and selfish foray into a fight at the end of a game that we (and he) had played very well, and looked to be in command of the series. There was absolutely no reason at all for him to fly in there and fight Hague, just brainless. Again, we can criticize the league for the way they handled it, but he put himself into their hands, and gave them an opportunity to f*** us over. And because of that, we not only lost him for an important game, it gave the tall foreheads at the league office an excuse to only give Pietrangelo just one game as well, to "even things out."
Him and Ceci both have a habit of chasing random players and leaving other players wide open in high danger scoring areas.I completely agree with you on this.
In addition to that Nurse had other head scratching moments where he would inexplicably leave an a opposing player in a potentially dangerous scoring position to cover a player that was not dangerous at all.
He is just not capable of being the smart reliable player the team needs him to be.
Yes but Ceci is a $3.25M player being asked to be a 2nd pairing (sometimes first pairing) dman.Him and Ceci both have a habit of chasing random players and leaving other players wide open in high danger scoring areas.
remember all the Fire Tippet/Holland threads after every loss for 2 years?It never fails, every time Nurse has a bad game, these threads make their way to the top.
Just the nature of being a fan.remember all the Fire Tippet/Holland threads after every loss for 2 years?
It's par for the course with this fanbase. Then act all shocked when EDM is on no trade lists and no UFA's want to come here.
Yeah it’s the threads on HF Oil that are the final straw.remember all the Fire Tippet/Holland threads after every loss for 2 years?
It's par for the course with this fanbase. Then act all shocked when EDM is on no trade lists and no UFA's want to come here.
Bingo. Every team in professional sports with a fan base that actually cares has message boards shitting on players after a loss.Just the nature of being a fan.
The only teams that dont have a fan base that calls for changes (and over reacts to losses) are the teams where the fans just dont care all that much.
This board (like many other boards) is littered with overreactive fans because (for better or worse) these fans care a lot about the team.
Some fans tend to put emotion first though and I agree that can be a bit frustrating.
Nah, you can learn after 30. The guy he needs to talk to is Perry.100%.
The learning curve is done for Nurse. He will be 30 years old on his next B-day.
He is what he is.
Maybe when it becomes true. Is he overpaid? Yes. Does he make mistakes because he tries to do more than he is capable of sometimes? Yes. Is he, as you put it, "at best, a 3rd pairing defenseman".I have argued for years that Nurse is a cancer at the core of this team. He more than other player will deprive McDavid and Edmonton of a Stanley Cup.
Holland should have been fired after wasting $9 million on him.
He should have been flushed out of Edmonton two years ago.
And he just gets worse.
Most infuriating is that he plays if he was some kind of significant offensive threat. He is not. And as for defence he is simply inadequate.
At best, a 3rd pairing defenceman.
When does the media and blogosphere concede that everything I been saying about him is true.
Last night was just the perfect validation of how cancerous he is to this team.
No team can waste $9 million of cap space.
A good morning to fire Holland. And put Nurse on waivers. ( and if he brings up no movement, just say no one wants you playing defence for the Oilers)
Everyone was saying that Hill is the reason Vegas got by us and on to the cup. But as good as he was, I think the turning point was Nurse's foolish and selfish foray into a fight at the end of a game that we (and he) had played very well, and looked to be in command of the series. There was absolutely no reason at all for him to fly in there and fight Hague, just brainless. Again, we can criticize the league for the way they handled it, but he put himself into their hands, and gave them an opportunity to f*** us over. And because of that, we not only lost him for an important game, it gave the tall foreheads at the league office an excuse to only give Pietrangelo just one game as well, to "even things out."
He’s just not that smart. Sounds mean, but believe me I don’t hate Nurse it just is what it is.Nah, you can learn after 30. The guy he needs to talk to is Perry.
He's your PLD.
I think though that perception of Nurse is based entirely on how he is being paid.This is actually an apt comparison, not even in terms of contract, but in terms of how the player is perceived and managed.
PLD is perceived as a bull in the china shop, 2 way power forward that can match up against the other team's top line and beat them. But he's not that, people just want him to be that and project that on him.
Nurse is perceived as a top pair minute muncher that can be relied on as the lead in defensive situations and can take tough matchups and win them. Like PLD, he's not that, but the organization wishes he was so they keep throwing him to the wolves and hoping it will work.
MacTavish hasn't been around for a long, long time. Nurse is what he is, no one else is to blame.I believe McTavish might have had a negative effect on Nurse and be partially responsible for his lack of development in the Oilers organization.
I've heard McTavish pump his tires and his style of play. McTavish is wrong. Nurse's fundamentals are horrific.