Confirmed Signing with Link: [DAL] Jamie Benn (8 years, $9.5M AAV)

[RuneMcEres]

I don't really get the Lucic comparisons. Lucic is the definition of power forward in today's game and his body will fail him sooner than later because of it.

Why? Because he's a lot bigger and has no injury history? Well, if you repeat the same inaccuracies long enough, I guess everything becomes gospel.

 

[Mr Positive]

I'm just going to guess we are actually talking about Lucic here now really..

no not at all. Benn is a player you keep, and if he's UFA you get him no matter what it does to your cap. You can work on making it fit after. With Lucic it's stupid not to carefully consider the cap first. He's not a core guy, but he can help your core guys to achieve more.

 

[glovesave_35]

Why? Because he's a lot bigger and has no injury history? Well, if you repeat the same inaccuracies long enough, I guess everything becomes gospel.

There is a long history of players who were of the same ilk and all slowed down significantly, and generally earlier than players who didn't play such a rough style.

This thread isn't about Lucic, I was merely noting that Benn and Lucic play very different games, and I expect Lucic to hit that "wall" sooner than Benn due to Benn being a more well rounded player.

 

[PhoenyX]

9.5 cap hit at ages 34-36? Not so sure about that...

 

[3074326]

Not sure what people were expecting, look at his point totals...

 

[third man in]

Benn has earned it. The last year or two might be a little rough but so what.

 

[Iceman]

Better player than Toews, Kane and Kopitar right now but makes less than all of them but doesn't have the "winner" tattoo to earn him an extra million.

 

[Mad Brills*]

Who's the next player that gets a 9+ million dollar contract.

Mcdavid?

Price?

 

[gorangers0525]

Yes the last few years are going to be ugly (probably) but you can say that about 90% of the UFA contracts out there. He is still pretty young, and one of the best in the game, seems well worth the contract.

 

[serp]

Who's the next player that gets a 9+ million dollar contract.

Mcdavid?

Price?

McDavid i don't think will get as much in his first RFA contract .

Giving a goalie that much seems like a dumb idea even if he's the best goalie. Lundquist didn't get that much as well.

Tavares is more likely.

 

[dredeye]

Wow!

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Who's the next player that gets a 9+ million dollar contract.

Mcdavid?

Price?

hmmm I don't see anyone getting that next summer, but after that in 2018 Id say Price and Tavares

 

[Finnish your Czech]

It's a good signing. Not really much of a hometown discount, but he would definitely get more in the UFA market.

 

[DadBod]

I think it's too high BUT if I'm Nill I sign the same deal. You don't let Benn walk even if you have to pay a bit more. In that case it's a good deal.

 

[FirstRowUpperDeck]

Nill has a good, although not perfect record of judging the market with UFA signings/extensions.....Seems like he is willing to pay for high end forwards, probably for too long. Not quite as much for defense. Wonder where that comes from?

Too High

Gonchar
Hemsky.

Market Rate (term too long?)


Spezza
Jamie Benn
Bargins

Klingberg
Hamuis
Dillon
Jordie Benn
Oleksiak
Eaves
Fiddler

 

[Olympus Mons]

If you look at similar players contracts this is right there for a player of his caliber. Dallas must not have been concerned about his recent surgery. They needed to lock him up long term and that's what they did.

 

[Raspewtin]

He could've gotten a lot more.

He's probably a top 3 player in the world right now.

 

[CupHolders]

9.5 cap hit at ages 34-36? Not so sure about that...

Corey Perry (Who I'm a huge fan of) will have an 8.625 Mil cap hit at the ages 34-36. I would say Benn is a much better all around player than Perry. So this all seems pretty decent market value.

 

[Juicy Pop]

I don't really get the Lucic comparisons. Lucic is the definition of power forward in today's game and his body will fail him sooner than later because of it. Benn is a PF but he's so much more than that that it isn't really fair to smack that label on him. It would be like calling Ovechkin a sniper even though he is a bull on skates. Some guys defy simple labels and Benn is one of them.

I'm not worried about Benn being an "aging power forward" halfway through his contract. The only thing that would worry me is if he were to get concussion problems. He is way more skilled than it seems a lot of people still seem to think.

I think a better label is PF+. You're not just getting a typical star power forward, you're getting an elite player that happens to fit the mold of a power forward.

 

[Endless rain]

Fair deal all things considered.

 

[Whileee]

Benn is a good example of why you don't sign very promising young players to 5 year deals when they are 22 or 23. They would have been much better to lock him up for 7-8 years at a higher cap hit. Having him at say $6M or $6.2M until he is 30 or 31 would have been ideal. You can still re-sign him then if he's still playing at a high end, but you would get him for a shorter term and much lower AAV when he's in his 30's.

I think that's why we'll continue to see more teams trying to lock up their good young players coming out of their ELC, rather than bridging them, or worse, signing them for 5 years. I think that even 6 years is too short for players that are top end and 21-22 years old. Better to try to lock them in for 7-8 years, if possible.

 

[Confound]

Little bit overpaid.

 

[Aerchon]

Little bit overpaid.

Agreed.

Surprised a winger can get his kind of coin even in today's NHL.

 

[serp]

Benn is a good example of why you don't sign very promising young players to 5 year deals when they are 22 or 23. They would have been much better to lock him up for 7-8 years at a higher cap hit. Having him at say $6M or $6.2M until he is 30 or 31 would have been ideal. You can still re-sign him then if he's still playing at a high end, but you would get him for a shorter term and much lower AAV when he's in his 30's.

I think that's why we'll continue to see more teams trying to lock up their good young players coming out of their ELC, rather than bridging them, or worse, signing them for 5 years. I think that even 6 years is too short for players that are top end and 21-22 years old. Better to try to lock them in for 7-8 years, if possible.

There's no guarantee he would've taken a longer deal at that time. He already sat out a couple of games that year because of contract negotiations.
Sure it would've been great to lock Benn up for as long as possible before he became one of the best players in the league and subsequently would've been cheaper that doesn't mean it was possible . The team still had Nieuwy as GM in 2012 and was still in the process of finding a new owner and still had many questionmarks around it.

 

[Ciao]

He could've gotten a lot more.

He's probably a top 3 player in the world right now.

Who are the other two?