Create the best 5 man unit possible without the use of Gretzky/Lemieux/Orr/Howe

[Wandering Cynic]

Sedin-Sedin-Hull
Lidstrom-Pronger

 

[thedoughboy]

OV-Beliveau- Foppa

Stevens-Lindstrom

That would be my ideal 5 if those guys weren't available.

 

[CanadienShark]

Ovechkin - Fedorov - Jagr
Lidstrom - Bourque

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Benn-Kopitar-Burns
Muzzin-Doughty

Beats all your big name superstar teams @ 5-on-5

 

[Grifter3511]

.

Ovechkin-Forsberg-Jagr

Lidstrom-Pronger

Hard to argue with this.

If I was making a 2nd line I'd probably go with:

Shanahan/Kariya - Lindros - Bure

Leetch - Niedermeyer

Strictly talking players during my tenure as a fan...

 

[authentic]

At 5v5?

Selanne -- Lindros -- Jagr
Bourque -- Lidstrom

Jagr and Lindros are the best 5v5 players I have ever seen with my own two eyes. Selanne was godly at 5v5 when younger. Bourque and Lidstrom are the best two defensemen I ever watched play hockey.

Do you really believe a peak Selanne was better 5v5 than a peak Ovechkin? Or just that he would work better with those other players?

Holmstrom-Datsyuk-Zetterberg

Lidstrom-Rafalski

This is one of the best real life 5 man units I have witnessed for sure.

 

[LordKOTL]

Probert-Dale Hunter-Tie Domi
McSorely-Manson
Hextall

 

[Turd Ferguson]

Summer 2015,

Doesn't matter - Crosby - Kessel
Doesn't matter - Doesn't matter

Already saw my top 5 with Iggy.

 

[Appleyard]

Statistically speaking Al MacInnis should actually get consideration in regards to the last ~25 years.

His 5v5 statistics are pretty fantastic.

 

[authentic]

Ovechkin - Yzerman - Maurice Richard

Lidstrom - Bourque

Hasek

I somehow doubt you have actually witnessed a prime Maurice Richard play a hockey game.

 

[WarriorOfGandhi]

Claude Lemieux -- Brent Gretzky -- Syd Howe
Colton Orr -- John Scott

 

[Sureves]

Ovechkin-Crosby-Jagr
Lidstrom-Karlsson

 

[Igor Shestyorkin]

Ovechkin-Fedorov-Jagr
Lidstrom-Pronger

A goal scoring machine, a Selke caliber C who can score a lot, an all around offensive threat, one of the smartest player ever to play hockey and a dominant physical defenseman.

This.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

Bossy - Federov - Bobby Hull
Bourque - Lidstrom
Hasek

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Ovechkin-Forsberg-Jagr
Langway-Karlsson

I'd like to see Karlsson with the freedom a guy like Langway would provide.

 

[Skobel24]

Ovechkin - Sakic - Jagr
Lidstrom - Pronger

 

[Intangiblezz]

Peter Forsberg - Eric Lindros - Jaromir Jagr
Nicklas Lidstrom - Chris Pronger

I'd also like:

Paul Kariya - Steve Yzerman - Teemu Selanne
Ray Bourque - Scott Niedermayer

Alex Ovechkin - Sergei Federov - Pavel Bure
Al MacInnis - Brian Leetch

 

[authentic]

Benn-Kopitar-Burns
Muzzin-Doughty

Beats all your big name superstar teams @ 5-on-5

For real?

Probert-Dale Hunter-Tie Domi
McSorely-Manson
Hextall

 

[authentic]

Claude Lemieux -- Brent Gretzky -- Syd Howe
Colton Orr -- John Scott

I see what you did here, well done.

 

[Sensinitis]

Forsberg-Datsyuk-Kane
Lidstrom-Karlsson

 

[Kresnik]

Ovechkin-Forsberg-Jagr

Coffey-Karlsson

Easily

 

[Esq]

Forsberg-Messier-Jagr

Lidstrom-MacInnis

 

[Voight]

Easy.

Boby Hull - Joe Sakic - Jaromir Jagr
Denis Potvin - Ray Bourque

 

[Appleyard]

Do you really believe a peak Selanne was better 5v5 than a peak Ovechkin? Or just that he would work better with those other players?

I thought about it for a while, and did consider which I thought would work best, and the fact I love Selanne and would love to see those three play together! (though Ovechkin is also a player I love watching)

but even without that their 3 year offensive 5v5 peak was not too dissimilar.

96-99 Selanne: 226gp, 102 EV goals (0.45 EVGPG), 94 EV assists (0.41 EVAPG), 196 EV points. (0.86 EVPPG)
07-10 Ovechkin: 233gp, 116 EV goals (0.50 EVGPG), 95 EV assists (0.41 EVAPG), 211 EV points. (0.91 EVPPG)

Then when you do a crude adjustment for scoring era (going off their overall stats and what they would be adjusted up to percentage wise over that timespan):

Selanne: ~+11%
Ovechkin: ~+6.6%

0.86*1.11= 0.95
0.91*1.066= 0.97


Though frankly Ovechkin being a natural LW does mean he has a better argument for being there! But could not resist having Selanne, Lindros and Jagr together! Though Ovechkin there would be insanely awesome as well.

 

[icKx]

Shanahan - Lindros - Iginla

Weber - Pronger


Maybe not the most skill but damn they could grind you down.