Dan Boyle Mod post #696

[bl02]

Hey guys just wondering when Boyle comes back from injury in a week or two will be that catalyst back there to get the power play going? Just really would be nice to see some big power play goals at opportune times to win us some games.

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[Thirty One]

Maybe.

 

[Raspewtin]

I hope so.

 

[bl02]

I hope so.

Hope so to. Would be wonderful to have a top 5 or 10 power play. would make such a difference.
If Boyle lives up to expectations our power play could be the best its been in a long time

 

[Miller Time NYR]

He damn well better be

 

[Kovalev27]

Huge upgrade over Girardi that's for sure

 

[bl02]

Huge upgrade over Girardi that's for sure

Very true hopefully that will put Girardi on the bench for the PP

 

[GOAT AINEC]

He can't make it any worse.

 

[silverfish]

Can't believe this guy hasn't recorded a point yet.

Terrible signing by Sather, as usual.

 

[haohmaru]

Can't believe this guy hasn't recorded a point yet.

Terrible signing by Sather, as usual.

Fourteen minutes without a point? Unacceptable!

 

[Krams]

Kostka >

 

[Gardner McKay]

We have the Dan Boyle injury thread to discuss his injury right now. When he makes his return we will open this back up.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Re opened.

 

[silverfish]

He seems very trigger happy, which I love.

Despite not putting up points himself, the PP has looked significantly better since he came back. I don't know if that's a coincidence or not yet though.

There have been a few times I've noticed Boyle wide open on the point, stick ready, looking for a one-timer, but he hasn't been fed the puck. I think once we start utilizing his shot more on the PP, we'll see greater success.

And sometimes when he does get the shot off, it doesn't get through, or goes a bit too high. Hopefully, the puck luck will turn in his favor.

 

[offdacrossbar]

i see the same.

ive liked him alot more than i thought i would.

i love his willingness to shoot and he has a good shot. its a timing thing more than anything right now. you can see hes frustrated. he knows where to go to score and he always seems like hes looking for that shot. we havent had "that guy" in a while. he looks in control on the pp point and that translates into a better looking pp.

hes a guy who can make a difference on the pp with his passing and shot. so far, hes been very good imo even without the points yet. im confident they will come.

 

[Jim Morrison]

His decisiveness makes the PP alot better. Giving MSL and Stepan much more time and space to create. Playing like a proper QB. The points will come.

 

[Waivers]

He's a great skater still.
His vision is also very good.
His outlet passes are typically great.
He makes the appropriate plays in his own end to advance the puck up the ice ASAP.
He can take it himself up the ice and into the neutral zone if he wants to with ease.
He doesn't give the puck up unless he can generate a better play.
He moves the puck very well on the offensive side too.

I dunno why anyone is hating on him, it's this guy that will get the offense going because he wants it out of his end immediately.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Is it true that he's not a good possession player 5 on 5? I find that strange with his skillset.

 

[RGY]

He seems very trigger happy, which I love.

Despite not putting up points himself, the PP has looked significantly better since he came back. I don't know if that's a coincidence or not yet though.

There have been a few times I've noticed Boyle wide open on the point, stick ready, looking for a one-timer, but he hasn't been fed the puck. I think once we start utilizing his shot more on the PP, we'll see greater success.

And sometimes when he does get the shot off, it doesn't get through, or goes a bit too high. Hopefully, the puck luck will turn in his favor.

Agreed.

I don't think its a coincidence. He has good skating ability and vision with the puck. The PP seems to run through him and Marty. You can see the great chemistry those two have together. One thing I've noticed since his return is the decision making with the puck for the whole 5 out there looks quicker and smoother. More one touch passes which gets defenders turning and out of position more, opening up shooting lanes. I love how Boyle and MSL both **** their sticks back waiting for a pass for a one timer. Their sticks are practically pointing straight up towards the ceiling.

 

[NYRFAN218]

Is it true that he's not a good possession player 5 on 5? I find that strange with his skillset.

I don't know what his possession numbers are off the top of my head but it wouldn't shock me since he's not particularly great in his own zone. Losing a board battle or turning it over in deep could have you pinned in your own zone. I think his numbers were decent in San Jose but someone could look that up since I can't at the moment.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I don't know what his possession numbers are off the top of my head but it wouldn't shock me since he's not particularly great in his own zone. Losing a board battle or turning it over in deep could have you pinned in your own zone. I think his numbers were decent in San Jose but someone could look that up since I can't at the moment.

I thought that might be the case. Still not sure I'd make the trade Stralman was a possession demon.

 

[silverfish]

I thought that might be the case. Still not sure I'd make the trade Stralman was a possession demon.

Not the biggest sample size in the world, but looks like 5v5 his relative corsi is +0.2

76 for, 79 against.

His PDO is 97.68. Generally, that regresses towards the mean of 100 so we should be seeing some improvement in Boyle's offensive output and/or defensive success.

The most interesting thing though, is that between the two websites I use for #fancystats, they show different numbers for Boyle

The numbers above are using war-on-ice. Behindthenet.ca tells a different story.

 

[NickyFotiu]

He has made our PP look so much better. His footwork walking at or near the blue line is great. He has helped us keep possession in the other teams end on most PP lately

 

[Cassano]

Is it true that he's not a good possession player 5 on 5? I find that strange with his skillset.

He's not a good neutral zone defender perhaps. And his physical tools have clearly declined.

 

[Thirty One]

Is it true that he's not a good possession player 5 on 5? I find that strange with his skillset.

I would say that's decidedly untrue.

Here's his defense partners' possession splits with and without from last season:

Weighted on ice time, his defense partners saw an uptick of 2.1 percentage points when paired with him as opposed to someone else.