Confirmed Trade: [COL/BUF] Casey Mittelstadt for Bowen Byram

[Beerz]

No way he gets 7 million. How would he wheel the wheelbarrow away? He can't even do a pull up!

 

[dirtydanglez]

Huh? Aside from maybe Toews, who has taken a discount? Avs players get PAID. They just do a phenomenal job of identifying players who are going to break out soon and get them locked up long term (which is probably at least partially why they’re more likely to give in on AAV, since they know the player will likely outperform the contract).

mackinnon is the only other guy to take a discount

 

[Muffin]

Just want to say Mittelstadt is part of the Duchene trade tree. The trade that keeps on giving.

 

[The Nuge]

mackinnon is the only other guy to take a discount

Did he even though? His first big contract he was coming off seasons of 38 and 52 points. 6.3 million at that time was paying based on potential, not performance. And his second big contract made him the highest paid player in the league

 

[El Travo]

mackinnon is the only other guy to take a discount

This myth needs to go away. It was one by the end, but he didn't sign at a discount.

 

[Jared Dunn]

This myth needs to go away. It was one by the end, but he didn't sign at a discount.

It was an outstanding discount by year 2 he just didn't mean to, hope he fired his agent lol

 

[Jared Dunn]

the cap is finally going up a lot in the coming years and I'm sure he and his agent are well aware. If he signs for that it would be very generous.

the comparisons dont really work at all.

I think Strome is not a bad comparable, two high picks that took a while to find their footing in their mid 20s as a 60ish point solid 2C.

 

[Eltuna]

Huh? Aside from maybe Toews, who has taken a discount? Avs players get PAID. They just do a phenomenal job of identifying players who are going to break out soon and get them locked up long term (which is probably at least partially why they’re more likely to give in on AAV, since they know the player will likely outperform the contract).

Rantanen signed for a full 1.5M less than Marner during the same offseason where they were two of the more comparable players in the entire league.

Makar deal was also very good, he originally asked for 11M over 5 years which would have been his market value at the time but Sakic convinced him to take a discount to remain competitive, he only signed for 1M more than Chabot for example and that was after Maker only lost the Norris that season due to injury.

Landeskog also took less than market when he signed (I believe the report was 9M offered to him but he took 7M with Avs), his contract was similar to Stamkos in Tampa where it went right to the wire to free agency before he accepted he needed to take less.

Avs core guys I would say on average shave off about 1-2M on what they could realistically get on the market. Even Mackinnon could have gotten more if he wanted to without a doubt

 

[dirtydanglez]

Did he even though? His first big contract he was coming off seasons of 38 and 52 points. 6.3 million at that time was paying based on potential, not performance. And his second big contract made him the highest paid player in the league

yea both were discounts. more so the second one.

This myth needs to go away. It was one by the end, but he didn't sign at a discount.

end? it just started

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Huh? Aside from maybe Toews, who has taken a discount? Avs players get PAID. They just do a phenomenal job of identifying players who are going to break out soon and get them locked up long term (which is probably at least partially why they’re more likely to give in on AAV, since they know the player will likely outperform the contract).

Rantanen and makar both could have gotten more if they were on other teams.

 

[Perratrooper]

Casey finally arriving after Cozens cashed out on his extension was just poor timing, sucks quite frankly. But we'll see what happens with Byram.


You could also argue the guy who has outproduced Dylan Cozens since 2023 All-Star game deserves the same contract as him or more.

You definitely could argue that, but I would argue that the two aren’t good comparables. Cozens signed after coming off of a year where he hit 30 goals and 60+ points, both of which Mittlestadt has yet to hit. Cozens contract was also speculative in nature based on a really strong start to his career. The GM decided to try and get ahead of a budding star in the hopes that a few years down the road the contract would be favorable. In my opinion the two are not in similae positions from a contract perspective.

Thompson also signed a similar contract to Cozens that summer, I would argue he’s substantially better than Mitts. If that’s what Tage got there’s no way Mitts is worth that.

 

[McJedi]

Huh? Aside from maybe Toews, who has taken a discount? Avs players get PAID. They just do a phenomenal job of identifying players who are going to break out soon and get them locked up long term (which is probably at least partially why they’re more likely to give in on AAV, since they know the player will likely outperform the contract).

Landy took a huge one. Makar makes less than Seth Jones and your crappy player Nurse. Lex makes $4.75mm. He’s elite. Nuke makes $6mm and he’s amazing.

Most of them take discounts. Rants is paid $2mm less than Marner.

 

[Beerz]

You definitely could argue that, but I would argue that the two aren’t good comparables. Cozens signed after coming off of a year where he hit 30 goals and 60+ points, both of which Mittlestadt has yet to hit. Cozens contract was also speculative in nature based on a really strong start to his career. The GM decided to try and get ahead of a budding star in the hopes that a few years down the road the contract would be favorable. In my opinion the two are not in similae positions from a contract perspective.

Thompson also signed a similar contract to Cozens that summer, I would argue he’s substantially better than Mitts. If that’s what Tage got there’s no way Mitts is worth that.

Thompson is a better goal scorer than Casey ... but that's about it.

 

[Remparts666]

You definitely could argue that, but I would argue that the two aren’t good comparables. Cozens signed after coming off of a year where he hit 30 goals and 60+ points, both of which Mittlestadt has yet to hit. Cozens contract was also speculative in nature based on a really strong start to his career. The GM decided to try and get ahead of a budding star in the hopes that a few years down the road the contract would be favorable. In my opinion the two are not in similae positions from a contract perspective.

Thompson also signed a similar contract to Cozens that summer, I would argue he’s substantially better than Mitts. If that’s what Tage got there’s no way Mitts is worth that.

This.

Comps with Cozens' contract are ridiculous. 6,3 200pounds and 70 pts at 22 yrs old. Signed right after that year.

I think he gets less than 6. Max 6M

 

[Perratrooper]

Thompson is a better goal scorer than Casey ... but that's about it.

Sooo you’re telling me if Mitts signed 6x6 you’d trade Thompson for him straight up?

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

Sooo you’re telling me if Mitts signed 6x6 you’d trade Thompson for him straight up?

Yeah, I would take Mittelstadt over Thompson. He's a better player over 200'. Imagine having both and not having to choose though. I wouldn't expect Avs fans to break their brains trying to imagine their front office is incompetent though. I have only vague memories of my team being run with a sensical purpose.

 

[sabremike]

This is really going to end up one of the biggest LOLCOW trades ever that people talk about for years to come. To recap:

-Kevyn From Accounting trades a legit top 6 center we spent years developing just as he was bearing fruit.

-He traded him for a player who was redundant to what we already had, whose career had fallen completely off a cliff and then proceeded to be (along with Joker) just about the worst player on the team and statistically one of the worst at his entire position post deadline. Any time he was in his own end you knew something bad was going to happen.

-Mitts is playing as well as anyone with a brain could've figured he would and will likely win the cup.

-Now the Sabres have a gigantic hole at center they have no goddamned idea how they will fill given that almost any player worth acquiring has a NTC and would sooner waive it to be traded to a team in the KHL than traded to us.

 

[dirtydanglez]

He played very well right now.
He fit very well with Lehkonen.
Colorado got some cap problem
Considering Goalies are signed for next year
It Left 2 Defensive spot
If they give this to Berhens & Malinski

If landeskog return
They have around 9M in cap space to signed 3 of theses players
Mittlestadt - Drouin - Duhaime - Trenin - Cogliano - Kirviranta - Parise
To me you can afford 6M to Casey - 2 to Joe and balance to Trenin but it probably want more.
But if Ritchie is NHL ready lines could be like this

Drouin Mackinnon Rantanen
Lehkonen Mittlestadt Nichushkin
Landeskog Ritchie Kovalenko
Wood Colton O'connor

More Balance offence left time to Big guns to play a little bit less and be ready and healthy for playoff

landy very likely isnt coming back

 

[GirardSpinorama]

This.

Comps with Cozens' contract are ridiculous. 6,3 200pounds and 70 pts at 22 yrs old. Signed right after that year.

I think he gets less than 6. Max 6M

Less than 6, and CMAC needs a statue.

 

[Beerz]

Sooo you’re telling me if Mitts signed 6x6 you’d trade Thompson for him straight up?

Yes.

 

[stokes84]

Thompson is a better goal scorer than Casey ... but that's about it.

I might be the biggest Mittlestadt booster around. Thompson is a far superior player. Let’s get a grip.

Yes.

One of the worst takes I’ve seen in a while.

 

[Beerz]

I might be the biggest Mittlestadt booster around. Thompson is a far superior player. Let’s get a grip.


One of the worst takes I’ve seen in a while.

We'll disagree

 

[tsujimoto74]

Sooo you’re telling me if Mitts signed 6x6 you’d trade Thompson for him straight up?

No, but you’re going to get a bunch of bad knee-jerk reactions just because Tage was fighting a hand/wrist injury for a lot of last season.

 

[Bruce Granville]

Rantanen signed for a full 1.5M less than Marner during the same offseason where they were two of the more comparable players in the entire league.

Makar deal was also very good, he originally asked for 11M over 5 years which would have been his market value at the time but Sakic convinced him to take a discount to remain competitive, he only signed for 1M more than Chabot for example and that was after Maker only lost the Norris that season due to injury.

Landeskog also took less than market when he signed (I believe the report was 9M offered to him but he took 7M with Avs), his contract was similar to Stamkos in Tampa where it went right to the wire to free agency before he accepted he needed to take less.

Avs core guys I would say on average shave off about 1-2M on what they could realistically get on the market. Even Mackinnon could have gotten more if he wanted to without a doubt

You should rather list the players who didn’t take a discount…

 

[Panthaz89]

Count on the Sabres to cut loose one of their best players right when they're ready to hit their prime. Perpetual incompetence.

It's as If we traded him for someone who has already proven himself and already had pretty good playoff run in a Stanley cup run but sure let's pretend we just gave him away....