Snowpants
In Depth Hockey Analyst
- Apr 20, 2019
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You didn't get rid of Lucic's cap hit though, so clearly the consensus was correct
More spin than a new washer HF just take the L will you???
You didn't get rid of Lucic's cap hit though, so clearly the consensus was correct
I mean if you want to go back through those threads you'll see numerous posters claiming Edmonton would need to add a 1st or Puljujarvi+ to swap Lucic for any of Eriksson, Neal, etc. Everyone continued to cite his NMC and the expansion draft as why no team would make the swap without Edmonton giving up massive amounts of assets.
Neals puck handling is not better than Lucic's at this point though.Speed wasn't the reason Lucic couldn't fit with McDavid. It had everything to do with his mediocre shot, and poor puck handling skills. For example, Maroon did great with McDavid because he has a decent shot, soft hands, and protects pucks well. Maroon is probably a worse skater than both Neal and Lucic.
Absolutely.
Getting rid of Lucic is a win in itself, even though Neal will be no better it gets them out of the NMC situation and isn't buyout proof.
But there's no reason to believe Neal will be any more useful when it comes to on-ice performance
The battle of Alberta has just escalated to dirty bombs. This is a truck load of mattresses from a leper colony in exchange for 10 cases of bottled Mexican tap water.
Correct? Where’s the proof?You didn't get rid of Lucic's cap hit though, so clearly the consensus was correct
Have full details been released yet?
Have full details been released yet?
I have to apologize to Oilers fans. I said for weeks Lucic is untradeable and our dumb GM proved me wrong.
This truly is the darkest timeline to be a Flames fan.
One year removed from an All-Star season is definitely reason to believe he can do better.
Maybe not but to act like it's an impossibility is silly. Dude has played with guys like Malkin before, he'll be able to read off McDavid and get plenty of oppurtunities plus first unit PP time.
There's no one on the Oilers PP that shoots the damn puck, lol, it's McDavid and Draisaitl passing back and forth to each other for like 30 seconds at a time.
Shoot first player has a better chance of doing well given the Oilers make up (3 pass first centers).
Some players just don't fit on certain teams.
Hits and fights matter when the person I am debating specifically stated Lucic dont hit and fight no more...
Saying Neal has played well with Malkin is just like saying Lucic played well with Krejci. Neither of these guys are who they were 5 years ago. Definitely be thrilled about moving Lucic but don't get too excited about Neal bouncing back
I dunno, as an Oiler fan I'm glad I don't have to watch the following patented Lucic plays anymore:Neals puck handling is not better than Lucic's at this point though.
Getting rid of Lucic's contract is a win for the Oilers but effectively paying Neal 6.35m for the exact same on ice impact isn't something to be proud of
True, but Neal's contract can be bought out while Lucic cannot, and at least he is one season removed from a 20 goal season. At this point Lucic has had 2 abysmal seasons in a row so I doubt he'll bounce back. Neal I'll reserve judgement on until I see him have a 2nd bad season in a row. If he does then you can buy him out or you give up assets to move an easier to move contract.Fair enough. IMO Neal is just as brutal a contract, its just that Lucic and the Oilers are very polarizing on this board.
Nobody really cares enough about the Flames to crap on them about Neal ( no offense).
I dunno, as an Oiler fan I'm glad I don't have to watch the following patented Lucic plays anymore:
1. The "skate into the corner in the offensive zone with the puck trying to protect it and buy time, but have it poked away by a better player"
2. The "receive a pass in the defensive zone along the boards and fumble with the puck trying to accelerate and make a play, leading to a dangerous turnover high in the defensive zone"
3. The "receive a pass in pretty decent shooting position in the offensive zone and cradle the puck trying for a perfect shot, only to have the shot get blocked, miss the net badly, or shoot it into the goalie's crest"
4. The "dump the puck in and try to forecheck but being so slow that by the time he reaches the opposition defender for the hit, the puck is already halfway out of the zone already"
And my personal favourite:
5. The "screw up a offensive or defensive play so badly that he should be embarrassed, so he skates off the ice looking pissed off and mopey"