kdb209
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Smail said:Your numbers aren't really good though.Originally Posted by Gary
A team could have a very legit chance at a cup every 3 years if they used this system. Just imagine-Boston for example (Cause I know more of them then other teams) signed Thornton for $10 mill and 2 more seasons at $1 mill. Then they signed Samsonov for $6 mill and 2 more seasons at $1 mill. Boynton $6 mill and 2 more at $1 mill, Rayzor at $6 mill and 2 more seasons at $1 mill...that's 28 million in 4 players, and use kids for the rest. Next year sign another 4 star players the same way and by year 3 you'd have 8 star players making $8 million and you could afford to have a dynasty-type team for 1 season. Interesting post fisher.
First, your 4 players for 28 million leave about 7 million for the other 20 players (average of $350k each). This means you pay the rest of your team the league minimum, which is not possible in real life. As well, on the 4th year, you're going to run into major problems since you're probably not going to have room to do the same thing over again (since with your acquisitions, your average salary for the other players won't be $350k each). Add to this if you do that you can't trade those players (otherwise you have paid the bulk of the contract for nothing). Plus, you don't form a "dynasty-type" team over 1 season. Adding a ton of talent in 1 year is a recipe for disaster.
Another problem with these type of schemes - getting the players to go along. If you're Joe Thornton would you risk playing on what would effectively be an AHL team for a risky improved chance for a cup, when the downside is that at the end of it you're an RFA with a $1M QO instead of a $3M one.
Yes there will be some front loading and back loading of contracts, but both come with extreme risks - front load and have a major injury in year 2, back load and risk having to blow up your team to fit it in or face an impossible QO after the fact.
A lot of salary cap roulette goes on in the NFL - deferred bonus money going to dead cap space, a dependence on ever increasing revenues and cap limits to fit in back loaded contracts, etc.
There are fewer cap machinations in the NBA because of all the exceptions - get under the cap for the first year and you can get 12% raises every year even if over the cap, Larry Bird exceptions, etc.
If you want to gamble and go for it in one year (and live with the consequences later) there are less risky plays than your Joe Thornton and an AHL team scheme - backload contracts and worry about the consequences later or sign a UFA to a multi year deal with the intention of buying him out after a year (you get a star cheap for one year and pay his buyout against the cap over 2x his contract duration), etc.
There are many ways to play with a salary cap, and many ways to get burned - just ask the 9ers.