Friedman: Could the Leafs target Seth Jones?

[WarriorofTime]

I mean if you really want to shake things up and get Marner and Tavares to waive we could really cook up something crazy:

Toronto gets Jones at a discounted rate + 12.5 million in cap space to re-allocate to Pesce, Teravainanen, or hell even Reinhart.

Chicago could then either choose to keep Marner and Tavares or flip them as rentals at the deadline. No extension talks necessary.

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This is an atrocious deal for Chicago.

Hawks are not going to retain a high amount for SIX years. Especially to get the privilege of paying Mitch Marner $12 million AAV, and I don't even know what Tavares is doing there. Let alone adding in Kurashev who can either be extended or flipped since he's at a good value right now. Let alone giving TOR their '25 First back, during a REBUILD. Forget "flipping" Marner (and Tavares), they still have their NMC. If they waived it, they'd have to waive it again. That means they pick their spot and the Hawks take a 2nd round back and are grateful it's not nothing. This would be atrocious.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

The perfect Dman on a sweet deal isn't available

Jones is a really smart addition. Give him a good surrounding cast and he will elevate

I am skeptical that he would be for sale at all though. The Hawks will try to load up, not tear down

Hawks definitely aren’t trying to load up. This rebuild is long term and the playoffs aren’t expected for a couple more years.

 

[Mr Positive]

Hawks definitely aren’t trying to load up. This rebuild is long term and the playoffs aren’t expected for a couple more years.

They added Hall though, and even if they aren't planning to make the playoffs for a couple years, they want to continue building to it. Plus Jones won't be aged out in a couple years.

 

[AcerComputer]

Leafs should save their cap space for McDavid

 

[Hattrick Kane]

They added Hall though, and even if they aren't planning to make the playoffs for a couple years, they want to continue building to it. Plus Jones won't be aged out in a couple years.

Hall has 1 year left, is injured constantly and looks pretty cooked, he has no bearing on what the team does at this point.

Regardless, I’ve been following the Canadian media today, and it’s suspiciously similar to last year. Day after the leafs lose, the calls are for heads to roll.

But now the tones have changed. Now the media is planting the seeds for Marner to stay, for Shanahan to be back, and Keefe is going to take the fall. Nothing will change and the Leafs will suffer the same fate next year. It’s a big joke to them.

 

[Freaky Styley]

I was all over this idea when Jones was traded out of CBJ but I really don't get how it makes sense for CHI now.

I get getting an exciting vet for Bedard to play with but you really expose your young dmen and they are probably looking to make the playoffs year after next. Top pairing RHDs don't exactly grow on trees and they would create a huge hole right as they are trending upwards.

 

[JKG33]

Neither player improves the PP1.

Jones would become a 10M luxury, just like Marner, except for many more years.

The Leafs don't need to make a deal for the sake of making a deal. They need a PPQB, among other things.

Jones isn't a "luxury" when the team only has 2 top 4 d-men

 

[HanSolo]

Lol. Go for it guys. That'll be the the big fix for sure

 

[Neutrinos]

If Chicago just wants to get out of Jones' contract...

Jones for Tavares

The deal would be made with the understanding that Chicago would then buyout Tavares so he can sign with a contender

At that point, Tavares can either sign with Toronto on a 1-year deal for the league minimum, or take a bigger money deal elsewhere

Toronto get their big top pairing RD

Chicago get out from Jones' contract

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

It would be a mistake for Toronto but he'd look really good next to Reilly. They compliment each other really well.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Jones has his flaws in his game but if he was a Leaf he would instantly be their #1Dman. When he’s on his game, he’s a top 15 dman in the NHL. The only thing is, he’s not always on his game.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Marner for Jones @7 mil per

Hawks are not retaining on a contract for 6 years especially not at $2.5M a year

 

[NarcoPolo]

If Chicago just wants to get out of Jones' contract...

Jones for Tavares

The deal would be made with the understanding that Chicago would then buyout Tavares so he can sign with a contender

At that point, Tavares can either sign with Toronto on a 1-year deal for the league minimum, or take a bigger money deal elsewhere

Toronto get their big top pairing RD

Chicago get out from Jones' contract

Since when does Seth jones have Negative value?

 

[Perfect_Drug]

Leafs should save their cap space for McDavid

Why would McDavid want to go to Toronto?

If McDavid leaves Edmonton, it'll be to a team with Norris caliber defender, and a Vezina caliber goalie.

 

[Boxscore]

If the Hawks draft 2nd, and trade Jones to us for Marner, they enter next season with (hypothetically) Marner and Levshunov... which would be a nice add to Bedard. Marner setting up Bedard would be a glorious proposition the Hawks might not be able to pass up. As for the Leafs, what comes back with Jones? It won't be Moore, Reichel, Nazar, etc.

 

[Neutrinos]

Since when does Seth jones have Negative value?

Since he started making 9.5 million per season

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

A duo of Bedard and Marner in Chicago would be lethal. Marner would make the Hawks instantly better. Bedard needs an NHL calibre winger and they have the cap space to fit Marner with zero retention. If I was Treliving, Davidson would be the first GM I call up asking for a deal to be made.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

If for some reason both Marner and Jones said "Sure I would waive" then I think

To
RW Mitch Marner

To
D Seth Jones
C Colton Dach

Would work

At end of day neither GM has loyalty to these players. The GM who drafted Marner (Lou Lam) and the GM who extended him with big $ boost (Dubas) are both gone in Toronto while the guy who traded for Jones and extended him and drafted Dach (Bowman) is gone in Chicago

 

[JaegerDice]

You take Jones and we take Marner (with extension) and Tavares (no extension) off your hands. We trade Tavares somewhere at the TDL with 50 % retained after he spends a season teaching Bedard how to take faceoffs and the benefits of kale and kombucha..

We have the cap space to absorb it, we need NHL bodies, Toronto gets a new RD and 22 million to play with.

 

[razor ray]

To Chi: Pick #6 and possibly retain some of Marner
To Utah: Marner (extended)
To Tor: Seth Jones

Why:
Chi accelerates rebuild
Utah makes some noise by adding to a talented roster with plenty of cap space
Tor gets the #1 RD they need

 

[hotpaws]

To Chi: Pick #6 and possibly retain some of Marner
To Utah: Marner (extended)
To Tor: Seth Jones

Why:
Chi accelerates rebuild
Utah makes some noise by adding to a talented roster with plenty of cap space
Tor gets the #1 RD they need

no from Toronto but as a Leaf fan i'd much prefer the #6 instead of Jones , this being said i'm not trading Marner

the move we need to make is dumping Tavares , he's be a ufa after next season and after he's paid his bonus he's owed less than 1m in salary

 

[Leaf Fans]

I sure hope so, not sure how many of your teams fans feel the same.

If they do that they should keep Keefe and Shanahan too

There are many,currently, who want Marner traded I saw one that thought he could get himself a tim hortons coffee and a doughnut for him, but The team will do what it thinks best for the team regardless of the fans who want him gone. Things will calm down like they always do.

Said on Kyper tonight Leafs are targeting Montour and Pesch

Yeah, but it is Kyper.

 

[Bruce Granville]

If Chicago just wants to get out of Jones' contract...

Jones for Tavares

The deal would be made with the understanding that Chicago would then buyout Tavares so he can sign with a contender

At that point, Tavares can either sign with Toronto on a 1-year deal for the league minimum, or take a bigger money deal elsewhere

Toronto get their big top pairing RD

Chicago get out from Jones' contract

Buying out Tavares? Not happening.
Educate yourself.

 

[Scintillating10]

Yeah, but it is Kyper.

Friedman was on with him talking about it.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Friedman was on with him talking about it.

Yeah, that adds a bit more credibility, but Kyper .