Confirmed Signing with Link: [CGY] G Dan Vladar signs extension with the Flames (2 years, $2.2M AAV)

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[Namikaze Minato]

Perfect contract for him, nice little raise and brings him to UFA as a 28 year old. Should time up well for the Flames goalie prospects as well.

 

[DJJones]

Wow, didn't see this coming. Likely ends up being flipped for a solid return.

 

[thefutures]

Wow, didn't see this coming. Likely ends up being flipped for a solid return.

Do you think he is traded this year?

 

[Bond]

Wow, didn't see this coming. Likely ends up being flipped for a solid return.

No way will they trust Dustin Wolf with back up duties. I think Treliving locked in the tandem we will see for the next three years

 

[DJJones]

No way will they trust Dustin Wolf with back up duties. I think Treliving locked in the tandem we will see for the next three years

Why would they not trust Wolf? Probably be looking to get into the league next year, at most the year after that, probably our best prospect.

 

[madmike77]

I didn’t think Wolf looked great in preseason. It’s only preseason I know, but he’s young and likely not ready for the step up to the NHL yet.

This is great for both Vladar and the Flames. He’s a very solid backup and he should get more playing time this season.

 

[HighLifeMan]

No way will they trust Dustin Wolf with back up duties. I think Treliving locked in the tandem we will see for the next three years

They could easily trust Wolf in backup duties - the problem is he would then become one injury away from being the starter during a window we are pushing all in for a cup run. Depth at the goaltending position is critical and this organization believes in all three goalies. This is a fantastic move. Long term that is still Wolf's net to win over.

 

[Mobiandi]

Wolf is still at least a year away so would be poor to lose Vladar to free agency. Good to keep the options open for a possible Markstrom trade too.

Vladar deserves more responsibility. Happy with this

 

[Zirakzigil]

Happy for Vlad, hes been great for the Flames.

 

[Bond]

Why would they not trust Wolf? Probably be looking to get into the league next year, at most the year after that, probably our best prospect.

Markstrom gets injured and then who is behind Wolf? If the Flames were in are rebuild then sure. In two years it could be a Vladar and Wolf duo

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Bruins had a little goalie farm going on.
Think they picked right with Swayman, but Darth Vladar is pretty solid

 

[BRobMint]

Not too long ago, the Flames struggled to find consistent goaltending following Kipper’s retirement. Now we have two solid goalies on the big club and a promising goalie down in the A. It honestly feels good.

 

[seafoam]

Nice deal for an above average backup.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Lol the day after I dropped him from my deep fantasy team.. Congretz I guess heheh.

 

[Fig]

Totally left field, but a really nice surprise.

 

[Some Other Flame]

Wasn't expecting this. It does open speculation that it'll be Markstrom that's moved because Wolf ain't far off from at a backup role in the NHL. Unless he's the one being moved, which would be kind of dumb.

Lots of teams in the east could use a Markstrom - Leafs, Devils, Senators, etc.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Wasn't expecting this. It does open speculation that it'll be Markstrom that's moved because Wolf ain't far off from at a backup role in the NHL. Unless he's the one being moved, which would be kind of dumb.

Lots of teams in the east could use a Markstrom - Leafs, Devils, Senators, etc.

It doesn't open up any speculation at all that Markstrom will be moved as long as the plan is to keep Lindholm in Calgary. If anything it makes Vladar a stronger trade piece because if he has a great year but he cap doesnt jump Calgary may need to move him for space and now he is on a team friendly deal for a team trying to find a potential young starter moving forward

 

[Some Other Flame]

It doesn't open up any speculation at all that Markstrom will be moved as long as the plan is to keep Lindholm in Calgary. If anything it makes Vladar a stronger trade piece because if he has a great year but he cap doesnt jump Calgary may need to move him for space and now he is on a team friendly deal for a team trying to find a potential young starter moving forward

I suspect Lindholm is enough of an adult to sign an extension with Calgary regardless of what happens with Markstrom.

But it would be prototypical Flames with their consistent inability to understand how the cap works to trade the younger, cheaper, possibly better player just to the keep the older, more expensive, soon to be in declining veteran.

 

[DJJones]

Markstrom gets injured and then who is behind Wolf? If the Flames were in are rebuild then sure. In two years it could be a Vladar and Wolf duo

If they think Wolf is better than Vladar why do you need someone behind him? Who cares about the 3rd goalie. If you're on your third goalie you aren't winning the SC.

Lol the day after I dropped him from my deep fantasy team.. Congretz I guess heheh.

How does this effect that decision?

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

If they think Wolf is better than Vladar why do you need someone behind him? Who cares about the 3rd goalie. If you're on your third goalie you aren't winning the SC.



How does this effect that decision?

Clearly the Flames brass didn't like the fallout of my decision to drop him so they decided to reward him to spite my decision.

 

[DJJones]

nm

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

I suspect Lindholm is enough of an adult to sign an extension with Calgary regardless of what happens with Markstrom.

But it would be prototypical Flames with their consistent inability to understand how the cap works to trade the younger, cheaper, possibly better player just to the keep the older, more expensive, soon to be in declining veteran.

2 bad takes in 1 post, impressive.

It's not about "being an adult." Unlike Dubois who basically tantrum'd his way out of Columbus Lindholm will simply be hitting free agency. If they trade his best friend in a similar way to Vegas forced Fleury out of town (because that's the only way you can force someone with a full NMC out) then it has a trickle down effect. Logically that would be pretty BM towards Lindholm too. He will simply view the organization in bad faith and look elsewhere.

Vladar is younger and cheaper than Markstrom but to say he's better is just silly. Markstrom is a starting goalie that plays a substantial amount of games a season in comparison to Vladar who is pretty much always fresh and rested when he comes in. I prime example of this is Jonathan Quick and Jack Campbell Despite Campbell putting up better a better SV% the years they played together Quick was still the starting goalie. Eventually Campbell was traded and was given a shot at a starting goalie role last year. To start the season he had excellent numbers but after the ~30 game mark he started to fall off quite a bit.

 

[Rubi]

I wonder what AHL All Star and AHL Goalie of the Year Dustin Wolf thinks about the extension.

 

[Some Other Flame]

2 bad takes in 1 post, impressive.

It's not about "being an adult." Unlike Dubois who basically tantrum'd his way out of Columbus Lindholm will simply be hitting free agency. If they trade his best friend in a similar way to Vegas forced Fleury out of town (because that's the only way you can force someone with a full NMC out) then it has a trickle down effect. Logically that would be pretty BM towards Lindholm too. He will simply view the organization in bad faith and look elsewhere.

Vladar is younger and cheaper than Markstrom but to say he's better is just silly. Markstrom is a starting goalie that plays a substantial amount of games a season in comparison to Vladar who is pretty much always fresh and rested when he comes in. I prime example of this is Jonathan Quick and Jack Campbell Despite Campbell putting up better a better SV% the years they played together Quick was still the starting goalie. Eventually Campbell was traded and was given a shot at a starting goalie role last year. To start the season he had excellent numbers but after the ~30 game mark he started to fall off quite a bit.

Quite a leap to think that's the only way to move Markstrom. He could just you know, agree. But the fearmongering about needing to placate Lindholm's feelings is a bit much. I should think he understands how the NHL works. He did after all manage to sign with Calgary without his best friend on the team, I'm sure he could do it again.

I said possibly better as in, in the summer when they might start exploring a move depending on how the year goes. Didn't think it needed to be fully explained since it's blatantly obvious. But fine - in a scenario where Markstrom continues to perform like playoff Markstrom against the Oilers while Vlader continues to improve, the only logical move is to move the former while keeping the latter. If such a scenario does not happen, then likely the status quo remains where no one is moved.