Discussion in 'New York Rangers' started by Krams, Feb 19, 2020.
he stuck up for Mika after the game too
100% agreed. Im just jaded with Kreider at this point, like an ex you keep getting back with thinking its gonna be different this time. I wish he was consistent even when hes not puttin pts up, but I guess his Ovechkin streaks balance it out.
He is what he is. The most consistent thing about his game for 10 years is the streakyness.
If Kreider can maintain his level of play for 3 years, he will be an attractive trade asset by the time his NTC kicks in. I starting to eat crow about my disapproval on the extension.
I hate to break it to you but he's going to finish his career playing for just one team. This one.
Agreed. Part of me feels it's because this team needed a real leader and his play (and off ice stuff as well) says he is it.
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. Let’s be honest outside of the top elite players EVERY nhl player is streaky. I think the problem is and I’ve said this that our fans wanted Kreider to be a superstar and anything less than that was a disappointment in their eyes which I found silly. I mean he was picked 19th overall and has been a top 6 player for many years, good playoff performer, and is the unofficial captain. That’s pretty damn good
You can either be mad he’s not a 40 goal scorer or you can be realistic and appreciate the player that he is. The Rangers have no one else like him on the roster or in the system and on most nights neither does the opposing team. He was drafted out of high school for gods sake. Thankfully they didn’t trade him for Frederic last season like people here were suggesting.
. I agree. I also hate when people accuse him of being “lazy or taking nights off”. He is streaky like most players
The only players who never take nights off in a long season are generational players like Crosby, etc. It's an unfair criticism of Kreider, I think.
And yet his stat line ends up pretty much the same every year. I'd love to see him finally score 30 in a shortened season. People's heads will explode.
. If you go back the last few seasons he tends to get hurt everytime he approaches 30 goals. I think 2 or 3 times he had 28 goals then got hurt. Last year he was on his way to 39 then got hurt and the pandemic hit. So he had had some bad luck
But in the end, he plays to the numbers on the back of his trading cards.
Pretty much. Which is fine by me.
Idk if everyone watched his post-game presser but he pretty much admitted that the team has been over-focused on being tight defensively to start the season and that it really hindered their offense. Confirms my suspicions from a few weeks back.
But now they're slacking defensively. They need to find a balance.
Fun fact: When looking at goal pace for Kreider over the past 5 seasons, he has scored at 30 goal per 82 game clip. Maybe this is the year he actually posts the number 30.
The difference between this year and last is that Mika is slicing his one timers hard. He had an empty net the other night short side and ended up putting it 3 feet wide on the other side. Him being ineffective on the pp has basically killed it.
Yeah last year the PP/Panarin + Zib were really carrying us while the PK sucked. This year it's opposite.
2021- D has 44 points out of 178 24.7%
2020- D has 183 out of 635 for 28.8%
While Fox is producing he doesn't attribute for Fox + DeAngelo and Trouba hasn't contributed much either.
It was winter 2019 and Kreider was in the midst of a great season. All of a sudden he stopped scoring. Like, completely.
And I was like "guys, he's hurt. I don't know what's wrong with him but something not right." And you were like "Machinehead you're just a crazy conspiracy theorist and you don't even watch our games!"
Then this came out: Chris Kreider Has Been Playing With A Legitimate Injury
And I was like "yeah, f*** you guys, I know what I'm talking about!" and then I remembered Kreider is hurt that's not a good thing. It was worse than I thought.
From the beginning of 15-16 through til the end of 18-19, Kreider posted these underlying numbers:
5.98 CF% rel
7.21 xGF% rel
That's as good as it gets. He was a count-them-on-your-fingers best play-driver in the NHL. That's why people liked him and wanted to bring him back.
Since the date that article was posted, 3/19/19:
1.84 CF% rel
-1.82 xGF% rel
To this day, I can't pinpoint the injury, I don't know what happened, I don't exactly when I started noticing it, but something was wrong with him. And he's never been the same.
Good news, we will not have to live through the remaining 6 years of Chris Staalardi's contract.
Bad news, We're going to have to sit through at least 4 years of it before he's bought out.
Here's something I'm now wondering: why the f*** was Kreider playing hurt for months in a season where we had no shot at the playoffs at all and Rangers fans were actively rooting against the Rangers? This was the season where Namestnikov scored a late tying goal and this board wanted to burn him in effigy. Like, we were BAD and everyone knew it.
Either Quinn knew about it and said "we'll let him aggravate this so we win 32 games instead of 29" or he didn't notice it when I did.
That's a really interesting insight. Maybe he's still dealing with the injury.
Whether true or not though, it's obvious that the Zibanejad-Kreider combo has lost it's magic. Kreider's got great results away from Zibanejad this season. Last season in limited time, his best lines were with Chytil as his center. And the year prior, likewise, it was when he played with Hayes.
I don't think Kreider's washed yet. I do think it's asinine to staple him to Zibanejad "because". Just like I think it's equally dumb to marry Strome and Panarin especially after Strome has shown himself a capable top-6 talent away from #10.
I really hope it's just that the combo doesn't work anymore, which I could see.
That would mean we don't have an absolute corpse for the next six years.
Then again, KZB hasn't been great since early in that 18-19 season, so either way, Quinn is a moron.
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