Post-Series Talk: Colorado Avalanche defeat the Winnipeg Jets, 4-1

[Ncit3]

Really reminded me of that 2019 Calgary-Colorado series. Least the Flames shut em out in game 1 and they had Mike Smith not the likely Vezina winner

Jets needed to find a way to slow the Avs down through the NZ and they couldn't. Really they needed to slow down the game in every zone. I didn't mind the Monahan pickup for them but then to get Toffoli too, that's just a lot of 1 dimensional slow players in your top 6. I don't think I can put this on Hellebuyck but he needed to be great for the Jets to have a good chance in this series and he simply wasn't.

To me this was just a matter of Winnipeg's core just not being up to par.
MacK > Scheif
Rantanen > Connor
Makar > Morrissey

then the secondary big pieces were also outperformed
Nuke > Ehlers
Mittlestadt > Monahan/Toffoli/Vilardi
Toews > ???? I have no idea who the Jets 2nd best dman is supposed to be? Pionk?




I don't see it. Morrissey is a solid offensive #1 but after that it's bunch of fairly average 2nd pairing guys.

Wasn't that Calgary series the one that spawned this image?

 

[JoeSakic13]

I’m just bummed that we played the entire series and I still have no idea who this Nick Chewshkin guy ESPN keeps mentioning is.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Avs are a top heavy team, but thats not much of a problem against a team like the Jets, whose ‘high-end talent’ isnt nearly quality enough to battle the Avs top-end to a draw.

Such a bad take. If nothing, this series showed depth of the Avalanche.

Horrible series for Hellebuyck

5.23

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This was key why this ended in five. We got lucky with George and Jets unlucky with Helle.

 

[Plastic Joseph]

Jets are a solid team. They shut down the Avs top line well.

But for all the depth that the analysts talked about it was the Avs second and third lines that tilted the ice against the Monahan and Toffoli types that don't drive play.

5 GP

Mack - 9 pts
Rantanen - 9 pts
Nichushkin - 7 goals

I know a lot was on the PP, but that is far from shutting them down. They had good periods but also had collapses.

 

[Wasted Talent]

Is Cheveldayoff's job safe?

I know Jets fans seem to like the moves he made, but he's also the 2nd longest tenured GM in the league. You'd think he'd have more than 3 series win in 13 seasons to show for it with that kind of job security.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

Avs were exactly what you expect them to be in the playoffs, but it's always a wow factor to actually see that pace and intensity in action.

In my opinion Jets lost the series from game 3's 3rd period to game 4. Overwhelmed and not enough pushback, and all of a sudden the series is 3-1.

Other than that it was pretty even knowing the Avs were going to have their surges and the Jets would sometimes have to weather them. But if the best thing you can do is play the other team even, then it's tough to win a series. Bucky would've had to have a series for the ages.

It's starting to become a common theme for Winnipeg that they just lose to quicker teams in the playoffs. It's tough to make big changes after the regular season they just had, but there has to be more emphasis on speed for this team otherwise it's just the same result every time.

 

[Plastic Joseph]

One of the biggest things is that Makar is playing like its the 2022 playoffs again

 

[dirtydanglez]

avs speed and skill was just overwhelming. sucks for the jets because they had a good team.

 

[bobholly39]

I remember Jets fans laughing at me after my game 1 prediction, when Jets won 7-6, when I said the following:

Jets had 2 problems:

1. They won't continue to average 7 goals a game
2. Colorado will continue to average 6 goals a game

Whose laughing now? Looks like I was right

As usual - Jets choke big time in playoffs.
Colorado will be tough to beat this year.

 

[JoeSakic13]

I remember Jets fans laughing at me after my game 1 prediction, when Jets won 7-6, when I said the following:

Jets had 2 problems:

1. They won't continue to average 7 goals a game
2. Colorado will continue to average 6 goals a game

Whose laughing now? Looks like I was right

As usual - Jets choke big time in playoffs.
Colorado will be tough to beat this year.

Do you have the receipts on #2?

#1 I think was pretty obvious (no team would average that many), but you may have been the only person who predicted #2.

 

[GrkFlyersFan]

A run and gun series was always going to go for Colorado. Colorado scored at will all series. Winnipeg would have had a chance in a tighter series. Alternatively, play this series in a more defensive era, Winnipeg would win.

 

[bobholly39]

Do you have the receipts on #2?

#1 I think was pretty obvious (no team would average that many), but you may have been the only person who predicted #2.

Good question. Just for fun....

My initial post:

GDT: - WCQF (Game 2) Winnipeg Jets vs Colorado Avalanche , 9:30pm ET, ESPN

Go Jets Go! :hockey:

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Some replies:

GDT: - WCQF (Game 2) Winnipeg Jets vs Colorado Avalanche , 9:30pm ET, ESPN

I also don’t think there will be lead changes. So low scoring and steady IMO. If Avs score first 3-2 avs, vice versa for if jets score first. Of course - the wild card is Georgiev. 7-2 jets won’t surprise me. 7-2 Avs feels next to impossible to me after last game. You never know though...

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GDT: - WCQF (Game 2) Winnipeg Jets vs Colorado Avalanche , 9:30pm ET, ESPN

I also don’t think there will be lead changes. So low scoring and steady IMO. If Avs score first 3-2 avs, vice versa for if jets score first. Of course - the wild card is Georgiev. 7-2 jets won’t surprise me. 7-2 Avs feels next to impossible to me after last game. You never know though...

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GDT: - WCQF (Game 2) Winnipeg Jets vs Colorado Avalanche , 9:30pm ET, ESPN

I also don’t think there will be lead changes. So low scoring and steady IMO. If Avs score first 3-2 avs, vice versa for if jets score first. Of course - the wild card is Georgiev. 7-2 jets won’t surprise me. 7-2 Avs feels next to impossible to me after last game. You never know though...

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@winnipegger @CaptainUgly @Jetcetera

Are we having fun yet?

 

[Satan]

I’m just bummed that we played the entire series and I still have no idea who this Nick Chewshkin guy ESPN keeps mentioning is.

is he related to Nick Ooskin

 

[SillyRabbit]

I wonder if we'll ever find out who the player was who called them being frauds two months ago.

Allegedly someone in the central...

 

[BB88]

Did you even watch the series? The top players of the Avs didn't really even play that well, I mean Makar did but MacKinnon and Rantanen were average or bellow that. It was the 4 stroke cylinder of the Avs that got the job done. Artturi f***ing Lehkonen got 5 goals, 8 points in the series. Don't even get me started on Nuke or Mittelstadt.

The expectations are quite high when 9 points in 5 games is being average or below average

 

[JoeSakic13]

Good question. Just for fun....

My initial post:

GDT: - WCQF (Game 2) Winnipeg Jets vs Colorado Avalanche , 9:30pm ET, ESPN

Go Jets Go! :hockey:

forums.hfboards.com

Some replies:

GDT: - WCQF (Game 2) Winnipeg Jets vs Colorado Avalanche , 9:30pm ET, ESPN

I also don’t think there will be lead changes. So low scoring and steady IMO. If Avs score first 3-2 avs, vice versa for if jets score first. Of course - the wild card is Georgiev. 7-2 jets won’t surprise me. 7-2 Avs feels next to impossible to me after last game. You never know though...

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GDT: - WCQF (Game 2) Winnipeg Jets vs Colorado Avalanche , 9:30pm ET, ESPN

I also don’t think there will be lead changes. So low scoring and steady IMO. If Avs score first 3-2 avs, vice versa for if jets score first. Of course - the wild card is Georgiev. 7-2 jets won’t surprise me. 7-2 Avs feels next to impossible to me after last game. You never know though...

forums.hfboards.com

GDT: - WCQF (Game 2) Winnipeg Jets vs Colorado Avalanche , 9:30pm ET, ESPN

I also don’t think there will be lead changes. So low scoring and steady IMO. If Avs score first 3-2 avs, vice versa for if jets score first. Of course - the wild card is Georgiev. 7-2 jets won’t surprise me. 7-2 Avs feels next to impossible to me after last game. You never know though...

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@winnipegger @CaptainUgly @Jetcetera

Are we having fun yet?

I stand corrected. Impressive prediction.

 

[Grigowski]

Alternatively, play this series in a more defensive era, Winnipeg would win.

Still No, they would not. More Defensive era is one thing, but the AVS just have more firepower and quality-players. If you are getting hammered in your own end and your goalie under siege most of the time, you wont win many games. Especially not against a team that has MacKinnon, Rantanen, Makar, Nichushkin and Playoff-Lehkonen on their side. You have to nearly play a perfect Defensive game to win 4 games this way.. Sorry, thats not gonna happen against a real contender.

The 2nd line of Colorado with mittelstadt was imho the best line out there and took the Jets Top-Dogs to the cleaners most of the time.

Thats why a capable 2nd line center is a must if you want to go the distance. And thank god MacFarland finally adressed this issue.

This was not all about "more defensive era" or Helleybuck getting bombed.

Georgiev not getting his shit together prevented this series to go even 5 games. With all respect to Winnipeg and their fans.

Colorado was imho just one level above the Jets in this series which totally surprised me. I didnt see this coming, to be honest. Not after the last 3 weeks of the regular season when we played like a "wild card" team.

Bowness said it in his presser: Colorado took their game to another level. A level we havent seen in the regular season. The Jets on the other side couldnt.

 

[AMDZen]

I’m just bummed that we played the entire series and I still have no idea who this Nick Chewshkin guy ESPN keeps mentioning is.

The important thing is that the Avs made broadcast timing easy on ESPN since they knew when the games would be over.

At Five-Past Hellebuyck!

 

[missionAvs]

I remember Jets fans laughing at me after my game 1 prediction, when Jets won 7-6, when I said the following:

Jets had 2 problems:

1. They won't continue to average 7 goals a game
2. Colorado will continue to average 6 goals a game

Whose laughing now? Looks like I was right

As usual - Jets choke big time in playoffs.
Colorado will be tough to beat this year.

I actually remember you posting this and as an Avs fan, I thought you were bananas with that #2 prediction. Great call. I'm glad I didn't respond to this when it was posted lol.

 

[BB88]

Georgiev's resurgence was the true turning point for the series. If he can play the way he did in games 2-5, I seriously think we have a good chance at the cup

The big question is how will he handle a long run?

There were comments about him being tired months ago already

 

[BLONG7]

Jets got the short straw folks..................they just were no match for the Avs.

 

[dirtydanglez]

The big question is how will he handle a long run?

There were comments about him being tired months ago already

avs gave him a rest and played annunen quite a bit before the playoffs. with some luck he might get a bit of a rest here too.

 

[John Mandalorian]

The expectations are quite high when 9 points in 5 games is being average or below average

On top of that, Bednar cut back their minutes once Mittelstadts line started finding chemistry.

 

[Duder54]

Really expected this to be a much closer series. Hellebuyck's SV% shockingly bad.

Avs top end skill, depth and experience really shone through - gonna be a tough out for Dallas/Vegas in round 2 now.

 

[BB88]

avs gave him a rest and played annunen quite a bit before the playoffs. with some luck he might get a bit of a rest here too.

He gets a little rest but you it’s still 3 long playoff rounds untill the end

Either Vegas/Dallas will give a different type of challenge to Colorado