Speculation: Chiarelli compensation
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There is no way the difference between Chiarelli's contract in Boston and his new deal in Edmonton is in the 2-3 million range
NHL GM's just don't make that much. My guess is his compensation in Boston was probably in the 2-2.5 million range annually, assuming he got a solid raise recently.
I can't imagine Edmonton is paying him more than 500K less per year
NHL GM's just don't make that much. My guess is his compensation in Boston was probably in the 2-2.5 million range annually, assuming he got a solid raise recently.
I can't imagine Edmonton is paying him more than 500K less per year
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Two slightly separate questions:
1. Why are we getting compensation since we fired Chiarelli?
2. Why was there no compensation for Benning? Or did we just not choose to?
1. Why are we getting compensation since we fired Chiarelli?
2. Why was there no compensation for Benning? Or did we just not choose to?
1) you are entitled to compensation even for a fired manager. As long as he is being paid by your team, compensation comes into play.
2) compensation only start this year.
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I'm still not clear on the compensation. Maybe you can clarify it for me. If Edmonton has to give Boston a second round pick, when does it have to inform the Bruins? As I understand it, the pick can be in either 2015, 2016 or 2017. It appears that the 2017 pick would be better for the Oilers, whereas the Bruins would prefer this year's pick. Is there a timetable for resolving this?
I know Gorton (or Sweeney) can waive the pick and make another transaction. Just don't know how the pick selection works.
DominicT
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There is no other transaction allowed. It's either the Bruins accept the pick or waive it. The discussion is between Nicholson and Neely.
And there is no timetable. If the Bruins want the pick, the Oilers decide in which of the 3 years the Bruins get the pick.
Dennis Bonvie
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The Bruins still have Chiarelli under a paid contract, even if they are not utilizing his services. Therefore, they are entitled to compensation. That is the theory, anyway.
Because managers and coaches have guarenteed contracts (just like the players) technically Peter Chiarelli was still under contract with the Boston Bruins. Being fired really means they are removing him from his position as GM and replacing him with someone but they cannot terminate his contract meaning that technically he is still under contract with Bruins.
Dennis Bonvie
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That seems logical.
Still odd that a team fires a guy they just recently extended and gets a reward for their own incompetence.
DominicT
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They could have just said "you're under contract for 3 more years and we won't allow other teams to talk to you."
If other teams want you, they are going to have to pay the price. Because he was under contract, they could have prevented him from joining any of their competitors.
Technically, Chiarelli wasn't fired, he was relieved only of his GM duties. He was never relieved of his vice president duties that I can find anywhere where Neely or Jacobs say so.
norwoodmustang
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I seem to remember reading somewhere that Dave Lewis did some scouting for Boston in Julien's first year. Just like Chiarelli was going to discuss a position within the organization for Mac when he got the Edmonton job. You're paying them unless they are hired elsewhere, so you can use them in other positions if you want or let them sit at home and collect their money. Since you own their rights, you get compensation.
So, theoretically, Edmonton can do nothing and wait until after the 2016 draft to inform Boston that it will award the pick in 2017.
DominicT
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Seems to be a question, even among the "experts" as to when the Oilers have to notify the Bruins (assuming the Bruins don't waive). Some believe it can be anytime before the draft for that year, some say it has to be settled now.
If I'm the Bruins based on my own draft projections I want 2015, 2017, 2016 in that order.
Problem with that however is the Oilers can only go up which means 2017 will be a worse pick (positionally) than 2016. But in terms of depth, I prefer 2017 over 2016, I highly doubt it will be 2015.
Could the oilers settle on the pick and trade a roster player back for the pick? So before the draft they give the bruins said pick and the Bruins trade it back for a player?
DominicT
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Again, seems to be some confusion as to whether that would be allowed. I'm beginning to have the feeling that the NHL hasn't even completely finished writing the "rules" on this.
But I'd venture to guess no that wouldn't be allowed. The Bruins would be allowed to trade that pick to anyone but the Oilers.
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NinthSpoke06
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Wow, Edmonton fans are all bullhurt about this.
Yes the rule is dumb, but why the hell wouldn't we take advantage of it? It's a free 2nd round pick? Especially considering the situation Chiarelli left us in.
Good, grab that pick and run.
Yes the rule is dumb, but why the hell wouldn't we take advantage of it? It's a free 2nd round pick? Especially considering the situation Chiarelli left us in.
Good, grab that pick and run.
