NFL: Crater for Caleb, Bad play for Maye - Bears clinch #1 pick via Panthers and rest of order set

[Blackhawkswincup]

Its becoming clear Jones is not answer in NE

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

UPDATED after the 1 PM games according to tankathon, which calculates the SOS after every game:

#1 CHI (via CAR) 0-5
#2 CHI 1-4
#3 NE 1-4
#4 NYG 1-4

We have a battle of 1-3 teams in Arizona and another one in Denver. The winners of those 2 games will probably be out of the running for Caleb.

 

[HisIceness]

If Fields becomes the guy in Chicago, holy moly imagine the possible return the Bears could get from what will probably be the #1 pick.

 

[Scotianhab]

If Fields becomes the guy in Chicago, holy moly imagine the possible return the Bears could get from what will probably be the #1 pick.

I think they trade Fields no matter what if they get the first pick. As long as Caleb will play for them.

 

[GKJ]

There’s a lot of teams in this thing.

 

[BB88]

If Fields becomes the guy in Chicago, holy moly imagine the possible return the Bears could get from what will probably be the #1 pick.

Would still make the pick

That’s a nice new window to build

 

[Unholy Diver]

UPDATED after the 1 PM games according to tankathon, which calculates the SOS after every game:

#1 CHI (via CAR) 0-5
#2 CHI 1-4
#3 NE 1-4
#4 NYG 1-4

We have a battle of 1-3 teams in Arizona and another one in Denver. The winners of those 2 games will probably be out of the running for Caleb.

I don't know that a 2 game lead with 3/4 of the season left is insurmountable

 

[Halladay]

I think it will be either the Bears (including the Panthers pick), or the Broncos.

 

[Mrfenn92]

UPDATED after the 1 PM games according to tankathon, which calculates the SOS after every game:

#1 CHI (via CAR) 0-5
#2 CHI 1-4
#3 NE 1-4
#4 NYG 1-4

We have a battle of 1-3 teams in Arizona and another one in Denver. The winners of those 2 games will probably be out of the running for Caleb.

Bears top 2 picks. Top 2 busts incoming.

 

[Jovavic]

Do the Texans have the Browns pick this year?

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Do the Texans have the Browns pick this year?

Yep.

As for the 2 game lead comment...if you are a team with 2 wins already, chances are strong you will win again. It may take 2-15 to land Caleb.

 

[Unholy Diver]

Yep.

As for the 2 game lead comment...if you are a team with 2 wins already, chances are strong you will win again. It may take 2-15 to land Caleb.

Didn't you also have the Phillies buried in mid May? It is ok to be a little more patient


The Bears were 3-4 last year after 7 games and the Texans were 1-5-1, there was even less season left at that point

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

I am liking J.J. McCarthy if Bears go QB in this year's draft

The more I see of him the more I like him

Naturally they would trade down and pick him because he isn't a top 5 or even top 10 pick IMO

I see him going somewhere in teens

 

[Petey But Really Jim]

I am liking J.J. McCarthy if Bears go QB in this year's draft

The more I see of him the more I like him

Naturally they would trade down and pick him because he isn't a top 5 or even top 10 pick IMO

I see him going somewhere in teens

Is there anything in particular that concerns you about Caleb Williams? Shed some light please. Maybe take us out of the dark.

 

[Terry Yake]

If Fields becomes the guy in Chicago, holy moly imagine the possible return the Bears could get from what will probably be the #1 pick.

unless fields suddenly puts up an MVP caliber season, i can't envision them sticking with him over williams

 

[GKJ]

If the coach and GM are fired, all bets are off.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Is there anything in particular that concerns you about Caleb Williams? Shed some light please. Maybe take us out of the dark.

I like some of the other talent at top of draft over taking another QB that high

Harrison and one of Verse/Turner potentially with picks

The Bears absolutely need to address pass rusher in draft this year. Our D is pitiful at getting to QB

 

[stats1]

I am liking J.J. McCarthy if Bears go QB in this year's draft

The more I see of him the more I like him

Naturally they would trade down and pick him because he isn't a top 5 or even top 10 pick IMO

I see him going somewhere in teens

I’m with you. JJ has everything you want in a QB. Size, strong arm, mobile, he plays a pro style system at Michigan, I think he’s not getting enough coverage from the media which I can understand to a certain degree. This draft is loaded with QB’s. The Bears could probably trade down to 7-10 and get more picks and take JJ.

 

[Halladay]

Jefferson on IR. The Vikings know the drill.

 

[Tony Romo]

Jefferson on IR. The Vikings know the drill.

Wouldn't be surprised to start hearing Kirk be in trade talks as well.

 

[StreetHawk]

I’m with you. JJ has everything you want in a QB. Size, strong arm, mobile, he plays a pro style system at Michigan, I think he’s not getting enough coverage from the media which I can understand to a certain degree. This draft is loaded with QB’s. The Bears could probably trade down to 7-10 and get more picks and take JJ.

Loaded doesn't equate to top end talent. Most of the names mentioned like Ewers, Nix, Pennix JR, McCarthy, etc. you're probably looking at Cousins, Carr, Jimmy, Dak, Tanny, etc. in the 11-16 range of QBs overall in the NFL. Have to be realistic here. But, if those kids quickly figure it out like Dak did when he arrived and Purdy has done, it allows you to pay a few to several million a year for the QB position vs the $35 million plus that these vets command. Which helps you to add to your roster to help and take pressure off the QB.

Pick #20 this year signed 4 years at $14.5 mill total. That's under $4.5 mill per. Pick #9 was Carter and he got $21.8 mill over 4, years so $5.5 mill per. That's the key. Low salary for the QB who gets it quickly in the NFL and hits his lower ceiling, allowing you to build the rest of the roster.

If you are lucky and you get a Mahomes, Burrow, Herbert, Allen, Jackson, etc. level of play on their rookie deal, you've won the lottery. Chances are however, that you won't.

 

[pockets]

The Broncos/Pats game on 12/24 could end up being the Nightmare Before Christmas for the winner if both go full tank. Here's the latest order...

 

[StreetHawk]

The Broncos/Pats game on 12/24 could end up being the Nightmare Before Christmas for the winner if both go full tank. Here's the latest order...

Chi and Car play head to head. Denver/Min play as well. Den/NE. Winner of the head to heads, will move down the draft order.

See who sells their vets or guys who need new contracts in the off-season come TDL in like 3 weeks.

 

[pockets]

Chi and Car play head to head. Denver/Min play as well. Den/NE. Winner of the head to heads, will move down the draft order.

See who sells their vets or guys who need new contracts in the off-season come TDL in like 3 weeks.

As a Pats fan living in Colorado, I never thought I'd see the day where I actually want the Broncos to win.

 

[StreetHawk]

Its becoming clear Jones is not answer in NE

He's also not winning any fans in the NE front office and coaching staff. He keeps going this way, he's going to wind up as a backup for a young kid or a veteran that they want to have extra insurance on.