Value of: Chiarot

[RationalExpectations]

With Edmunson and Weber we already have two big bodies and I would prefer a faster skater next to Weber.

Chiarot is a 4/5D, able to eat big minutes if your 1/2 LHD is injured but in no way a long term solution for your first line. Could be good next to a 2nd line pick moving RHD as a defensive shutdown Dman.

AAV is 3.5 for 1 more year after this one. What do you think his value is ? I would say something around Green value as a floor (2nd rounder) but in this context maybe his value is even less ? I hear Montour stock has been falling, would Montour for Chiarot work for either team ?

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[Richard88]

Not surprised to see this idea floated so soon after Bergevin overloaded the team with the same type of big immobile Dmen by acquiring Edmundson. Might work out well for them in the playoffs though.

 

[david999]

Not surprised to see this idea floated so soon after Bergevin overloaded the team with the same type of big immobile Dmen by acquiring Edmundson. Might work out well for them in the playoffs though.

if they make the playoffs

 

[Kaen]

if they make the playoffs

The Canucks and Senators are brutal and the Flames are really underachieving. I'd say they have a good shot.

 

[RationalExpectations]

if they make the playoffs

and if they don t what would you give up for him ?

 

[jetsv2]

If Montreal could eat some of his cap, I'd like to see him back with the Jets. The only way that works is if Montreal can retain some salary though, as the Jets don't have the cap rom to take on 3.5 million this year.

 

[Hunter368]

If Montreal could eat some of his cap, I'd like to see him back with the Jets. The only way that works is if Montreal can retain some salary though, as the Jets don't have the cap rom to take on 3.5 million this year.

I wouldn't want him back, we let him walk bc he wanted too much money for a #5D......he's still a #5D with 1.5 years on that deal. He's arguably no better then Forbort and he's much more expensive. Only part I miss about Chariot is his physical play.......literally nothing else.

 

[RationalExpectations]

If Montreal could eat some of his cap, I'd like to see him back with the Jets. The only way that works is if Montreal can retain some salary though, as the Jets don't have the cap rom to take on 3.5 million this year.

I think they do since Little is on LTIR, right ?

 

[PettersonHughes]

What are Montreal's team needs? (Vancouver would need to trade some cap too in order to fit his salary).
I'd be intrigued if he plays a tight game in his own end, to hold things down beside Quinn Hughes.

 

[RationalExpectations]

What are Montreal's team needs? (Vancouver would need to trade some cap too in order to fit his salary).
I'd be intrigued if he plays a tight game in his own end, to hold things down beside Quinn Hughes.

The issue is that he is Left handed so I am not sure if he would be a fit in VAN, which is stacked with LHDs. I think due to Ferland being on LTIR, there is no cap issue in VAN. The thing I wonder is what kind of pick would be involved, I was thinking a bit more than the Green package (2nd) but of course not a first, but I wonder if there would be a large discount due to the flat cap.

 

[glenbuis]

The issue is that he is Left handed so I am not sure if he would be a fit in VAN, which is stacked with LHDs. I think due to Ferland being on LTIR, there is no cap issue in VAN. The thing I wonder is what kind of pick would be involved, I was thinking a bit more than the Green package (2nd) but of course not a first, but I wonder if there would be a large discount due to the flat cap.

Now if Vancouver has something that Nashville would like a bit of a three way could be arranged . I honestly don’t know what but Montreal would give Nashville a first and second plus something from Vancouver. Chariot to Vancouver . Ekholm to Montreal .

 

[RationalExpectations]

Now if Vancouver has something that Nashville would like a bit of a three way could be arranged . I honestly don’t know what but Montreal would give Nashville a first and second plus something from Vancouver. Chariot to Vancouver . Ekholm to Montreal .

The issue is that NSH fans want a lot for Ekholm and I don't think that MTL is so close to contention that I'd be willing to pay 1st + Guhle as they seem to want (even 1st +Guhle + for some of them)

 

[glenbuis]

The issue is that NSH fans want a lot for Ekholm and I don't think that MTL is so close to contention that I'd be willing to pay 1st + Guhle as they seem to want (even 1st +Guhle + for some of them)

I’m not considering guhle . Bergevin won’t go there . Still doesn’t mean we couldn’t get there attention with a first second ++ . Bergevin is unlikely to go there as well because he never robs from the future for today . In this case though Ekholm can be moved next year for a 1st + if he is not resigned so I don’t see huge risks involved compared to the immediate benefits .

 

[glenbuis]

I wouldn't want him back, we let him walk bc he wanted too much money for a #5D......he's still a #5D with 1.5 years on that deal. He's arguably no better then Forbort and he's much more expensive. Only part I miss about Chariot is his physical play.......literally nothing else.

That physical play from a 4/5 defenseman that can play shouldn’t be regarded so lightly . There definitely not free and at 3.5 for the minutes he can handle he’s not overpriced . Let’s not pretend he’s worthless now .

 

[Scintillating10]

With Edmunson and Weber we already have two big bodies and I would prefer a faster skater next to Weber.

Chiarot is a 4/5D, able to eat big minutes if your 1/2 LHD is injured but in no way a long term solution for your first line. Could be good next to a 2nd line pick moving RHD as a defensive shutdown Dman.

AAV is 3.5 for 1 more year after this one. What do you think his value is ? I would say something around Green value as a floor (2nd rounder) but in this context maybe his value is even less ? I hear Montour stock has been falling, would Montour for Chiarot work for either team ?

We got a 2nd last year for Scandella. But maybe a late first for Chiarot. Where he is not a rental

 

[HOPE]

We got a 2nd last year for Scandella. But maybe a late first for Chiarot. Where he is not a rental

We won’t get high value the season before the expansion draft, not for a guy like Chiarot

 

[MXD]

That physical play from a 4/5 defenseman that can play shouldn’t be regarded so lightly . There definitely not free and at 3.5 for the minutes he can handle he’s not overpriced . Let’s not pretend he’s worthless now .

He's not worthless.
It's just that the minutes he's getting with Weber, and those he'll get should he play with Petry, are a little too much for him on a permanent basis.

 

[glenbuis]

He's not worthless.
It's just that the minutes he's getting with Weber, and those he'll get should he play with Petry, are a little too much for him on a permanent basis.

This is reasonable. I’d go for ekholm to replace chariot with Weber and have chariot anchor the 3rd pair . He can step up to in case of injuries

 

[Hunter368]

That physical play from a 4/5 defenseman that can play shouldn’t be regarded so lightly . There definitely not free and at 3.5 for the minutes he can handle he’s not overpriced . Let’s not pretend he’s worthless now .

No point in my post did I say he's worthless.......I said the extra phyiscal play he brings over Forbort isn't worth the difference in cap hits.

 

[Habs10025]

With Edmunson and Weber we already have two big bodies and I would prefer a faster skater next to Weber.

Chiarot is a 4/5D, able to eat big minutes if your 1/2 LHD is injured but in no way a long term solution for your first line. Could be good next to a 2nd line pick moving RHD as a defensive shutdown Dman.

AAV is 3.5 for 1 more year after this one. What do you think his value is ? I would say something around Green value as a floor (2nd rounder) but in this context maybe his value is even less ? I hear Montour stock has been falling, would Montour for Chiarot work for either team ?

Chiarot isn't available .

 

[Boondock]

He's not worthless.
It's just that the minutes he's getting with Weber, and those he'll get should he play with Petry, are a little too much for him on a permanent basis.

Who has been the better player Chariot or Edmundson? Both seem to be similar.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Who has been the better player Chariot or Edmundson? Both seem to be similar.

I think Ed has been better. At least his pairing with Petry has been better.

 

[RationalExpectations]

I think Ed has been better. At least his pairing with Petry has been better.

I think they are better because they complement each other, while Chiarot and Weber do not.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Chiarot isn't available .

Chiarot is not what the Habs need next to Weber. Look at last year AND this year.

 

[Habs10025]

Chiarot is not what the Habs need next to Weber. Look at last year AND this year.

Montreal aren't trading Chiarot.