Rumor: CSE Buying the Chilliwack Chiefs

[canuckfan75]

Vancouver Canucks making play to buy BCHL's Chilliwack Chiefs

The Chiefs, who are one of the benchmark teams in Junior A in this province, also run the Chilliwack Coliseum until 2029

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[tantalum]

Great people are born in Chilliwack…

 

[andora]

Great people are born in Chilliwack…

Met my wife in chilliwack.. she was my teacher on a training program

I got good mark

 

[Gstank]

CHilliwack usually has one of the best junior programs in the BCHL. It will be interesting to see if we start sending our drafted prospects who have to wait a year or start drafting out of the BCHL more often

 

[M2Beezy]

Met my wife in chilliwack.. she was my teacher on a training program

I got good mark

Thats wack

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Interesting…I wonder what the end goal is.

 

[ChilliBilly]

Interesting…I wonder what the end goal is.

I think so I can see Canucks prospects without having to drive ....

 

[Vector]

Interesting…I wonder what the end goal is.

A while ago one of the local media (cannot recall who at all) was pointing out that the Aquilinis have done nothing significant for local hockey apart from the Canucks. With the massive success of the Abbotsford Canucks, if there was a realization that investing in other local hockey ventures is a profitable idea. Not even on a purely financial front but also as an on and off-ice talent pipeline and for positive public relations.

 

[hookshott]

CHilliwack usually has one of the best junior programs in the BCHL. It will be interesting to see if we start sending our drafted prospects who have to wait a year or start drafting out of the BCHL more often

I believe if they have played in the CHL they are ineligible for the BCHL

 

[canuckfan75]

it is a real estate play. they will run the arena and make all $$$ and get close to the Indigenous groups in that area for possible massive real estate opportunities. believe the Chiefs are just a small part of this

 

[Reverend Mayhem]

CHilliwack usually has one of the best junior programs in the BCHL. It will be interesting to see if we start sending our drafted prospects who have to wait a year or start drafting out of the BCHL more often

That sounds like a major conflict of interest I could see the NHL shitting its pants over.

 

[biturbo19]

In before accusations that Acquacorp are meddling in the Bantam draft.

 

[The Iron Goalie]

Random thought, could this be a precursor to the Canucks buying an ECHL team, and moving them to Chilliwack? Oh who am I kidding...it's likely just a real-estate play as mentioned above.

 

[tantalum]

That sounds like a major conflict of interest I could see the NHL shitting its pants over.

How is it a conflict of interest? Flames parent company have owned the Hitmen for nearly 20 years so I doubt the league has an issue with CSE owning and operating a junior team.

 

[krutovsdonut]

Interesting…I wonder what the end goal is.

real estate

 

[Szechwan]

I stopped in Chilliwack for a quick lunch a couple of months ago, but accidently went to a place run by a cult. Very good Reuben though.

 

[Hansen]

it is a real estate play. they will run the arena and make all $$$ and get close to the Indigenous groups in that area for possible massive real estate opportunities. believe the Chiefs are just a small part of this

For all the shit and bad business, the Aquilinis know the value of strong relationships with local First Nations and maintain those relationships

 

[rypper]

I stopped in Chilliwack for a quick lunch a couple of months ago, but accidently went to a place run by a cult. Very good Reuben though.

Ah the yellow deli.

That's how the get you into the cult, with the Reuben.

 

[LuckyDay]

I met my girl in Chilliwack. But she left me and now she's gone, gone, gone, been for so long.

 

[ziploc]

I stopped in Chilliwack for a quick lunch a couple of months ago, but accidently went to a place run by a cult. Very good Reuben though.

I think I know them. I think "cult" might be stretching it, to be fair. And yes, the food is very good (if it's the place I'm thinking).

 

[tantalum]

I met my girl in Chilliwack. But she left me and now she's gone, gone, gone, been for so long.

Nice.

 

[604]

Random thought, could this be a precursor to the Canucks buying an ECHL team, and moving them to Chilliwack? Oh who am I kidding...it's likely just a real-estate play as mentioned above.

The Canucks were a real estate play that developed into more.

This could too.

 

[604]

For all the shit and bad business, the Aquilinis know the value of strong relationships with local First Nations and maintain those relationships

The First Nations group that works with the Aquilinis, MST, are the largest developers in North America now.

Big developers give them land and then JV with them to avoid paying development and other fees.

It’s like sanctioned tax evasion (just a different kind of tax with a different name).

People think they are helping the Nations, which they are, but they are also helping billionaires avoid development charges that are supposed to help build schools and other infrastructure that support the population that these developments bring.

 

[Hansen]

The First Nations group that works with the Aquilinis, MST, are the largest developers in North America now.

Big developers give them land and then JV with them to avoid paying development and other fees.

It’s like sanctioned tax evasion (just a different kind of tax with a different name).

People think they are helping the Nations, which they are, but they are also helping billionaires avoid development charges that are supposed to help build schools and other infrastructure that support the population that these developments bring.

Its really not that simple.

Land that comes over to a band doesnt automatically become tax exempt native land/reserve land. It remains fee simple and is just owned by the band who has to pay taxed as anyone would. The addition-to-reserve process is a bureaucratic mire and takes at minimum 20 years with consistent and persistent advocacy and leadership.

Developments like Senakw are taking place on pre-existing reserve land wherein municipal by law technically dont apply, however agreements have long been in place in almost every instance to adhere to building code in exchange for access to municipal utilities.

The main benefit for joint venture developing alongside first nations that arent on pre-existing reserve land like you are describing is due to the decades of fighting tooth and nail for the respect and implementation of aboriginal rights and title, where we now find ourselves in a position where if anyone needs to do something that is contingent on federal, provincial, or municipal permitting processes, the local first nation can either fasttrack or effectively end any attempt to navigate the system.

Also, MST is independently incredibly wealthy and they are an active partner in these projects. It isnt wealthy developers extending an olive branch in exchange with help with “tax evasion”

And to the tax evasion remark, I look forward to the day where indian bands can charge tax at a territorial scope on either property or business done within said territory—not just reserve land. Then we’ll really see schools and hospitals being built

 

[JAK]

How is it a conflict of interest? Flames parent company have owned the Hitmen for nearly 20 years so I doubt the league has an issue with CSE owning and operating a junior team.

That's because the Flames aren't the Canucks.

Anything the Canucks do that Gary Bettman can make an excuse to punish us, he will