Dallas is a Paper Tiger

[EdJovanovski]

I’ll never get people complaining about Vegas “cheating” they are obviously operating within the rules and any team could do what they’re doing but many owners are probably too cheap

 

[BMOK33]

I’ll never get people complaining about Vegas “cheating” they are obviously operating within the rules and any team could do what they’re doing but many owners are probably too cheap

I don't think its so much being cheap as it is you need to be lucky enough to have guys get injured at the perfect time. Also Hanifin probably never re-signs in most places he is traded to. I was fairly shocked he even signed in Vegas knowing that if he did he'd probably already hamstring a team who is tight to the cap and somewhat old. I felt TB was a better place for him long term, if VGK does not win the cup this year the window is closing a bit due to the key pieces on D being old.

 

[LudwigVonKarlsson]

Vegas is only 19-12 against Dallas all time...not the dominant record some people are making it out to be.

 

[JetsUK]

Disagree with OP. Great team with few weaknesses that play a very entertaining brand of hockey that's a blast to watch when they're at full stretch.

Also a young-ish team whose playstyle is vulnerable to an in-yer-grill, splenetic team like Vegas.

Still think they can turn things around, esp if they can be more aggressive on the forecheck and get some hard zone time to really test the Vegas [INSERT GOALIE-TYPE PLAYER HERE].

Winning game 3 would def help keep the spleen alive.

 

[Kcb12345]

Vegas is only 19-12 against Dallas all time...not the dominant record some people are making it out to be.

Curious what that record is after Vegas added Eichel and Pietrangelo

 

[Zbynek]

Dallas deserves to lose for its terrible camera angle. Simple as that.

Yeah, that's really f***ing annoying. I wanted to support the Stars but why do they do that.

Anyway, I think this thread will jinx the Knights. Stars in 6 baby.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Which teams would beat this Vegas team?

Rangers, Canes, Florida, and Dallas (still a series).

 

[tarheelhockey]

I’ll never get people complaining about Vegas “cheating” they are obviously operating within the rules and any team could do what they’re doing but many owners are probably too cheap

I mean, it’s not unreasonable that people are getting annoyed at seeing teams manipulating IR transactions so that they can cruise into the playoffs 20% over the cap.

“Anyone could be doing this” also applies to billionaires exploiting tax loopholes, doesn’t mean it should be supported or imitated.

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Vegas had a shorter summer and they don't have home ice. There should be no excuses for Dallas.

Hertl and Stone are playing on legs fresh as daisies.

 

[JoVel]

I mean, it’s not unreasonable that people are getting annoyed at seeing teams manipulating IR transactions so that they can cruise into the playoffs 20% over the cap.

“Anyone could be doing this” also applies to billionaires exploiting tax loopholes, doesn’t mean it should be supported or imitated.

I think people should be angry at NHL for allowing Vegas (or any other team) to do this, instead of being angry at Vegas for doing what NHL allows them to do.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Thing is, I'd take them in a 7 game series over almost every other Western team except Vegas.

This series right here might as well be the WCF, imo. Unfortunately for the Stars, they suck against Vegas for whatever reason

Pretty underwhelming WCF so far

 

[tarheelhockey]

I think people should be angry at NHL for allowing Vegas (or any other team) to do this, instead of being angry at Vegas for doing what NHL allows them to do.

There’s no reason we can’t demand better behavior from all parties involved.

 

[flying squirrel]

Dallas has been dealt bad playoff match-up for many reasons. But when anyone in life is dealt bad hand, one can cry about and crawl into corner, or get to work beating it. That's what Dallas has to do or become another victim to unfavorable conditions.

Vegas was good to begin with, after being fed with silver spoon, to start franchise.

• But Vegas could not get over "Cup" hump even with gifted franchised roaster.
• So LTIR before trade deadline "strategy" was born by Vegas.
• Now 3 years straight yrs of Vegas abusing LTIR, to sign/trade franchise type players from other NHL teams.
• Has allowed Vegas, to load up come playoff time for 3 yrs straight.
• Vegas had to do this to get over "Cup" hump and now they're doing to stay there.
• Other teams that used LTIR and won a "Cup" had already won "Cup" without use of LTIR. Those NHL organizations proved their teams could win "Cup"without use of LTIR, and that carries more historical weight.
• LTIR is legit when used right, and not abused. Plus, more legit when player sit out whole season instead of right before trade deadline Especially if LTIR'ed player is superstar: that puts any team playoff chances at risk if other injuries take place, team doesn't play good without that star, etc.
• Vegas didn't build it, coach players up within farm system for years, then use those assets to make trades, or anything close to what some NHL teams have done/do.
• Vegas is similar to the spoiled brat, who's been fed silver spoon whole life. Now compared that to person who does it on own. Two different animals there, when weighting ones worth and how one got there. What's always a kicker and for a good laugh: is when a spoiled brat, who more than not, are clueless to what's up or to emotionally involved to see it. Act like they've done something special. Makes it difficult to respect what Vegas has done, but each their own...
• Some NHL fans will love what Vegas is doing, some will think is bush-league & cheap. Myself: pulled for Vegas since they came into NHL, and even was OK with 1st yr use of LTIR. But..... what has followed has tainted all that sadly. Vegas is nothing but bush-league now, but won't be 1st time in sports where bush-league gets ahead.
• Again, Dallas got dealt a bad hand for many reasons,, it happens in life.
• So one just has to deep deep and fight back!!!
• Dallas hasn't done this, that's on them and them alone....

Good luck Dallas, got a good team and ya did it mostly right....

 

[Canovin]

83M team vs 100M team

 

[WaitingForThatCab]

I think people should be angry at NHL for allowing Vegas (or any other team) to do this, instead of being angry at Vegas for doing what NHL allows them to do.

It's tough to be mad at the NHL, since nobody really anticipated this when the CBA was negotiated, and there is nothing the league can do about it until the CBA is renegotiated.

It's easy to be mad at Vegas for engaging in a very good example of 'high trust society rapidly becomes low trust society' behavior.

 

[Atoyot]

My favorite part of the playoffs is watching people make sweeping definitive statements based on the smallest of samples.

 

[Coffey]

This isn't losing the Wild or Kraken or LA.

Throwing shade at the Avs I see

 

[Dialamo]

Vegas is a top notch team and Dallas is unfortunate to be facing off against them in the first round. That said, I also wouldn't be shocked if Dallas ties the series 2-2 on the road. Series is far from over.

 

[Nemec]

Is anyone aware that VGK was able to get Hanafin, Hertl, and Martha with Stone’s LTIR money - and then MIRACULOUSLY get Stone back to start the play-offs? This is not an ordinary NHL team. The only people who think VGK’s success is a commentary on the Stars is not paying attention.

I hope Vegas goes 16-0 and crushes Bettman's darling Rangers in the finals... Maybe then the LTIR loophole will get some attention.

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

They are the hipster team right now because of their drafting and that they are an NHL Southern market and that they have a lot of good players without a big hole in their team.

But they aren't a team that scares you. They don't have any of the NHL's true elite players. Heiskanen might the closest they have, but lets face it most people aren't picking him over Makar, Fox, Hedman, Hughes. Robertson and Hintz are players that often get a reputation as underrated offensive players around the league, but they aren't even facing up to Stone and Eichel, let alone what a potential matchup with McDrai would like like. Oettinger has had a mediocre year and right now isn't the player he's known as.

Their young players are good, but not ready to carry them yet and they aren't like Bedard level guys either.

" They are the hipster team "

WTF R U talking about?

 

[JoVel]

It's tough to be mad at the NHL, since nobody really anticipated this when the CBA was negotiated, and there is nothing the league can do about it until the CBA is renegotiated.

It's easy to be mad at Vegas for engaging in a very good example of 'high trust society rapidly becomes low trust society' behavior.

Given that the NHL teams are owned by billionaires who exploit people for a living, I would argue that makes it by default a low trust society where the concept of fairness doesn't exist, and anything that is not specifically forbidden is allowed.

 

[Kranix]

There’s no reason we can’t demand better behavior from all parties involved.

If Kelly McCrimmon didn't do what he did, I'd call him a sucker.

 

[hangman005]

Yeah, that's really f***ing annoying. I wanted to support the Stars but why do they do that.

Anyway, I think this thread will jinx the Knights. Stars in 6 baby.

This acknowledgement serves as a counter jinx.

Lots of love,

Hockey Gods.

 

[hangman005]

I hope Vegas goes 16-0 and crushes Bettman's darling Rangers in the finals... Maybe then the LTIR loophole will get some attention.

No cane do, I've already booked Carolina to beat us in the finals.

 

[WaitingForThatCab]

Given that the NHL teams are owned by billionaires who exploit people for a living, I would argue that makes it by default a low trust society where the concept of fairness doesn't exist, and anything that is not specifically forbidden is allowed.

Are you a billionaire?