Confirmed with Link: Chris Neil Extended 1 year 1.5 Million

Pierre from Orleans

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Didn't Alfredsson say his legacy wasn't as important to him as it was for the fans or something like that? I could be wrong or don't remember exactly what was said in what context.
 

Xspyrit

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That's not the issue. The issue is when the one dimension that they do bring doesn't make up for their shortcomings in all the other areas.

Saying all of that, I don't mind Neil and Boro on the team as long as their roles are well defined and are not playing all the time. Neil should be a 13th forward and Boro should be a 7th D. Going in and out of lineup as needed.

Out of 19 forwards who played for the Senators this season, Chris Neil is 18th in ICE-TIME PER GAME

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...t=timeOnIcePerGame&aggregate=0&teamId=9&pos=F

Only Colin Greening played less... LET THAT SINK IN and then come back.


Out of 9 D-men who played for the Senators this season, Mark Borowicki is 8th in ICE-TIME PER GAME (and he is last at ES TOI/G)

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...t=timeOnIcePerGame&aggregate=0&teamId=9&pos=D

Only Chris Wideman played less... LET THAT SINK IN and then come back.


Do you understand why many of us think the "naysayers" are just yapping for nothing most of the time? Exactly for situations like this.
 
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WadeRedden

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Uhg. This, in a nut shell, is one of the major things wrong with our society right now.

Lazy, apathetic way of thinking, coupled with blind acceptance of things "just because".

With thoughts like this, can we really believe we deserve better?

I don't mean to zone in on you personally, we all do it, your post just painted a Rembrandt to illustrate it.

I dunno, I didn't really get a lot from this response.

Not sure how what I suggested was in any way lazy or apathetic. Also, in my post I wasn't suggesting the team move on "just because." I said they should have done an honest assessment of the player and if his play doesn't warrant a contract extension, they respectfully tell the player they're moving on and allow him to offer his services to other teams. That's just how you need to do business when you're trying to build a team in the most competitive hockey league in the world.
 

aragorn

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Out of 19 forwards who played for the Senators this season, Chris Neil is 18th in ICE-TIME PER GAME

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...t=timeOnIcePerGame&aggregate=0&teamId=9&pos=F

Only Colin Greening played less... LET THAT SINK IN and then come back.


Out of 9 D-men who played for the Senators this season, Mark Borowicki is 8th in ICE-TIME PER GAME (and he is last at ES TOI/G)

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...t=timeOnIcePerGame&aggregate=0&teamId=9&pos=D

Only Chris Wideman played less... LET THAT SINK IN and then come back.


Do you understand why many of us think the "naysayers" are just yapping for nothing most of the time? Exactly for situations like this.
:laugh: good one.
 

PoutineSp00nZ

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Out of 19 forwards who played for the Senators this season, Chris Neil is 18th in ICE-TIME PER GAME

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...t=timeOnIcePerGame&aggregate=0&teamId=9&pos=F

Only Colin Greening played less... LET THAT SINK IN and then come back.


Out of 9 D-men who played for the Senators this season, Mark Borowicki is 8th in ICE-TIME PER GAME (and he is last at ES TOI/G)

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...t=timeOnIcePerGame&aggregate=0&teamId=9&pos=D

Only Chris Wideman played less... LET THAT SINK IN and then come back.


Do you understand why many of us think the "naysayers" are just yapping for nothing most of the time? Exactly for situations like this.

This post nails it.
 

Sens of Anarchy

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Out of 19 forwards who played for the Senators this season, Chris Neil is 18th in ICE-TIME PER GAME

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...t=timeOnIcePerGame&aggregate=0&teamId=9&pos=F

Only Colin Greening played less... LET THAT SINK IN and then come back.


Out of 9 D-men who played for the Senators this season, Mark Borowicki is 8th in ICE-TIME PER GAME (and he is last at ES TOI/G)

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...t=timeOnIcePerGame&aggregate=0&teamId=9&pos=D

Only Chris Wideman played less... LET THAT SINK IN and then come back.


Do you understand why many of us think the "naysayers" are just yapping for nothing most of the time? Exactly for situations like this.

Good points!
 

God Says No

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Out of 19 forwards who played for the Senators this season, Chris Neil is 18th in ICE-TIME PER GAME

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...t=timeOnIcePerGame&aggregate=0&teamId=9&pos=F

Only Colin Greening played less... LET THAT SINK IN and then come back.


Out of 9 D-men who played for the Senators this season, Mark Borowicki is 8th in ICE-TIME PER GAME (and he is last at ES TOI/G)

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...t=timeOnIcePerGame&aggregate=0&teamId=9&pos=D

Only Chris Wideman played less... LET THAT SINK IN and then come back.


Do you understand why many of us think the "naysayers" are just yapping for nothing most of the time? Exactly for situations like this.

Hey man, I have no problems with ice time this year. But I do have a problem with the amount of games they play. At this point in his career, and more likely next year, Neil should be going in and out of the lineup depending on who we play. If that's the case, I have no concerns with him staying one more year. If he's playing every game and playing 8 min a game, what's the point? Mind as well get someone else who contributes more.

Boro should be rotating with Wier. They're in the same boat right now. 6th/7th on the depth chart. Play them according to the match ups just like Neil. You have to put players in the position to succeed. Playing Boro and Neil every game does not do that.
 

aragorn

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Hey man, I have no problems with ice time this year. But I do have a problem with the amount of games they play. At this point in his career, and more likely next year, Neil should be going in and out of the lineup depending on who we play. If that's the case, I have no concerns with him staying one more year. If he's playing every game and playing 8 min a game, what's the point? Mind as well get someone else who contributes more.

Boro should be rotating with Wier. They're in the same boat right now. 6th/7th on the depth chart. Play them according to the match ups just like Neil. You have to put players in the position to succeed. Playing Boro and Neil every game does not do that.

Yea, I don't think so. Boro is not in the same boat as Wiercioch since they are trying to trade Wiercioch & he is constantly a healthy scratch. Boro on the other hand is loved by the GM & the coach which is why they stuck an "A" on his jersey to the chagrin of many on here. Boro isn't going anywhere anytime soon but Wiercioch could be soon, people may hate that but it is what it is.

Same for Neil, I could see Chiasson being traded or sat out before they sit out Neil. He has been playing pretty well especially lately with Paul & Lazar & he knows his role & the team needs him to play that role for them. Chiasson on the other hand has been okay but much more offensive production I think was expected from him. I know you are not a Chiasson supporter but I'm not sure who else would replace either of these guys at RW in the organization. I like Robinson but there are no guarantees he would be any better than Chiasson or potentially worse & no one is tougher than Neil in this organization. Maybe they pick someone up in the off season to play right wing to challenge them but as of right now, I don't see that changing & I certainly don't see a prospect replacing Neil. All of the roster challenges at the moment seem to be at LW or centre not RW.
 

Xspyrit

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Hey man, I have no problems with ice time this year. But I do have a problem with the amount of games they play. At this point in his career, and more likely next year, Neil should be going in and out of the lineup depending on who we play. If that's the case, I have no concerns with him staying one more year. If he's playing every game and playing 8 min a game, what's the point? Mind as well get someone else who contributes more.

Boro should be rotating with Wier. They're in the same boat right now. 6th/7th on the depth chart. Play them according to the match ups just like Neil. You have to put players in the position to succeed. Playing Boro and Neil every game does not do that.

Ok they play too many games. Neil shouldn't play that many games as his playing style and aging makes it hard for him to stay healthy. He only played 38 games last year. But he changed his style a bit this year so he was able to remain healthy

But what is wrong with Neil if he plays minimal minutes? He plays physical (something that is still important in hockey) and doesn't hurt the team defensively. Out of the 12 forwards who played the most this season, Neil is 4th in GA60 at ES.

http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/rat...200&teamid=21&type=goals&sort=A60&sortdir=ASC

Borowiecki is fine at 6th/7th but because of Cowen and Wiercioch not developing as expected, we lacked defensive depth earlier. Hopefully someone comes in next year (Claesson?) and makes him expendable and be the 7th guy rotating with Wideman or injuries.

That being said, the hate for Boro on this board is irrational.
 

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Out of 19 forwards who played for the Senators this season, Chris Neil is 18th in ICE-TIME PER GAME

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...t=timeOnIcePerGame&aggregate=0&teamId=9&pos=F

Only Colin Greening played less... LET THAT SINK IN and then come back.


Out of 9 D-men who played for the Senators this season, Mark Borowicki is 8th in ICE-TIME PER GAME (and he is last at ES TOI/G)

http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?rep...t=timeOnIcePerGame&aggregate=0&teamId=9&pos=D

Only Chris Wideman played less... LET THAT SINK IN and then come back.


Do you understand why many of us think the "naysayers" are just yapping for nothing most of the time? Exactly for situations like this.

Totally biased. Go back, crunch the numbers at EV and players with monosyllabic first and last names. Then tell me how many guys are ahead of him..
 

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