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Yeah the population increasing would be a massive boost. I think relocation will happen in the NBA within ye next 5-10 years, perhaps Tpegs can have the tri-fecta
Yeah the population increasing would be a massive boost. I think relocation will happen in the NBA within ye next 5-10 years, perhaps Tpegs can have the tri-fecta
In 1968, the NL chose Montreal and San Diego. Was to be BUF instead of SD, but they didn't want to site both new teams in the East.To be fair, they were close but lost out to Miami/Denver back in 1991.
The existing allegiances of the population would seem to factor far less than the sheer volume of the population and the amount of disposable income they have.I think an NBA team would be very successful here. An MLB team? Nope. Everyone here is either a Yankee or Red Sox fan.
Add Detroit to that list, too.Why would buffalo have to pay off the Yankees and Mets?
The Jays, Pirates, and Indians are all far closer to Buffalo than those NYC teams.
This answer is best. For example, the Carolinas lack a MLB team, yet have several cities with greater population, more income, better weather, and similar AAA history to either re-locate or expand a team.This is the correct answer. MLB teams exist to provide opponents for the NYY and BOS. To a lessor extent LAD and STL.
There's no reason for Buffalo to get a team because other markets exist which offer more upside.
Yeah the population increasing would be a massive boost. I think relocation will happen in the NBA within ye next 5-10 years, perhaps Tpegs can have the tri-fecta
The Colleges draw nice crowds. But for an NBA team to be successful, like an MLB team, I think the population needs to increase and not continue to decrease.
Lower business taxes in WNY
Attract more business with good to excellent hourly wages/salaries
More people employed
More disposable income
More of the youth will stay in the area/more will move into the area
Population increases
MLB and/or NBA can be successful
2014 Buffalo and 1991 Buffalo are two different things. Population in the Buffalo area by itself is down 100,000 since 1991.
To Buffalo or in general? I doubt the NBA expands to Buffalo any time soon (or at all).
The Buffalo Metro area and the city of Buffalo are two different things.
City of Buffalo:
1950 580,132 0.7%
1960 532,759 −8.2%
1970 462,768 −13.1%
1980 357,870 −22.7%
1990 328,123 −8.3%
2000 292,648 −10.8%
2010 261,310 −10.7%
Buffalo-Niagara Metro:
1950 1,089,230 13.5%
1960 1,306,957 20.0%
1970 1,349,211 3.2%
1980 1,242,826 −7.9%
1990 1,189,340 −4.3%
2000 1,170,111 −1.6%
2010 1,135,509 −3.0%
Just from these stats alone, you can see that while the population of Buffalo has been cut in half, the Metro area is trending upwards. Granted, not at the rate of a lot of other metro areas, but nonetheless, it hasn't dropped off that much in 60 years. The population moving out into the suburbs.
I think Buffalo could definitely support a baseball team or basketball team for that matter. It's just if a league would take the chance on our smaller market vs. a larger market. I think we're lucky to have a football team here. If we never had an NFL team, and the league was expanding in 2014 there would be no way they would choose Buffalo or Green Bay over larger markets.
Obviously it takes more than population to land a team and besides an interested owner, we don't have a premier MLB stadium.
If MLB were to come to Buffalo I think they would want a new stadium to consider us. Think about a new stadium that is built into the grain elevators ala the green monster and also situated so when you hit a home run it will splash into the buffalo harbor ala SF's AT&T park.
I think I saw Coca Cola Field rated as the best minor league stadium somewhere once, but it would probably be the last on a list of MLB stadiums.
I cant even imagine what it would cost a Buffalo ownership group to convince the Yanks and Mets to allow this to happen... Consider the raw deal the Nats got when they moved into Baltimore's territory and then multiply it handsomely... IMO, no team in Buffalo could be profitable enough to offset the expenses incurred.
The Buffalo Metro area and the city of Buffalo are two different things.
City of Buffalo:
1950 580,132 0.7%
1960 532,759 −8.2%
1970 462,768 −13.1%
1980 357,870 −22.7%
1990 328,123 −8.3%
2000 292,648 −10.8%
2010 261,310 −10.7%
Buffalo-Niagara Metro:
1950 1,089,230 13.5%
1960 1,306,957 20.0%
1970 1,349,211 3.2%
1980 1,242,826 −7.9%
1990 1,189,340 −4.3%
2000 1,170,111 −1.6%
2010 1,135,509 −3.0%
Just from these stats alone, you can see that while the population of Buffalo has been cut in half, the Metro area is trending upwards. Granted, not at the rate of a lot of other metro areas, but nonetheless, it hasn't dropped off that much in 60 years. The population moving out into the suburbs.
That's an extremely generous way to look at it. If you're going to go back all the way to 1950, the city has lost 320,000 people and the suburbs have gained 45,000 people. That's a lot more than people just moving from the city to the suburbs.
If we compare Buffalo to Pittsburgh:The metro area isn't trending upwards, either. It's been a steady decline since the '70's.