News Article: Cherry fired by sportsnet

[pcruz]

Canada had it's confederation in 1867 but remained part of the British Empire until 1931. The history books covered it and more!

And no, I don't expect Canada to commemorate the soldiers from all allied countries (although we do often recognize the british and others), but if your argument is that immigrants are a bunch of ingrates who did nothing to build Canada - as Don did - then you would be factually wrong. Most immigrants, from most countries, had a hand in our winning both World Wars so Don trying to paint them as ingrates is ridiculous.

Sweet Jesus.

These kinds of opinions illustrate the fact that some people are arguing in bad faith.

 

[Stamkos4life]

Glad he didn't apologize. He said nothing wrong this time around.

Not many people stick to their guns these days. Makes me respect Don even more.

 

[thewave]

Yes, "you people that come here" are people from everywhere else in the world, that live in the smaller towns in the GTA (He references Mississauga, etc in a separate quote). That's the issue. How on earth does Don know what these people from everywhere else in the world look like? How does he know these aren't all 3rd-generation Canadians?

He could've avoided this by saying 'All Canadians need to buy a poppy". Don's message was right, his subtle racism was not.

It's not his fault I guess, he's been used to that way of life forever and failed to adjust. Congrats on Don for the long career but at 85 years old, he's been long overdue to step down.

It just wasn't a bad thing and certainly not worth being fired for. What I worry about most is history repeating itself and you wake up some morning and a bunch of ethnic groups aren't slaughtering each other in the streets or some crusade. I like the law, not unjust persecution. You know how many centuries Western Civ waged war for until we settled down? I just want to live in peace and have equal opportunity.

 

[Stamkos4life]

He presented himself as a champion for all Canadians. He was tolerated as long as he was railing against foreign hockey players and their playing styles.

He dug his own grave when he attacked his fellow countrymen just because they either had a different upbringing than him or looked like those that had a different upbringing than him. I’m no Cherry hater. This is the first time I couldn’t defend him, and for good reason.

"I'm no cherry hater."

*goes off the deep end, getting multiple posts banned.*

Yeah, you're not fooling anyone bud.

 

[WillNy29]

Politicalness aside, was Don Cherry incorrect?

Are immigrants less likely to wear a poppy?

no i dont think he was; take it from someone who's parents are immigrants from Punjab, we very well know the sacrifices in WWI and WWII to ensure freedom. we were taught from a young age that not only did the Canadians fight but so did the soldiers from northwestern india along side the Canadians as brothers in arms.
This goes for a lot of immigrants people forget that north and east Africa, all of Asia Pacific and the middle east were also major theatres of WWII us immigrants damn well know and respect the sacrifices that were made.

 

[Erdinger]

Perhaps Cherry was looking for a way out like those old senile judges that every now and then say that rape victims were asking for it because of the way they were dressed. Not equating the 2 but at some point I guess you get so old you just want to go out with a bang

 

[LeafingTheWay]

It just wasn't a bad thing and certainly not worth being fired for. What I worry about most is history repeating itself and you wake up some morning and a bunch of ethnic groups aren't slaughtering each other in the streets or some crusade. I like the law, not unjust persecution. You know how many centuries Western Civ waged war for until we settled down? I just want to live in peace and have equal opportunity.

I agree, I don't think it was bad enough to be fired for.

But it's everything added up to this point, I think this was the final straw. He's done worse than this, which is why people are surprised he was fired for this.

 

[93LEAFS]

I hate to see his career end like this, but he was a ticking time-bomb in the current-era of political correctness. You simply can't say what he said based off of anecdotal evidence, and even if you could prove it statistically, you have to be much more careful in how you phrase it. I wish he got a proper send-off, but, I'm not shocked he finally said something that got him taken off the air.

 

[WillNy29]

Outrage/cancel culture claims another victim. This time one of the most influential and iconic Canadians of his generation.

I don’t agree with many of his takes over the past decade, but to treat one of the most iconic Canadians of all time like this over an outraged vocal minority is ridiculous.

When did it become a crime to be a nationalist? A patriot? That’s all Don was ever guilty of being.

unchecked nationalism leads to fascism

 

[Erdinger]

This is what Coach's Corner really was about. Once he got into his non hockey crap he lost me

 

[WillNy29]

He was correct and no one should be afraid to confirm it. There's no scientific way to prove it, but a simple eye test is all you need.

so who do you deem the immigrant? is their skin colour brown? how does this eye test work when it comes to "you people who come here"??

 

[Erdinger]

so who do you deem the immigrant? is their skin colour brown? how does this eye test work when it comes to "you people who come here"??

He's given his own explanation on 1010 this evening. No need for conjecture of posters.

 

[Erdinger]

unchecked nationalism leads to fascism

This thread has almost reached the point of Godwin's Law

 

[WillNy29]

He's given his own explanation on 1010 this evening. No need for conjecture of posters.

so hes only sorry he got caught essentially?

You cant say you people come here, followed up with the milk and honey and have our way of life line and then wonder why people would "misconstrue" it as something xenophobic. As a visible minority who's had to deal with this shit my whole life it does become tiresome.

 

[Dave92]

unchecked nationalism leads to fascism

Socialism and communism are just as close to fascism as nationalism. Fascism is just a racist government.

 

[WillNy29]

This thread has almost reached the point of Godwin's Law

where did i mention nazis or hitler?

 

[WillNy29]

Socialism and communism are just as close to fascism as nationalism. Fascism is just a racist government.

im not a communist either i grew up on reading books like animal farm, but you cant just blindly be nationalist thats how you forgive your country for multiple attrocities rather than reconcile them.

 

[Erdinger]

so hes only sorry he got caught essentially?

You cant say you people come here, followed up with the milk and honey and have our way of life line and then wonder why people would "misconstrue" it as something xenophobic. As a visible minority who's had to deal with this **** my whole life it does become tiresome.

As an immigrant to this country a lot of things have become very tiresome in the last decade. I'm seriously thinking of getting out

 

[Erdinger]

where did i mention nazis or hitler?

You didn't so you haven't taken it right there. Fascism is a step there though

 

[WillNy29]

You didn't so you haven't taken it right there. Fascism is a step there though

couldve easily been talking about franco or mussolini

 

[Erdinger]

couldve easily been talking about franco or mussolini

Good people

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

I don't know about you, but I'm not Native.
In fact, I was born in Europe and came here as a kid.

I believe that just about everyone in this country is either an immigrant, or descended from immigrants within a few generations.
Maybe he was talking to everyone?

He wasn't talking to everyone. We all know that.

He wasn't talking to immigrants from the UK/Ireland even new ones.

And you are right, everyone living in Canada are either immigrants, descendants of immigrants, or natives.

Everyone who fought for Canada in WWI and WWII were immigrants at some point, unless they were native.

And so we all know who Cherry was directing his rant at.

I was listening to Tim and Sid on the radio tonight, they were taking calls, responding to tweets etc.

They also divulged that Don insisted on saying "you people" while his producer/director was asking him to say "we people".

He chose to die on his own sword and good for him, but this is the consequence.

I do NOT respect his way of thinking about new immigrants to this country, it's ignorant to make sweeping opinions of entire populations of people. But he's free to do that, and this is what happens today when you speak like that.

He rants about this stuff like our way of life is under threat and people are going to forget about what happened in the past. And he might be right if we're talking about children and their education, but saying that to anyone who is newly living in Canada is really nasty, narrow minded thinking IMO.

 

[Hustlr]

Can’t wait to watch intermission 1 on Saturdays again!! Woo!

 

[Erdinger]

Anyone claiming that there will ever be a fascist takeover of Canada is seriously screwed up. I'm sure most people who defend Cherry are nowhere near being fascists just maybe pushing back against the leftist version which is just as repugnant

 

[Dave92]

im not a communist either i grew up on reading books like animal farm, but you cant just blindly be nationalist thats how you forgive your country for multiple attrocities rather than reconcile them.

That's true but it's a bit of an extreme comparison for what was actually said by Don, his HNIC rants aren't Mein Kampf.