Cooperstown 2017 (Selig, Scherholz, Pudge, Bagwell, Raines elected to HoF)

[Voight]

The Hall of Fame announced the 10-person ballot for the "Today's Game Era" vote that will be announced at the winter meetings on Dec. 5. This is the latest revision of the constantly changing voting procedures of the group formerly known as the Veterans Committee. This vote offers a second chance for election for those players the Baseball Writers Association of America have turned away, as well as an avenue to elect managers, executives, umpires, team owners and, yes, commissioners.

The voting rules: The 16-member committee (the same as in previous Veterans Committee elections) consisting of Hall of Fame players, plus executives and veteran media members, will convene at the winter meeting and vote. A candidate must receive 75 percent of the vote (12 of 16) to get elected.

This year's ballot of 10 names includes only five players (who must be retired at least 15 years). It's worth noting that, since 2000, the Veterans Committee has elected just three relatively modern players, Bill Mazeroski in 2001, Joe Gordon in 2009 and Ron Santo in 2012. But it has elected 15 non-player members (not including the special Negro Leagues committee in 2006), which probably tells you who has the best chance of getting elected.

This years ballot includes:

Mark McGwire
Will Clark
Albert Belle
Orel Hershiser
Harold Baines
Bud Selig
George Steinbrenner
Davey Johnson
Lou Piniella
John Schuerholz

Who would you induct?

My choices - Steinbrenner, John Schuerholz & Piniella (between him & Johnson for me, it could go either way).

** This thread can be used as a general thread as we get closer to the announcement for the 2017 class **

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[Sens Rule]

McGwire and Belle should both be in the Hall. Except the Roids issue for McGwire and Belle being a very unlikeable person.

I would elect both, but I doubt this committee will choose them.

This is the last regular eligibility year for Tim Raines. I think he gets 75%... but if he doesn't he will be elected by this veteran's committee soon enough.

 

[John Price]

There is no reason Steinbrenner should not be in the HoF.

 

[John Price]

RT @jareddiamond Bud Selig going into the Hall of Fame is just another reminder of how embarrassing it is to baseball that Marvin Miller isn't.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Apparently, simply being commissioner for more than five years is enough to get in the Hall of Fame.

Just hope that Pat Hughes wins the Frick and gets in.

 

[Terry Yake]

lol @ selig getting in. there's no reason why he should be in the HOF

raines, steinbrenner, and belle are who i'd induct

 

[SJSharksfan39]

Are they still going to elect ball players or is this it other than the Frick award? There is almost like a roadblock on the HOF ballot and no players are going in this year?

 

[SladeWilson23]

Steinbrenner will get in eventually.

 

[Voight]

lol @ selig getting in. there's no reason why he should be in the HOF

raines, steinbrenner, and belle are who i'd induct

Agreed. He nearly killed the sport and was way behind the curve on PEDs.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

So the commissioner who oversaw the steroid era is in the HOF, but any player even suspected, without proof of use, gets it held against them...

 

[KesselBuiltMyHotrod]

the ballot for the actual Hall of Fame

 

[Elvis P]

So the commissioner who oversaw the steroid era is in the HOF, but any player even suspected, without proof of use, gets it held against them...

Yeah, there's video of him admitting the problem before the home run record was broken and he did nothing for years thus creating the HoF problem of guys such as Bonds and Clemens not being in.

 

[Halladay]

JD Drew is eligible, Im getting old.

 

[Pwnasaurus]

So the commissioner who oversaw the steroid era is in the HOF, but any player even suspected, without proof of use, gets it held against them...

Pretty much. When they were rattling off his accomplishments, the only 2 things I can literally remember him for are being commissioner during the strike and the steroid era.

 

[StatesideSensFan]

saw on Twitter that Steinbrenner has been on less than 5 ballots thus far; not looking good for him

Selig in

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

Hypocritical to elect the steroid enabler but keep the guys who used them out.

 

[Halladay]

Pretty much. When they were rattling off his accomplishments, the only 2 things I can literally remember him for are being commissioner during the strike and the steroid era.

Ehh didnt he introduce the wild card?

 

[Pwnasaurus]

Ehh didnt he introduce the wild card?

I suppose he did. Do we like it though?

 

[Terry Yake]

mussina should be in without a doubt

from that ballot i'd go mussina, pudge, and raines

 

[MurrayBannerman]

Jeff Bagwell

 

[rangerssharks414]

Hoffman is going to get in, isn't he?

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

I suppose he did. Do we like it though?

The original one? Yes. The new one? Not so much.


As for who l'd vote for:

Bonds
Clemens
Bagwell
Mussina
Raines
Pudge
Edgar
Schilling
McGriff


Can't wait to see who votes for Freddy Sanchez.

 

[Tecumseh]

the ballot for the actual Hall of Fame

Why is that guy voting for Lee Smith? Not sold on Hoffman either

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

McGwire and Belle should both be in the Hall. Except the Roids issue for McGwire and Belle being a very unlikeable person.

I would elect both, but I doubt this committee will choose them.

This is the last regular eligibility year for Tim Raines. I think he gets 75%... but if he doesn't he will be elected by this veteran's committee soon enough.

Disagree on Belle

Great player in his prime but overall his career is not HOF ,, If he gets in then it opens door for a lot of others who generally are not viewed as HOF

Belle is basically his generations Dick Allen to be honest

 

[Pwnasaurus]

Belle is basically his generations Dick Allen to be honest

That's a great comp, on and off the field.