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- Mar 21, 2007
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Anyone thinking Brandon baddock have a chance to be a 4 line dirty checking center. He seems to be very popular by whl standards and he supposed to be a wrecking ball that can shut oppositions scoring line down.
Does he get a contract or is he to slow for the way Hynes/kowalsky wants to play. I like he's game and think he could really help lots of the young guys coming to the AHL the next couple of years.
I don't think he has a chance to be a NHL player aside from a random call up for a game to drop the gloves.
He is wayyyy too slow for the NHL and not enough skill or tangibles.
Can he make Albany next Fall?
Possibly, but he would have to supplant a popular veteran like P3L.
And while Baddock is probably more skilled than Pierre, Leblond is a much better skater and he brings a fatherly figure presence to the locker room.
He's been the perfect watchdog on & off the ice for the young Albany players this season.
Anyone thinking Brandon baddock have a chance to be a 4 line dirty checking center. He seems to be very popular by whl standards and he supposed to be a wrecking ball that can shut oppositions scoring line down.
Does he get a contract or is he to slow for the way Hynes/kowalsky wants to play. I like he's game and think he could really help lots of the young guys coming to the AHL the next couple of years.
PAVEL ZACHA
- DY: 42% chance of success
- DY-DY+1: 60% Chance of success
- Most likely level reached: Unknown (equal distribution of cohorts across 5 tiers [elite, 1st line, 2nd line, 3rd, 4th]
- Closest Player comps: Ryan Getzlaf (-1inch, =NHLE), Jordan Caron (-1 inch, -1NHLE) Radek Smolenik (-1inch, -1 NHLE)
So there's this website called the Projection Project. It basically compiles all the tangible stats and information for a player (draft pick, height, weight, scoring, etc.) and compares it on a database with other players and historical picks. It's a really raw way of looking at players, but it's really interesting and it's purely a statistical look and not an eye-test.
The creator of the site made a post in the Prospects board about it and ran some tests on request. Zacha's came out to this
I know I'm probably throwing a live grenade into the hype, but Zacha's numbers during his draft-eligible and draft year+1 seasons have been pretty similar to Getzlaf's. There's still a risk in his development, but an 18% jump in chance of success is great because that's just from a statistical sense and not including the eye-test.
You can look at the whole website and look players and prospects up here:
http://www.theprojectionproject.com/
fun site to browse. i like the look of blake speers though they project santini and coleman to bust by a large percentage...
Just curious, why do they project Santini to bust? Is the system based on points? Because that would seem awfully misguiding for a defensive defenseman like Santini
Just curious, why do they project Santini to bust? Is the system based on points? Because that would seem awfully misguiding for a defensive defenseman like Santini
It's definitely not a great tool to evaluate defensive defensemen.
However, an important point to note is that a lot of defensive defenseman in the NHL were actually good scorers in juniors/college (off the top of my head - Karl Alzner, Willie Mitchell, Robyn Regehr, Chris Phillips, Jason Smith, etc.).
Players who are drafted as pure defensive defenseman from juniors/college have a higher bust rate than one might think. Same goes for forwards. Scoring points in juniors/college reveals basic skating, passing, and hockey sense skills that are important for succeeding in the NHL, even if the player doesn't end up as a scorer in the NHL.
The upshot with Santini is that he probably does have some untapped offensive skill that hasn't been revealed because he doesn't get powerplay time. Powerplay time is a huge determinant of points for defenseman, since they rely so much on secondary assists to accrue points.
I've made these comparisons numerous times, but BC's history provides some great comps for Santini: Brooks Orpik, Rob Scuderi and Nick Petrecki. They all profiled as similar defenseman and basically represent the spectrum of success to failure for Santini.
No doubt about it, I agree with you. Guys who struggle to put up much of anything in juniors/college and rely solely on their defensive play are probably less likely to translate to the NHL. But the leading defenseman on BC only had 7 more points than Santini, and like you said Santini doesn't play on the powerplay and he isn't exactly touted to be that offensive force anyway.
It's his ruggedness and style of play that I'm excited about, and something we sorely lack. That's why I like when Hulk is in the lineup because he can bring a bit of that, he just isn't that good at other parts of the game whereas Santini is more promising in those aspects. But that kind of stuff doesn't show on the scoresheet and maybe it's a bit overvalued at times but it's still something we need to add.
The Greyhounds radio guys just interviewed Zacha between the periods. They asked him what his favorite memory from his Sarnia career has been so far, and he mentioned when they beat Eerie in the first game of their playoff series last year as his high point. Talked a lot about team concept and winning as a group.
Every time I've heard him talk I've been real impressed by how upbeat and goal-oriented he is. No points for him yet tonight, but he's been skating real well. Game is tied at 1 going into the second.
Konecny injured?
Konecny injured?